Consume magic removed from DK given to DH

[Rhaxus]

So we will see DH's running around with Ice Barriers? Interesting.

no, its a purge, not a spellsteal

[Stardrift]

Not like it was useful anyways.

[Gorgodeus]

Gutted the class? What was lost? You'll have to forgive my ignorance, as I've never had any desire to play something that wears a dress.

If by gutted you mean the loss of cool, signature abilities I can sympathize, but if by gutted you mean warlocks lost things that affect gameplay....well.....I've never heard of a skilled warlock having a hard time getting into +24 tyrannical HOV.

The most iconic ability that demo locks had was Metamorphosis. It was taken, and given to DH.

Immolation Aura - taken and given to DH.

Several other abilities given DH are similar to warlocks'.

Demonology warlocks lost their identity after DH was released, and you can tell it. I have not checked recently, but not long after Demon Hunters were released, Warlock player numbers hit an all-time low, even lower than Monks.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Not like it was useful anyways.

On the short 6 or 8 sec CD it was actually quite usefull, especially in annoying dungeons like shitlode where you can take off shields of NPCs with it and down them way faster because of that. They certainly added some NPCs this time around with the spell in mind ..

[BRETTDESZORNS]

Not like it was useful anyways.

nice
so youve never played a new dungeon.

[Khain]

The most iconic ability that demo locks had was Metamorphosis. It was taken, and given to DH.

Immolation Aura - taken and given to DH.

Several other abilities given DH are similar to warlocks'.

Demonology warlocks lost their identity after DH was released, and you can tell it. I have not checked recently, but not long after Demon Hunters were released, Warlock player numbers hit an all-time low, even lower than Monks.

So wrong, those abilities were never iconic to Warlock, they were introduced in MoP were all stolen from WC3 DH to begin with. It's not like there was no compensation, demonology was redesigned to feel more like a summoner warlock than a DH, demo in beta feels amazing. On the other hand Reap Magic simply vanished from DK spell book and popped on DH's with no patch notes, no compensation nada...

On the same note, before DK was released warlocks had death coil. Was it stolen from warlocks? NO BECAUSE IT'S AN ICONIC DK SPELL FROM WC3!!!!

[Stardrift]

nice
so youve never played a new dungeon.

Yes, I have. And it was far from useful.

[Gorgodeus]

So wrong, those abilities were never iconic to Warlock, they were introduced in MoP were all stolen from WC3 DH to begin with. It's not like there was no compensation, demonology was redesigned to feel more like a summoner warlock than a DH, demo in beta feels amazing. On the other hand Reap Magic simply vanished from DK spell book and popped on DH's with no patch notes, no compensation nada...

On the same note, before DK was released warlocks had death coil. Was it stolen from warlocks? NO BECAUSE IT'S AN ICONIC DK SPELL FROM WC3!!!!

Yes, they were iconic to warlocks in WoW. What WC3 had is not relevant, when talking about an existing class in WoW having abilities removed and given to another class. When a class plummets to least represented class immediately after this happens, one does not need to be a rocket scientist to see why.

[Spyro-]

So wrong, those abilities were never iconic to Warlock, they were introduced in MoP

Both Metamorphosis and Immolation Aura are from WotLK, not MoP.

[dcc626]

hardly, right now dh is a better tank in pretty much any aspect the only reason blood is king right now is because we bring 15% leech to the group if thats gone blood is just a shitty dh

single grip. aoe grip with larger radius and no charge time. yeah. its just leech.

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hardly, right now dh is a better tank in pretty much any aspect the only reason blood is king right now is because we bring 15% leech to the group if thats gone blood is just a shitty dh

single grip. aoe grip with larger radius and no charge time. yeah. its just leech. aggramar is just full of DH tanks.

[Dolus]

I've been gearing up a DH. Looks like I made a good decision in doing so.

[TriggeredKid]

Blizzards moving from one favorite child to another, end of story.

[Hoeth]

Yes, they were iconic to warlocks in WoW. What WC3 had is not relevant, when talking about an existing class in WoW having abilities removed and given to another class. When a class plummets to least represented class immediately after this happens, one does not need to be a rocket scientist to see why.

Least represented in what capacity? Affliction is the TOP DPS spec in both mythic raids and M+22 keys, and the third highest represented spec in RBGs above 2k. Destruction is the second-highest represented spec in 3's above 2k. Demo isn't as dominant as affliction, but it certainly isn't a bad DPS spec by any means.

Jeez man, I can understand if you don't find the class/spec as fun as it once was, but that is entirely subjective. What is entirely objective is that Affliction is arguably the strongest spec in the entire game (again...), and Blizzard clearly intends to keep it that way.

[Gorgodeus]

Least represented in what capacity? Affliction is the TOP DPS spec in both mythic raids and M+22 keys, and the third highest represented spec in RBGs above 2k. Destruction is the second-highest represented spec in 3's above 2k. Demo isn't as dominant as affliction, but it certainly isn't a bad DPS spec by any means.

Jeez man, I can understand if you don't find the class/spec as fun as it once was, but that is entirely subjective. What is entirely objective is that Affliction is arguably the strongest spec in the entire game (again...), and Blizzard clearly intends to keep it that way.

After they gutted locks to give shit to DHs, Warlock dropped below Monks in class representation, meaning people no longer wanted to play warlock. It has nothing to do with the dps capabilities.

[Frolk]

Not like it was useful anyways.

Never done a Mythic dungeon above +2 ?

[Rhaxus]

Blizzards moving from one favorite child to another, end of story.

i fail to remember DK ever being the favorite anything in the history of wow. they had some good times, but also plenty shit ones

[Hoeth]

i fail to remember DK ever being the favorite anything in the history of wow. they had some good times, but also plenty shit ones

Blood has had the preferred toolkit for M+ most of this expansion. Moving the "preferred child" to another class isn't the problem, but rather that one tank is clearly superior to the others. The other tanks CAN get the job done of course, but Blood makes things MUCH easier in general.

[Zensunni]

Yes, I have. And it was far from useful.

If you don't think purge isn't useful in m+, you are doing keys so low that it doesn't matter or you're simply not utilizing your toolkit. Full stop.

[Rhaxus]

Blood has had the preferred toolkit for M+ most of this expansion. Moving the "preferred child" to another class isn't the problem, but rather that one tank is clearly superior to the others. The other tanks CAN get the job done of course, but Blood makes things MUCH easier in general.

once they gave consumption the leech effect;
i remember that before that there were DHs and paladins dominating m+

[Stardrift]

If you don't think purge isn't useful in m+, you are doing keys so low that it doesn't matter or you're simply not utilizing your toolkit. Full stop.

We lived just fine without it in Legion. Want it so bad? Use a DH lol Don't wanna play one? Recruit one.

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Never done a Mythic dungeon above +2 ?

Never done one without consume magic, apparently? What a useless ability. Enjoy they GCD for a shitty exchange of RP and one enemy without a shield or some shit that could be burned down in half the time it took you to press the button.