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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRest4Wicked View Post
    Bring Endus back, at least he actively moderated.
    This. Endus was an excellent mod who actually had context. @xskarma.

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    Off-topic, but I gotta ask: whose alt account the OP is?
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    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
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    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    Off-topic, but I gotta ask: whose alt account the OP is?
    I used to use KrazyK923. I took a long break after I saw myself becoming far too toxic and caring what people were saying on this website. As such, when I first left, I randomized my log-in info so I couldn't get back into the account to post.

    I made a new one with the name I actually use on my Youtube channel in case I wanted to ever advertise that stuff here again, although I don't think I ultimately will. I dont have much desire to go back to KrazyK923.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callipygoustp View Post
    Kind of regret my premium membership when I see knee jerk reactions like this.
    Yeah same. This board is going south FAST. Not renewing my sub if moderation is staying their AFK stance.
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    nazi is not the abbreviation of national socialism....
    When googling 4 letters is asking too much fact-checking.

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by Necroxis View Post
    I used to use KrazyK923. I took a long break after I saw myself becoming far too toxic and caring what people were saying on this website. As such, when I first left, I randomized my log-in info so I couldn't get back into the account to post.

    I made a new one with the name I actually use on my Youtube channel in case I wanted to ever advertise that stuff here again, although I don't think I ultimately will. I dont have much desire to go back to KrazyK923.
    Wait, was that the person with the Robotnik avatar!? Was that you?

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Wait, was that the person with the Robotnik avatar!?
    Yes. This is all off topic though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necroxis View Post
    I'm not sure that some of you coming in actually understand the problem some of us are having.

    There was a thread started about TB in the video game forum. It went on for a long time.

    There was another thread started in the OT forum that got closed because the first thread was up.

    The first thread then got filled with trollish comments by the same ~6-7 people and ultimately was closed instead of actually moderated.

    And now there's a 3rd thread that has been opened after all of this which is going to suffer the same fate due to lack of moderation.

    The problem is that the first thread was fine and should have just been moderated.
    I understand plenty. I get it, a great many of you liked the man... and there are a few that loathe the man... Those that loathe the man are as entitled to their opinion as those that liked him, and they are just as entitled to share that opinion, whether YOU like it or not.

    If you dont like a post, you report it and move on. As far as moderation, if you dont like how the moderators do their jobs then you take it up with a global. You dont post a thread and try and shit all over the moderators.

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  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    The problem with Mods on this website is as clear as day: for the most part they're drive-by mods. They usually aren't frequent participants in the subforums, or at least in the most popular types of threads. They don't know the people. They don't follow the conversations. They don't read the entirety of the threads. So when the time comes to "moderate", it's invariably sloppy.

    To me, this is particularly amusing. In an exchange with a blue, one of them (take a wild guess) said a bunch of crap that neither of us believed about "context", which of course, is impossible to create for the mods, when the mods aren't participants. To create "context" one has to be involved.

    So yeah. Bad moderation will continue until we get mods who are actually participants in the types of the threads that are posted. In OT for example, most of of the threads are politics or current events. Of the listed mods in OT:

    Pendulous, Kasierith, Shamanic, -aiko-, Jester Joe, Gray_Matter, GothamCity, Thwart

    I think only Kasierith is a regular (and frequent) participant, and to a lesser degree GothamCity and GrayMatter. I can't recall a single fucking post from the rest of them, ever. But maybe that's because I don't participate in "silly" threads there. Edge-, Crissi and a few others who have nothing to do with OT do moderate there, and usually do "have context".
    Yep you hit the nail on the head. There needs to be mods who are active in the sub-form they are in and who actually moderate.
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  9. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Necroxis View Post
    Yes. This is all off topic though.
    Didn't always agree with you, but I remember you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necroxis View Post
    I used to use KrazyK923. I took a long break after I saw myself becoming far too toxic and caring what people were saying on this website. As such, when I first left, I randomized my log-in info so I couldn't get back into the account to post.

    I made a new one with the name I actually use on my Youtube channel in case I wanted to ever advertise that stuff here again, although I don't think I ultimately will. I dont have much desire to go back to KrazyK923.
    You must be the first one ever to admit using an alt account. I commend you for your honesty.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puupi View Post
    You must be the first one ever to admit using an alt account. I commend you for your honesty.
    Well I didn't switch because I was banned or something, rather I wanted to distance myself from the hated associated with my account (Not from others because I dont really care much what people on this website think about most things, no offense, but for my own sanity), I just wanted to make a new account.

    Anyhow this is driving the thread off topic. It's disappointing that the third thread is quickly becoming filled with the same toxicity as the other one and there's not much being done about it.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    Those that loathe the man are as entitled to their opinion as those that liked him.
    There is a difference in just giving a opinion and praising the fact he died or saying shit like you want to beat up his family.

    There is a line you don't cross because it then goes from a simple opinion to just being a asshole. The thread was about the man passing away, Not a time to shit on him and his family just because "you" don't like him.

    There was shit said in that thread that many country's would lock your ass up for saying.
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  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    If they really wanted to do something they would end the endless burner account train people use.
    WTF are train people? Is this the new attack helicopter gender?

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    Those that loathe the man are as entitled to their opinion as those that liked him, and they are just as entitled to share that opinion, whether YOU like it or not.
    Except that isn't what is happening here. You can say, "I don't like this person" but people are gleefully celebrating his death, lying about him in some disgusting, "he deserved it" implication, and constantly bringing up the two tweets he sent to people telling them to get cancer while ignoring second half of the story, which was him publicly apologizing, the person accepting, and TB HIMSELF bringing it up multiple times after that in a "We all need to do better, including myself" sort of way.

    Its petty oneupsmanship against a dead person. That's way worse than, "I didn't like this person."
    Last edited by Necroxis; 2018-05-26 at 12:58 AM.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    I know this thread is technically pushing the line with rules but if there is a constant offender that gets banned several times, action must be taken. Now I don't know what a fair amount of bans would be(I'm talking full on bans not actual infractions that break) before they're done with MMO-Champion.


    I'd offer to help but I only came to the realization I'm probably not good for a mod. I'm afraid my "biases" might hinder me too much(And we all have biases or whatever you call them).
    xskarma basically said to me the other week when I asked why Shalcker is still allowed to post. After (laughably) threatening me, he said in so many words "what do you expect us to do?".

    It was a bizarre response. But said a lot. I expect them to do their fucking jobs. That's what.

    I expect the mods to deploy the tools that every forum in the last 25 years has had. IP Bans, IP matching, and ban every single alt account that pops up as quickly as they turn up.

    But more than anything else, i expect them to be on top of it. If a guy makes 50 accounts a day for 50 days straight, I expect the mods to be mechanical in their reaction, not feeling like they can't win in such a scenario. Sure you can win. You just keep banning them.


    Not to switch topics, but since this is about moderation... the fact that Shalcker is still able to participate after what he is, after what he has spent literally years doing - and enormous paper trail - is _the_ MMO-OT moderation scandal. Other forums cleaned up people like Shalcker years ago. But this special place? It has navel gazing mods who decide why that's too hard for them.

    Here's a solution: ban the rule breaking cunts, and then ban them again and again and again, and then ban them forever. Because you can do that. Shocking, I know.
    Last edited by Skroe; 2018-05-26 at 01:03 AM.

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    banning == less site traffic.
    == less money
    == NO MUNIE

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by NoRest4Wicked View Post
    Bring Endus back, at least he actively moderated.
    Lol, while you have a point, Endus wasn't a shining example of a mod. Sure, stick him on a specific topic where he will keep the law, but he took bias to the extreme in Gen-OT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necroxis View Post
    Except that isn't what is happening here. You can say, "I don't like this person" but people are gleefully celebrating his death, lying about him in some disgusting, "he deserved it" implication, and constantly bringing up the two tweets he sent to people telling them to get cancer while ignoring second half of the story, which was him publicly apologizing, the person accepting, and TB HIMSELF bringing it up multiple times after that in a "We all need to do better, including myself" sort of way.

    Its petty oneupsmanship against a dead person. That's way worse than, "I didn't like this person."
    Then you report it and move on. It's really that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seranthor View Post
    Then you report it and move on. It's really that simple.
    And the mods aren't doing anything.

    Which is the point of the OP. I even like Edge-, but its particularly egregious when they came in with a warning in the first page and then there was nothing done about it after the rules they set out directly were being flagrantly broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Yep you hit the nail on the head. There needs to be mods who are active in the sub-form they are in and who actually moderate.
    The moderator reaction times are horrible to say the least. It usually takes them hours or days to react to simple reports. I've resorted to mention-tagging blues and online GenOT mods for blatant issues like that 'european peasants' guy. That works better. But normal reports don't work well nowadays. I also don't like moderators not being consistent with the infractions.

    Flaming is an infractable offense, so every time someone calls another person an asshole, idiot, fucker, nazi, racist, faggot etc. it should be minor flaming, 5 points. Always. For every single post. No exceptions.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i've said i'd like to have one of those bad dragon dildos shaped like a horse, because the shape is nicer than human.
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i was talking about horse cock again, told him to look at your sig.

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