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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    I mean, my safety kind of trumps (pardon the phrasing) their right to murder me for my ancestry, so...

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    Treat fascists the same way they treat black people currently.
    and how do u tell who the fascists are ? make the wear an arm band ?

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Masoner View Post
    Most of your confederate statues were put up by the democratic party as a show of "force" against Republicans through out the nation. It's like the "confederate flag" where it wasn't a thing till the dixiecrats used it as a symbol.

    Remember the Gore/Clinton stickers.
    Democratic party has always been the parasite in america, always supporting things that damage this country the most, first slavery, now mass immigration and promotion of amplifying mental illness into all aspects of society.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Being a Nazi is a threat in itself.



    No. Those people should be fired. There needs to be massive police reform in the US. But that is another topic.



    Arrest the Nazis before there even is a march.
    and how do you tell who the nazis are ? because you and others use that label liberally, who's the judge ?

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by Axelhander View Post
    Hate speech is not free speech. Being a nazi is a threat, and in an ideal world, would be a punishable, jailable offense.
    in YOUR ideal world, in my ideal world people are free to believe anything they want so long as they are willing to deal with the social repercussions and they don't actually harm anyone. if i thought they way you did i would be all for banning any number of religious groups because of what they did to my social group in the past.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Daethz View Post
    Democratic party has always been the parasite in america, always supporting things that damage this country the most, first slavery, now mass immigration and promotion of amplifying mental illness into all aspects of society.
    All of those neo-nazis and KKK members are traditional liberals and likely anti-Lincoln too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    and how do you tell who the nazis are ? because you and others use that label liberally, who's the judge ?
    Amusingly the democrats who where once the party of slavery and are now the party of race baiting and socialist policys.
    Are the nazis.
    Does Slavery + Socialism + Massive All Powerful Central Government sound familiar? like the nazi party of germany familiar?

  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Volksverhetzung.
    but wouldn't antifa also be guilty of Volksverhetzung?
    and communists ?

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    Nazi's, despicable as they are, have the same right to hold a rally as everyone else.
    Do terrorists have a right to hold a rally? What about child rapists?

    When the very nature and purpose of an oganization is to cause harm, why should they have a right to rally?

  8. #148
    I say to ignore them and let them have their stupid rallies.

  9. #149
    At the moment in england you can be arrested and convicted for a hate crime for merely posting the song lyrics of a song that contains the N word on social media.

    Im hostile to anyone who wants laws like that in the US and will purposely vote for candidates who will allow us to hate post eachother any time we want, its called Freedom.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Daethz View Post
    Don't you find it amusing that the same people who want to end the electoral college also support allowing voting with no form of identification so its extremely easy for illegal immigrants to vote and other people to vote multiple times under multiple names?
    Because supporting those two things at the same time sounds like criminal intention to me.
    The fuck you are even talking? Voter fraud is nearly non existent in the US. An actual real threat is voter disfranchisement as perpetuated by the Republicans.

    Electoral college and voter identification have nothing to o with each other.

    Of course people need to get identification. But the Republicans try everything in their power to make it as hard as possible. People should be automatically registered to vote and issued identification. Like in Europe.

    All the electoral college does it make the votes of some Americans count more than the votes of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    but wouldn't antifa also be guilty of Volksverhetzung?
    and communists ?
    You guys keep whatabouting communists whenever Nazis are brought up as if they are actually a thing.

  11. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netherspark View Post
    Do terrorists have a right to hold a rally? What about child rapists?

    When the very nature and purpose of an oganization is to cause harm, why should they have a right to rally?
    they do have that right



    disgusting but thats the price of free speech

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    and how do you tell who the nazis are ? because you and others use that label liberally, who's the judge ?
    I already answered you.

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Axelhander View Post
    No. In objective reality, the one we live in right now, this second, hate speech is the antithesis of free speech. Not an opinion. Not an ideal. Objective fact.

    Therefore, hate speech, as something that is factually, objectively a thing that opposes and quells free speech, must be criminalized. Similarly, anyone who defends hate speech under the guise of defending free speech is deluded at best.
    good we are on the same page then and are banning any religion that claims exclusivity right? because nothing sounds more hateful to me then "anyone who is not (religion x) is evil and deserves (insert bad afterlife here) ". that seams like its antithetical to everyone else s' right to say there beliefs.

  14. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    The fuck you are even talking? Voter fraud is nearly non existent in the US. An actual real threat is voter disfranchisement as perpetuated by the Republicans.

    Electoral college and voter identification have nothing to o with each other.

    Of course people need to get identification. But the Republicans try everything in their power to make it as hard as possible. People should be automatically registered to vote and issued identification. Like in Europe.

    All the electoral college does it make the votes of some Americans count more than the votes of others.

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    You guys keep whatabouting communists whenever Nazis are brought up as if they are actually a thing.
    evean if those carrying the soviet flag at some of the protests did it cos they just like the color, docent explain antifa are also guilt of Volksverhetzung if it was implemented.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Daethz View Post
    Thats because richard spencer is not "alt right" hes a troll, nobody but other trolls go to his rallys.
    Bannon just funds and supports anything that is anti-liberal, including extremist groups
    Richard Spencer made the alt Right a thing. If you're not a Nazi, maybe don't call yourself the same thing as the Nazis do.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Netherspark View Post
    Do terrorists have a right to hold a rally? What about child rapists?

    When the very nature and purpose of an organization is to cause harm, why should they have a right to rally?
    Yes and yes, providing both stay within the confines of the law.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Advocatus Diaboli View Post
    evean if those carrying the soviet flag at some of the protests did it cos they just like the color, docent explain antifa are also guilt of Volksverhetzung if it was implemented.
    They are not, though.

    incites hatred against a national, racial, religious group or a group defined by their ethnic origins, against segments of the population or individuals because of their belonging to one of the aforementioned groups or segments of the population or calls for violent or arbitrary measures against them;
    Also, just noticed ya username/location/sig. I got no time for trolls who don't debate in good faith but are just contrarian for kicks.

  18. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    I already answered you.
    but why then do you label people who don't advocate violence as Nazis and shut there rally's down ?

    under your definition are you no longer justified in doing that? or are you going to take a nuanced approach.

    and if its a nuanced thing and some one docent even need to advocate violence to be a nazi
    how can you justify violence against people based on opinion?

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Elba View Post
    Of course people need to get identification. But the Republicans try everything in their power to make it as hard as possible. People should be automatically registered to vote and issued identification. Like in Europe.
    I agree that all legal citizens should automatically be registered and given a voter id when they turn 18.
    And that all votes should be tracked and uploaded to a central .gov database, each voter given a printoff and a code they can look up on said database to confirm their votes where correct and the machine didn't lie to them and vote for someone else.

    But I also support the electoral college, because if you repeal that all republican states will just leave the union, and they would have done the same ~300 years ago without the electoral college, people in large compacted cities get infected with pack mentality, groupthink leading to massive centers of democrat voters.

    Furthermore California has too much electoral college power and the state should be split up into multiple states even if the feds have to step in and do it themselves.

  20. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    The one where this forum is filled with nazi sympathisers.
    Yeah it feels quite weird how the online community evolved from just being "lazy nolifers that got no friends", to involve all kinds of people, to now involve mostly nazidefending losers.

    Even the bodybuilding part is being filled with these people.

    What pisses me off the most is that i have always liked vikings since a young age and now, the alt-right and nazis have stolen many symbols out of them. I saw pictures of nazi rallies including this one and got kind of sad.

    I mean i am starting to get intimidated by these people. They are starting to come everywhere, and their behaviour is similar to when Turkish nationalism rised back in the days.

    I mean i also dont like far-left and ive seen them be racist towards white men. Now many white men are treating the rest they dont like EXACTLY like the far-left treated them some years ago. Soon, it will be us, who are going to be against them. My friends are slowly losing patience, theyve come to the point that if they see someone wear a MAGAhat, they will propably gang up on him somehow. But the thing is, that they dont hate all white people. They just hate these altright losers. But they seem to be the majority of white men now.

    I mean im not going to even help an "ANTISJW"person if he gets beaten up by a mob. I am also tired of these people but i myself aint gonna do anything to them. I am obeying the law but if its breaking the law not helping a racist who got problems, its the one and only law i will break. I am ignoring them to 100%, even if they need my help. I have lost all my will to help or communicate with these people. They can play alphamale, and they can get beaten up and take it like a man.

    But if i see people from the "left" gang up on a white man that has nothing to do with the altright racist bs culture, i am going to defend him against the "leftists".
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