Haven't DK's received any changes yet?

[Lady Velvet]

what? did i miss something? http://bfa.wowhead.com/spell=48265/deaths-advance

Ops, I mistook the 10 seconds for 10% speed, sorry.

[Blade Wolf]

I really hope they still give us the 5% leech aura that was shown at Blizzcon. Otherwise frost and unholy won't be attractive.

[Deleted]

The new deaths advance is actually extremely powerful. Think Guldan / Mannoroth pushbacks which it will reduce by 80%. Still got wraith walk too.

[Deleted]

I really hope they still give us the 5% leech aura that was shown at Blizzcon. Otherwise frost and unholy won't be attractive.

Couldn't care less if we have 5% leech or not. #deathstrike

[Zorish]

Couldn't care less if we have 5% leech or not. #deathstrike

he said about AURA, not self only buff. So DK would bring buff to raid.

[Khain]

I really hope they still give us the 5% leech aura that was shown at Blizzcon. Otherwise frost and unholy won't be attractive.

That is gone from alpha, they were planing to give every class a unique buff, but they backed down from it. Now there are only 5 raid buffs:
Warrior 10% str/agi
Priest 10% stamina
Mage 10% int
DH 5% magic damage
Monk 5% physical damage

[Deleted]

he said about AURA, not self only buff. So DK would bring buff to raid.

Oh shi-

My bad! Dks have grip though, that'll always be attractive

[Deleted]

That is gone from alpha, they were planing to give every class a unique buff, but they backed down from that. Now there are only 5 raid buffs:
Warrior 10% str/agi
Priest 10% stamina
Mage 10% int
DH 5% magic damage
Monk 5% physical damage

That is so incredibly retarded not even the hacks at blizzard could possibly think its a good idea. please tell me you are joking.

[Zorish]

That is so incredibly retarded not even the hacks at blizzard could possibly think its a good idea. please tell me you are joking.

in current alpha build - he is not.

[msdos]

I can see why they chose to give Demon Hunter's the raid utility. They bring almost zero to a raid in terms of utility. At least we have grips and AMS and can control select undead.

[Angeredsoul]

Not distributing these basic buffs amongst all the classes is literally going against their so called mantra of "Bring the player, not the class".

[Swalload]

I havent had the time to play WoW for a year, but I looked into the talent calculator for DK's in BfA.

Am I blind, or hasn't a single thing changed, at least for frost and unholy?
I don't see any new skills, nor talents.

Are they saving changes for the DK's to last because they are remaking the whole class or something? Didn't they think the remake in Legion was enough?

Overall DK is one of the very few class that actually improved with Legion. So if they have any changes planned it's certainly pretty low on their priority list and it won't be anything major. Blood just got some talent changes that are pretty interesting, maybe that's just the kind of little things frost and unholy will go through, if anything happens.

[Khain]

I can see why they chose to give Demon Hunter's the raid utility. They bring almost zero to a raid in terms of utility. At least we have grips and AMS and can control select undead.

DH has superior mobility and very good soaking capabilities, on top of now being one of the few specs with aoe stun.

[Nnyco]

Not distributing these basic buffs amongst all the classes is literally going against their so called mantra of "Bring the player, not the class".

they also said that they went too far with that at blizzcon and want to bring classes too

[tumbleweed010]

DH has superior mobility and very good soaking capabilities, on top of now being one of the few specs with aoe stun.

DK's have good soaking with AMS/IBF. DH don't have their stun anymore either; it's a disorient. Darkness is terrible utility and that's the only thing DH's really bring.

[Teech]

DK's have good soaking with AMS/IBF. DH don't have their stun anymore either; it's a disorient. Darkness is terrible utility and that's the only thing DH's really bring.

you forget Netherwalk to soak raid mechanics solo. Or did they remove it with BFA?

[Deleted]

I am very worried about Unholy. The spec is going to be very, very boring and slow without Apocalypse, Double Doom and Scourge of Worlds.
And Apocalypse became a massive part of the class fantasy, providing a shorter cooldown burst damage version of Army of the Dead.

[Deleted]

DK's have good soaking with AMS/IBF. DH don't have their stun anymore either; it's a disorient. Darkness is terrible utility and that's the only thing DH's really bring.

In combination with the spirit link totem, darkness is easily the best utility ability any DPS class is able to provide.

[Hoeth]

I am very worried about Unholy. The spec is going to be very, very boring and slow without Apocalypse, Double Doom and Scourge of Worlds.
And Apocalypse became a massive part of the class fantasy, providing a shorter cooldown burst damage version of Army of the Dead.

No reason to be worried, yet. Many specs are utterly neutered without the artifact. They will not go live in BfA in such a state.

[Fatel]

No reason to be worried, yet. Many specs are utterly neutered without the artifact. They will not go live in BfA in such a state.

Yeah trust in Blizz. They have a whole 4 months to figure it out...