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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    WHilst I agree those other characters are still better, as I said, we don't have any Draenei and the Paladin we do have is a Male. so it makes sense for Yrel.
    I don't care about gender quotas and muh diversity. Give me cool character not their genitals.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    I don't care about gender quotas and muh diversity. Give me cool character not their genitals.
    I like Yrel. She's the only motherfucker we found in the Tanaan invasion that actually broke herself out. Overpowered her orc captor while tied up with her bare hands, then fought her way out with a goddamn mining pick. With no formal combat training!

    Then she accompanies the Alliance player through basically all of Shadowmoon Valley, constantly helping them out on their quest and pursuing her own goals, wrestling between hopelessness and dedication, picking herself back up and growing as a character when she fails and becoming more capable as the expansion goes on.
    Even her equipment changes over time to reflect her growth. How often do we see THAT in WoW? Usually their appearance just suddenly changes BEFORE they become relevant again. (See: Saurfang)


    And, again, we see all of this IN GAME! It isn't all hidden in some obscure $20 novel, or comic PDF, or trading card flavour-text... it's actually all conveyed to us in World of Warcraft. The whole thing! How is that not refreshing?
    Last edited by Mixxy; 2018-06-04 at 12:43 PM.

  3. #103
    I would have liked to see Tirion (or Alexandros; either of the Ashbringers) but Yrel isn't bad either.

    Yay for first draenei hero too. Hopefully we'll get Velen soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    I don't care about gender quotas and muh diversity. Give me cool character not their genitals.
    I don't either, but Blizzard has shown multiple times in recent years that they have drank that Koolaid, which is why I said it makes sense.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Theoris View Post
    I would have liked to see Tirion (or Alexandros; either of the Ashbringers) but Yrel isn't bad either.

    Yay for first draenei hero too. Hopefully we'll get Velen soon.
    I, sadly, doubt we'd ever get Velen. If they ever add a Holy Priest, there's no doubt it'd be Anduin. And the two would be way too mechanically similar to get both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixxy Scratch View Post
    I, sadly, doubt we'd ever get Velen. If they ever add a Holy Priest, there's no doubt it'd be Anduin. And the two would be way too mechanically similar to get both.
    Getting Anduin first, dosen't mean we may not get Velen. All about is skills and i think, Anduin in hots might be mix of paladin and priest...
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  7. #107
    Yrel confirmed.

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  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixxy Scratch View Post
    I, sadly, doubt we'd ever get Velen. If they ever add a Holy Priest, there's no doubt it'd be Anduin. And the two would be way too mechanically similar to get both.
    As long as I get a holy-themed priest I'm good, really. While I wouldn't mind Anduin, I would prefer Velen.

    As for mechanics, Velen would probably be more about barriers and Anduin about AoE healing (or vice versa). With the already similar WoW type classes we got in Heroes (like Muradin and Garrosh; both are tank warriors with different kits and utilities) priests shouldn't be that hard of a nut to crack.
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  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixxy Scratch View Post
    I like Yrel. She's the only motherfucker we found in the Tanaan invasion that actually broke herself out. Overpowered her orc captor while tied up with her bare hands, then fought her way out with a goddamn mining pick. With no formal combat training!

    Then she accompanies the Alliance player through basically all of Shadowmoon Valley, constantly helping them out on their quest and pursuing her own goals, wrestling between hopelessness and dedication, picking herself back up and growing as a character when she fails and becoming more capable as the expansion goes on.
    Even her equipment changes over time to reflect her growth. How often do we see THAT in WoW? Usually their appearance just suddenly changes BEFORE they become relevant again. (See: Saurfang)


    And, again, we see all of this IN GAME! It isn't all hidden in some obscure $20 novel, or comic PDF, or trading card flavour-text... it's actually all conveyed to us in World of Warcraft. The whole thing! How is that not refreshing?
    Ok that is tumblr post for sure. Add few more feels and it is going to get fame.
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I don't either, but Blizzard has shown multiple times in recent years that they have drank that Koolaid, which is why I said it makes sense.
    Oh, ok. Well, fuck Blizzard too.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I don't either, but Blizzard has shown multiple times in recent years that they have drank that Koolaid, which is why I said it makes sense.
    Why does being kind of progressive always have to mean they're drinking some sort of cultural Kool-Aid? So far Blizzard has only done the bare minimum in terms of diversity (adding more LGBT characters to their games, ethnics, etc,etc). It's not like they have characters yapping about the patriarchy, "mansplaining", air conditioning being sexist, and what have you, right?

  11. #111
    I think the logic is easy to follow. Old man Paladin = Uther. Tirion and old man Turalyon look "similar". Yes, I know, not really that similar. But since they "HAD TO" make 3d portraits 2d because...We are all blind, those two become too close
    Another point. We are getting Anduin for sure with BfA. That's a priest. And male. So Velen won't be added (at least yet). We need a female and a dreanei. So who else?

    It doesn't really matter all that much to me.

  12. #112
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    Once you have your favorite characters in-game, you stop caring about who Blizzard adds.

    I remember when I hated to see Deck Caine hero suggestion, but now, I don't give a shit.. looks like a cool hero in this game.

  13. #113
    We also need a Void Elf in this game. I hope that Alleria Windrunner, or even Magister Umbric, will be added after Yrel.

  14. #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    I don't care about gender quotas and muh diversity. Give me cool character not their genitals.
    i dont know why you are bringing that up.

    any good content creator makes sure that a large cast looks different from each other. Every cartoon duo has one person who is square shaped or circle shaped and one person who is long/tall and skinny (mario, luigi; ren and stimpy; Timone and Pumba)

    So it shows a real unhealth obsession when someone says "this is one way in which this character is different from other character" and that 'way' just happens to be that they are a woman instead of a man , and you go and post something like this.

    Regardless only a fool would doubt the 'cool' factor of Yrel. She went from slave to badass general, fought alongside us and basically flipped off Ogrim Doomhammer

    she ticks off all the concepts of 'cool' without being a stupid cliche like James Bond or the Punisher

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theoris View Post
    Why does being kind of progressive always have to mean they're drinking some sort of cultural Kool-Aid? So far Blizzard has only done the bare minimum in terms of diversity (adding more LGBT characters to their games, ethnics, etc,etc). It's not like they have characters yapping about the patriarchy, "mansplaining", air conditioning being sexist, and what have you, right?
    its been scientifically proven that when there is an equal amount of women in the room most men think there are to many, similarly when there are even less than the modest '10% lgbt" that straighties think there are getting to be to much.

    basically anything remotely similar to Reality is seen as "to much" because anything remotely near the concept of a video game, comic book, or movie is considered belonging to 'men" and anything more is an infringement.

    sorry if that was to wordy or whatever

    my point being is MULTIPLE studies have PROVEN that the precence of women, women voices, or women characters is seen as an affront to their version of reality

    I mean the fact that this last page has gotten like this is proof.

    if it was a male character they wouldnt even question if that was the right choice. same thing happened with overwatch, the original cast at launch was overwhelmingly male so they added 3 characters that were in development before the game launched (they said it takes about 8 months at least to make a character) and you had ppl crying foul that there were to many women
    Romance doesnt detract from a story. Its a Genre, like horror or comedy or adventure. The game was ruined when we got Horror in drustvar or nazmir. It wasnt ruined when we had funny quests. So if you think a little man on man love ruins the game, then yes you are either a homophobe or just a spoil sport that goes "ewww kissing is yucky" like a baby. Furthermore, if a character has never expressed interest in any gender, then its not proof they are straight. straight people are not the default

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post
    i dont know why you are bringing that up.

    any good content creator makes sure that a large cast looks different from each other. Every cartoon duo has one person who is square shaped or circle shaped and one person who is long/tall and skinny (mario, luigi; ren and stimpy; Timone and Pumba)

    So it shows a real unhealth obsession when someone says "this is one way in which this character is different from other character" and that 'way' just happens to be that they are a woman instead of a man , and you go and post something like this.

    Regardless only a fool would doubt the 'cool' factor of Yrel. She went from slave to badass general, fought alongside us and basically flipped off Ogrim Doomhammer

    she ticks off all the concepts of 'cool' without being a stupid cliche like James Bond or the Punisher

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    its been scientifically proven that when there is an equal amount of women in the room most men think there are to many, similarly when there are even less than the modest '10% lgbt" that straighties think there are getting to be to much.

    basically anything remotely similar to Reality is seen as "to much" because anything remotely near the concept of a video game, comic book, or movie is considered belonging to 'men" and anything more is an infringement.

    sorry if that was to wordy or whatever

    my point being is MULTIPLE studies have PROVEN that the precence of women, women voices, or women characters is seen as an affront to their version of reality

    I mean the fact that this last page has gotten like this is proof.

    if it was a male character they wouldnt even question if that was the right choice. same thing happened with overwatch, the original cast at launch was overwhelmingly male so they added 3 characters that were in development before the game launched (they said it takes about 8 months at least to make a character) and you had ppl crying foul that there were to many women
    You are that person who thinks that fat slobs female kul'tirans are ok looking. Sorry, I don't think your opinion holds much water in this case.

    Yrel is no badass but a shitty mary sue for intellectual plebs. Forced character, nothing more.

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    Well, Yrel is rather bad character as Blizzard had to put everything meaningful and full of potential out of the way to advance her plot.

    I mean, look. Maraad was an amazing character because he had his real flaws and the rollercoaster of his emotions throughout Shadowmoon Valley, Gorgrond and Talador was actually well written as it had punch behind it. However Blizzard decided to kill him to advance Yrel's character. Maraad was redeemable and had massive potential for Legion expansion had he survived, on top of that using him would actually feel good as he is no alternate universe monstrosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixxy Scratch View Post
    I like Yrel. She's the only motherfucker we found in the Tanaan invasion that actually broke herself out. Overpowered her orc captor while tied up with her bare hands, then fought her way out with a goddamn mining pick. With no formal combat training!

    Then she accompanies the Alliance player through basically all of Shadowmoon Valley, constantly helping them out on their quest and pursuing her own goals, wrestling between hopelessness and dedication, picking herself back up and growing as a character when she fails and becoming more capable as the expansion goes on.
    Even her equipment changes over time to reflect her growth. How often do we see THAT in WoW? Usually their appearance just suddenly changes BEFORE they become relevant again. (See: Saurfang)


    And, again, we see all of this IN GAME! It isn't all hidden in some obscure $20 novel, or comic PDF, or trading card flavour-text... it's actually all conveyed to us in World of Warcraft. The whole thing! How is that not refreshing?
    Because she goes from a loser to hero and leader of the draenei in like 1 patch.

    Garrosh, as a comparing example, took many expansions of growth and acts before becoming warchief. He had time to develop

    Yrel is Blizz going "here is a strong independent woman, now fucken love her and think she is so cool and badass." Her growth was far too quick and not satisfying, because it felt more like a diversity quota thing than actual hardwork.

    Like, what I literally remember from Yrel is she let a bunch of people die because she sucked as commander than Velen going "you have greatness in you!" um...what?

    Oh well, least this gives me an eager chance to corpse-camp Yrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RH92 View Post
    Well, Yrel is rather bad character as Blizzard had to put everything meaningful and full of potential out of the way to advance her plot.

    I mean, look. Maraad was an amazing character because he had his real flaws and the rollercoaster of his emotions throughout Shadowmoon Valley, Gorgrond and Talador was actually well written as it had punch behind it. However Blizzard decided to kill him to advance Yrel's character. Maraad was redeemable and had massive potential for Legion expansion had he survived, on top of that using him would actually feel good as he is no alternate universe monstrosity.
    Maraad was lord and badass. He would have made such a great draenei leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tristannarutofan View Post

    Regardless only a fool would doubt the 'cool' factor of Yrel. She went from slave to badass general, fought alongside us and basically flipped off Ogrim Doomhammer
    Doomhammer was infinitely cooler than Yrel. Her basically flipping of Doomhammer was blizzard was going "haha women beats toxic male."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fetus Rex View Post
    You are that person who thinks that fat slobs female kul'tirans are ok looking. Sorry, I don't think your opinion holds much water in this case.

    Yrel is no badass but a shitty mary sue for intellectual plebs. Forced character, nothing more.
    You sound like you'd be more comfortable posting on r/incels
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