Leveling alts quite slow now, how do I do it fast?

[SirCowdog]

Actually, this post does remind me that special case with monks. While their bonus does indeed not apply to everything, it does apply to all quests. This ironically makes certain cases that would otherwise be inefficient, such as TBC questing, far more effective; the goal is to do as many quests as possible without turning them in, pick up the monk +experience buff, and turn in 20+ at once for massive rewards that are all boosted.

On that note, I tested TBC questing vs WotLK questing under the new scaling with 7.3.5 back when it first launched. Interestingly enough, WotLK is nearly twice as fast, mostly due to newer quest design and world building philosophy.

As a final note, when the BfA pre-patch finally does arrive, activating PvP mode -- while risky, obviously -- will reward you with an additional +15% bonus experience, which is substantial. Keep this in mind for the future.

I haven't actually checked, but I assumed War Mode would be available for everywhere. But now I'm wondering if it's just the new zones, or is it available from level 1?

[lectos]

Download Handynotes.
Download Handynotes Draenor Treasures and Rares Plugin
Do nothing but Bonus Objectives and Treasure hunting with Garrison +20% exp potion.
Discover how Draenor is the fastest of every zone to level through.

srsly I completed the 90-100 in about 4 1/2 hours.

Disclaimer: This requires Draenor Pathfinder.

I was coming here to say this. Draenor is almost as fast as the 1-20 starting areas.

[SirCowdog]

I absolutely agree to all you said, but when you do it like you described you should have significantly less played, but it's just a little less. Questing and dungeoning has timeouts, like travel time or queuing time that bloats the /played (yet can also be used to do rl stuff), and you would expect that to wear down your /played pretty much compared to a char that only logs in once every hour, but apparently it does not so much.

That's my argument here, the m0 method does not seem to be more efficient - especially when you consider that not many players have two accounts so it requires the time of at least two people.

Method-0 specifically does NOT require two accounts. You really should youtube it.

I've heard a LOT of people claiming incredible speeds using only questing. But so far I've been unable to re-create it outside of a few very specific zones(Mt Hyjal, Azuremist Isle, and a few others). My own experiences(hur hur) with questing have only been unable to get levels down to around 15m/level, with the average being closer to 20-30m.

So if you can reach 88 in 24 hours, tell me what zones you used. What heirlooms, buffs, enchants, etc. Gimme them details! Because you're averaging ~16m per level just doing quests. That's pretty good!

[therealbowser]

On that note, I tested TBC questing vs WotLK questing under the new scaling with 7.3.5 back when it first launched. Interestingly enough, WotLK is nearly twice as fast, mostly due to newer quest design and world building philosophy.

This doesn't surprise me at all, actually. TBC is really tediously designed. If you happen to know the quest flow from the zones inside and out, it could in theory be faster, and likewise I'm sure some of the zones are just flat out better to quest in than others, but even so it would struggle to be on par with WotLK. To be honest, even with the scenario I suggested above -- stacking quests, then turning them all in with the monk experience buff -- feels like it could be potentially less efficient then just activating it and questing normally in WotLK. It requires testing to see if it's truly worthwhile.

I haven't actually checked, but I assumed War Mode would be available for everywhere. But now I'm wondering if it's just the new zones, or is it available from level 1?

No way to test what level it becomes available at since all characters start at level 110 on the beta. But I assume it's to get leveling characters to play in PvP zones; I'd assume it will be available at the same level battlegrounds unlock at the latest, level 10. It might not be available until your first talent though, level 15, since it utilizes the same menu. Lastly, it might just be available at level 1... I can't imagine this will be a high level feature only, though, because it seems like the entire reason of giving an experience bonus is to give leveling players a reason to stay flagged; I mean, how else are high level players going to have someone to gank in leveling areas? (Sadly, I'm only half kidding...)

Keep in mind that War Mode is literally the only way to flag up (as far as I can tell), so if it wasn't available to lower level players, it would literally dramatically change the game in what some might consider to be extremely negative. In short, I highly, highly doubt that Blizzard isn't going to make this available to players very early on. And I suspect it will flag you in all zones, including ones that were previously Alliance or Horde zones (as opposed to the ones that naturally flag players now on PvP realms). Nowhere would be safe with it active, persay.

[ramayana1423]

If you have the gold to buy a 300% XP potion and a friend willing to help you for 30 minutes, you can get 92-100 in about 30 minutes by killing the monster quest mobs and doing all bonus objectives in Gorgrond to 95%, popping the potion, then finishing all the objectives and passing in all monster quests. Can even be done cross faction, I leveled my Lightforged Draenei though WOD the other day, I main horde and had no alliance friends on, so a friend of mine just followed me around on his horde toon and killed things after I tagged them.

Even if you don't have a friend to help you do it, takes about 2 hours to do it solo.

[spleen1015]

You can bet there are going to be people who sprint to 120 so that they can grief low level players in the BfA leveling zones who are flagged.

[therealbowser]

Oh, one last thing to mention here that hasn't been posted I don't believe.

While recruit a friend no longer rewards 3x experience like it used to, it still works out to giving level grants. So if you are, like, trying to level up an entire server of characters, even though it's tedious it would make sense to create a secondary account with RAF if you can get one cheaply enough, especially if you are going to invest the extra 2 months on the account (easily doable for instant rewards with a 2 month time card) to get a free month on your main account and one of the special mounts.

The reason why is that you can still have the alternate account reward you with level grants; however, these boosts will prevent you from gaining heritage armor sets, so do not use them on allied races you plan on leveling for that purpose, and instead level up the allied races normally (having the alt account follow you won't affect you getting heritage armor).

There are (legitimate) addons that make your alternate character follow you, mount when you do, and turn in quests with you, but they will not fight with you. (If you want to "multibox" [IE, cast spells at the same time], you'll need an additional program that I'm pretty sure is technically legitimate as well, but I have never personally used it and don't plan to start.)

Whether this is practical or not is up to the user; it costs money, even if it's just $5 for one month of this service, and it doesn't work for all content. Likewise, I can tell you from experience that dealing with an extra account following you can be very tedious, and will effectively make running dungeons impossible, especially with the difficulty changes. You'll sacrifice a lot to make this work... but getting a free 1-100 (or 1-110? how far do they go now?) character for every 2 you level is a pretty big deal. You can even choose to be more efficient by only granting these levels to ones that are halfway there, getting boosted through the more tedious content.

Personally, I won't be utilizing it because I don't have an alternate server of characters to level or anything, but this may help some.

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You can bet there are going to be people who sprint to 120 so that they can grief low level players in the BfA leveling zones who are flagged.

No need to do this; with the +15% bonus to leveling, there will be gutsy players leveling in the low level zones, too. And you can be certain this option will be open to them.

[Ryuji]

Fastest method is being a monk if you can(if you're looking for allied race heritage armor anyway, RIP LFD), and have a max level friend run you through every dungeon from 20-60, quest after you run out of dungeons to run.

When you get to Outland/Northrend, can be run through Hellfire Ramparts a ton till your eyes bleed till 65 and you unlock all of the dungeons, then run them all once.

Can be run through all of the Northrend dungeons from about 70-77 or 78-ish then quest till 80.

Once you're 80, get run through Cata dungeons, and then MoP dungeons and quest in MoP.

Once you're 90, get to Draenor and collect treasures + do the bonus objectives(https://wow.curseforge.com/projects/draenortreasures helps a lot). I managed to get to 98 just from Shadowmoon Valley alone on my LFD paladin with treasures, quests and bonus objectives. After that I just flew around the other zones doing bonus objectives till 100(could also wait till 101 if you wanted to).

Once you're 100, just do legion invasions once a day if you can fly or have a friend who can fly you around. You'll get to 110 with the least burnout anyway(though you might get sick of Hellfire Ramparts or some other dungeons to be spam run through).

I can't stand questing(after doing it once or a few times on main toon + an alt or two) so this method worked wonders for me. and the friend who ran me through gets run through on stuff on their allied race n' whatnot.

[SirCowdog]

If you have the gold to buy a 300% XP potion and a friend willing to help you for 30 minutes, you can get 92-100 in about 30 minutes by killing the monster quest mobs and doing all bonus objectives in Gorgrond to 95%, popping the potion, then finishing all the objectives and passing in all monster quests. Can even be done cross faction, I leveled my Lightforged Draenei though WOD the other day, I main horde and had no alliance friends on, so a friend of mine just followed me around on his horde toon and killed things after I tagged them.

Even if you don't have a friend to help you do it, takes about 2 hours to do it solo.

Honestly...for the amount of gold those 300% potions cost these days, you might be better off just buying a level boost. :/

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presumably, these level grants will not prevent you from earning heritage armor since they are neither a race change nor a character boost.

The Heritage armor article on the blizzard site actually specifically tells you that RAF levels will make that character ineligible for heritage armor.

If you level up an Allied Race character all the way from their starting level 20 to 110 without boosting, faction/race-changing, or having levels granted to you through the Recruit-A-Friend program, you’ll earn that race’s distinctive Heritage Armor set

https://news.blizzard.com/en-gb/worl...or-azeroth-now

[therealbowser]

The Heritage armor article on the blizzard site actually specifically tells you that RAF levels will make that character ineligible for heritage armor.

If you level up an Allied Race character all the way from their starting level 20 to 110 without boosting, faction/race-changing, or having levels granted to you through the Recruit-A-Friend program, you’ll earn that race’s distinctive Heritage Armor set

https://news.blizzard.com/en-gb/worl...or-azeroth-now

Really? I take back what I said, then. It works for other races at least. I'm impressed at just how far Blizzard is going to make getting those heritage armor sets tedious.

It's still viable; you'd just be leveling any allied races you wanted armor for, then using the boosts on races you did not, but it's good to be aware of these things.

Thanks for clarifying.

[Katchii]

Method-0 specifically does NOT require two accounts. You really should youtube it.

I've heard a LOT of people claiming incredible speeds using only questing. But so far I've been unable to re-create it outside of a few very specific zones(Mt Hyjal, Azuremist Isle, and a few others). My own experiences(hur hur) with questing have only been unable to get levels down to around 15m/level, with the average being closer to 20-30m.

So if you can reach 88 in 24 hours, tell me what zones you used. What heirlooms, buffs, enchants, etc. Gimme them details! Because you're averaging ~16m per level just doing quests. That's pretty good!

The only concern I have with Method zero is how long do you have on the higher level character (after you've logged into it from your low level) before your lower level character stops getting xp/ credit for what you're doing? 30 seconds? a minute? However long it takes for your low level character to show as offline in the UI?

I tried it with Temple of the Jade Serpent and felt like I had to switch back and forth so many times it just wasn't worth it vs just staying on my low level and questing.

[crakerjack]

That's your issue, you don't spam dungeons to level. You mainly quest to level and only do dungeons 1 time. I'll quest and queue up for dungeons and if it's a dungeon I've already done, I drop and go back to questing. With all the scaling/rework, farming dungeons isn't an ideal way to level.

[Haydukelives]

The experience that the quests contribute for dungeon runs is really small. The old advice of only running each dungeon once really doesn't apply anymore.

[Freighter]

Stop worrying about getting to max level quickly. Enjoy the story and encounters.

Getting there is half the fun.

On horde I've got the following at level 110: Paladin, Priest, Mage, Rogue and Shaman.
At 100 I've got: Druid, Warrior, Hunter, Demon Hunter.

On alliance I've got the following at level 110: Paladin, Rogue, Druid, Mage.
At 100 I've got: Death Knight.

Getting there is half the fun? Enjoy the story and encounters? You mean the story and encounters I've done several times to the point they're just boring repetition? I just want to get to max level to get the armor from leveling a void elf to 110 and well, I want a priest on alliance too.

[SirCowdog]

Really? I take back what I said, then. It works for other races at least. I'm impressed at just how far Blizzard is going to make getting those heritage armor sets tedious.

It's still viable; you'd just be leveling any allied races you wanted armor for, then using the boosts on races you did not, but it's good to be aware of these things.

Thanks for clarifying.

I think it's a missed opportunity that heritage armor is only usable on that specific race, too.

It would have been that much more incentive to chase it down if it unlocked for all characters. Oh well...

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The only concern I have with Method zero is how long do you have on the higher level character (after you've logged into it from your low level) before your lower level character stops getting xp/ credit for what you're doing? 30 seconds? a minute? However long it takes for your low level character to show as offline in the UI?

I tried it with Temple of the Jade Serpent and felt like I had to switch back and forth so many times it just wasn't worth it vs just staying on my low level and questing.

As far as I can tell you have roughly 60 seconds or so. On most dungeons this means you need to pop back in on your leveling character before dropping bosses or bonus objectives. This is why a true dual box would be so much faster.

But fortunately WoW is a pretty non-intense game when it comes to graphics on the lowest settings. My swap takes maybe 10 seconds at it's longest, and I think that's mostly on the server side. I set all graphics to minimum, turn off sound, disable most addons, and use one window smaller than the other(since you're only REALLY playing on your 110).

But yes, you WILL be swapping a lot with any hardcore exp run.

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That's your issue, you don't spam dungeons to level. You mainly quest to level and only do dungeons 1 time. I'll quest and queue up for dungeons and if it's a dungeon I've already done, I drop and go back to questing. With all the scaling/rework, farming dungeons isn't an ideal way to level.

Strangely enough, I believe Blizzard has their random queue for dungeons set up so it prioritizes dungeons which you haven't done yet. At least last time I did it I swear I always got a dungeon I hadn't done on that character yet. Random chance or....

[Azerate]

It's shit and slow now. You're supposed to enjoy it instead of doing it fast now, or boost for 60$.

[Lucetia]

No need to do this; with the +15% bonus to leveling, there will be gutsy players leveling in the low level zones, too. And you can be certain this option will be open to them.

I remember reading somewhere that people will scale accordingly in PvP enable servers so you always fight people same level as you. That or they were going with a grouping route of same level people.

Strangely enough, I believe Blizzard has their random queue for dungeons set up so it prioritizes dungeons which you haven't done yet. At least last time I did it I swear I always got a dungeon I hadn't done on that character yet. Random chance or....

It has a higher chance, yeah. While they haven't said anything official I can base it off experience with multiple alts. You'll still get duplicates once in awhile mainly based on tanks/healers, but it tries to give you something new.

[therealbowser]

I remember reading somewhere that people will scale accordingly in PvP enable servers so you always fight people same level as you. That or they were going with a grouping route of same level people.

I hope that's true, but I'm not going to hold my breath on that. Even if it is, the way zones work have it so you could have a level 20 and a level 59 in the same leveling zone. I am curious to see if they actually try to match player levels.

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Strangely enough, I believe Blizzard has their random queue for dungeons set up so it prioritizes dungeons which you haven't done yet. At least last time I did it I swear I always got a dungeon I hadn't done on that character yet. Random chance or....

Huh. I got the same results to an extent IIRC, I am going to have to test this further.

[Pickynerd]

What is KZ? Click my signature(it's a link to a post on these forums), that's the method I used. Questing/random dungeon queues.

Good read, I'll give that method a shot if I can gather enough willpower to log in and play again, kind of want to finish my horde AR's, then again leveling even if it's 50 hours /sigh

[shadowmouse]

Wow. I haven't had that happen yet when I queue as dps, because on one of my alts sometimes I just feel like being lazy and waiting on a queue. I think only one time we had the tank/healer leave.

YMMV I'm working out of Beijing, so I'm on Chinese servers