Titanforging is out of control in BFA

[Ealyssa]

This is my 8th level 110 I'm leveling up and this is the first TF I've ever seen drop. I've seen dozens of WF drops.

So it's not "out of control" at all ? And you made a bullshit thread ? Nice to make it clear...

[Siq1ne]

Weird, i recall reading somewhere that Blizz wanted to limit titanforging to a certain itemlevel above the item's base ilevel, and i'm pretty sure the limit wasn't 115...

This could be a bug, have you reported it?

Find this quote. I don't think it exists. This is an example of spreading misinformation and everybody just blinding believing it.

The only thing I recall is them saying they are tuning the Titanforging drop chances. The cap will always be the maximum cap for everything, so deal with it

If somebody gets lucky, congratulate them and move on. Don't dwell over it because you don't get everything when somebody else does.

[RoKPaNda]

Not really, your'e not considering all factors and your point of view is too narrowed. For a mythic player that luck is less significant than for the LFR/normal player. Because of the cap the mythic player can get what? 985 ilvl? I got 960 ilvl trinket from the normal on my alt.



I understand, but there's no reason why they could even get items ilvl higher than their current progress.

My problems with TF is that it's unfair, that's all. There should be 20 ilvl cap for it - fine. But no more.

I'm not whinning or anything, but saying that's TF system is fair is just wrong.
I don't think it's a game-breaking as it is now, but I'm just showing flaws of that system.

And Blizzard disagrees with you. You can expect one item of Mythic base level from Normal throughout an entire tier, and around 3~ from heroic. As a Mythic raider this doesn't bother me in the slightest. Oh no, some person that runs Heroic and Normal every week in a normal length tier is going to see MAYBE 4 >decent< items. No guarantee those pieces were even in a usable slot. THE HORROR. It's fun for them, and it doesn't impact me because they're not in my raid. If you feel some scrub having a couple nice pieces here and there is devaluing your accomplishments as a Mythic raider then maybe you're raiding for the wrong reasons.

On the other hand, I feel that if they capped it to 15/20/25/whatever like some people are suggesting that it would be catastrophic for everyone that isn't raiding Mythic (That's most people btw, by a huge margin btw.) - I'd probably unsub over that even though it wouldn't impact me because it would indicate that Blizzard is out of touch. Let the casuals have their lottery. In no way is it "unfair" for those of us that raid Mythic. We get our epic content, we still get our better loot overall, etc.

Whining about Titanforging at this point is so tired. I mean the weekly Mythic+ cache is a FREE Mythic raid level item for even less effort than raiding Heroic/Normal and a much more reliable way of getting good gear.

Imagine being upset because someone in garbage level gear gets a nice piece. Lol.

Find this quote. I don't think it exists. This is an example of spreading misinformation and everybody just blinding believing it.

The only thing I recall is them saying they are tuning the Titanforging drop chances. The cap will always be the maximum cap for everything, so deal with it

If somebody gets lucky, congratulate them and move on. Don't dwell over it because you don't get everything when somebody else does.

Pretty much. At this point it's really just gotten sad. It's kind of amazing, for a community that prides itself on theorycrafting people can't understand how infrequently high titanforges happen.

[Accendor]

report it. this shouldn't be possible at all. especially when blizzard said that they will limit titanforged

While this might be a bug, they are not limited the numbers of time an item can titanforge, only the probability. So in theory it could still be possible.

[Shakou]

OP is completely making making shit up. Nevermind that all types of bonus I lvls, sockets and stats are rare in BFA, Item Level 115 is ten item levels over the base lvl that Mythic HELLFIRE CITADEL gear drops. After the stats squish.

To give you some more perspective, normal dungeon gear in Legion after the stat squish will drop at base I lvl 160 at lvl 110. Not even legion greens drop at I lvl 115 when you are 110. I am on the beta and I can assure you that NO BFA gear drops at I lvl 115 when you are 110. All BFA blues drop at the same base I lvl as Normal Antorus raid loot at lvl 110, which is item lvl 210. Mythic Antorus raid loot is baseline I lvl 225. So if you have antorus raid loot you won't be replacing anything, and if you don't you won't be that far behind.

A moderator should lock this thread cuz OP is just five-letter-word-we-can't-say-here-ing.

[Lixion]

Really looks like you got a 120 to trade you a piece that titanforget 15 ilvl.

Gave a guildie a few pieces when we queued normals it was ilvl 310 useable at lvl 110.(i was 120 he was 111)

[Tatahe]

For level 110 the base item is 210. You're looking at level 120 loot for the same dungeon.

So (for me) the bug is pretty obvious, that item is dropping at lvl 120 version for 110 players and... THIS TIME IT TITANFORGED +15.

So a item that should drop at 210 dropped as 310 cause a bug and... it proc +15 & speed.

Anybody else thinks the same?

[Shakou]

So (for me) the bug is pretty obvious, that item is dropping at lvl 120 version for 110 players and... THIS TIME IT TITANFORGED +15.

So a item that should drop at 210 dropped as 310 cause a bug and... it proc +15 & speed.

Anybody else thinks the same?

There's no bug, OP is making shit up. Fucking Mythic Hellfire Citadel Gear is base I lvl 105 in the beta. Not even Legion greens drop at I lvl 115 for a 110 character on Beta.

Also base I lvl blues at lvl 120 do not quite drop at 310. Ones from world quests start at I lvl 295, ones from rares drop at base I lvl 289. The World Quest loots scale based on your I lvl just like they do on live up to (as far as I can tell) a max 310 base I lvl. Perhaps they scale even further once you have full 340 I lvl or better. My main on beta is 316 equipped and I get 310 blues from world quests now, but when I first hit max lvl they were I lvl 295.

[Samin]

There's no bug, OP is making shit up. Fucking Mythic Hellfire Citadel Gear is base I lvl 105 in the beta. Not even Legion greens drop at I lvl 115 for a 110 character on Beta.

Also base I lvl blues at lvl 120 do not quite drop at 310. Ones from world quests start at I lvl 295, ones from rares drop at base I lvl 289. The World Quest loots scale based on your I lvl just like they do on live up to (as far as I can tell) a max 310 base I lvl. Perhaps they scale even further once you have full 340 I lvl or better. My main on beta is 316 equipped and I get 310 blues from world quests now, but when I first hit max lvl they were I lvl 295.

I really don't see the point outright dismissing this as "made up". Even if there is only a 1 in a quintillion chance for this happening, making it not a serious problem or "unfair" (except for the levelling race which I'm not sure is even a thing anymore?), it can still happen. No reason to cry about Titanforging, but people will nonetheless.

Or, it's a bug where under some circumstances you get loot with too high base level because of dungeon scaling or whatever. If this is reproducable, it's a bigger problem because there will be widespread exploitation early on if it's not fixed.

Or, of course, it could all be made up.

[Shakou]

I really don't see the point outright dismissing this as "made up". Even if there is only a 1 in a quintillion chance for this happening, making it not a serious problem or "unfair" (except for the levelling race which I'm not sure is even a thing anymore?), it can still happen. No reason to cry about Titanforging, but people will nonetheless.

Or, it's a bug where under some circumstances you get loot with too high base level because of dungeon scaling or whatever. If this is reproducable, it's a bigger problem because there will be widespread exploitation early on if it's not fixed.

Or, of course, it could all be made up.

I am on the beta. The OP is making this up. He is not even telling you the truth about the ilvl of gear in BFA, or in the rest of the game with the stat squish.

If it did happen anyone with some basic sense would have simply taken a screenshot showing us their character with the character and loot windows open so we can clearly tell this is something that actually happened in game, instead of posting some poorly edited bullshit that doesn't prove what they're saying is real.

The whole entire OP and everything it's claiming is 100% for sure, completely fake. It should be obvious by the lack of evidence that it's real and the overwhelming evidence that gear lvls aren't even remotely like what the OP describes in BFA.

If you don't see the point of calling this what it is, you're probably in on it with the OP. This is clearly fake. What in the god damn world could the point be to blatantly lie about shit like this?

[Kaljurei]

There's no bug, OP is making shit up. Fucking Mythic Hellfire Citadel Gear is base I lvl 105 in the beta. Not even Legion greens drop at I lvl 115 for a 110 character on Beta.

Also base I lvl blues at lvl 120 do not quite drop at 310. Ones from world quests start at I lvl 295, ones from rares drop at base I lvl 289. The World Quest loots scale based on your I lvl just like they do on live up to (as far as I can tell) a max 310 base I lvl. Perhaps they scale even further once you have full 340 I lvl or better. My main on beta is 316 equipped and I get 310 blues from world quests now, but when I first hit max lvl they were I lvl 295.

You're completely misunderstanding the argument because of misreading it. The argument is how can an item titanforge 115 ilvls, not an ilvl 115 item dropping for a character in BFA.

[Eazy]

And Blizzard disagrees with you. You can expect one item of Mythic base level from Normal throughout an entire tier, and around 3~ from heroic. As a Mythic raider this doesn't bother me in the slightest. Oh no, some person that runs Heroic and Normal every week in a normal length tier is going to see MAYBE 4 >decent< items. No guarantee those pieces were even in a usable slot. THE HORROR. It's fun for them, and it doesn't impact me because they're not in my raid. If you feel some scrub having a couple nice pieces here and there is devaluing your accomplishments as a Mythic raider then maybe you're raiding for the wrong reasons.

On the other hand, I feel that if they capped it to 15/20/25/whatever like some people are suggesting that it would be catastrophic for everyone that isn't raiding Mythic (That's most people btw, by a huge margin btw.) - I'd probably unsub over that even though it wouldn't impact me because it would indicate that Blizzard is out of touch. Let the casuals have their lottery. In no way is it "unfair" for those of us that raid Mythic. We get our epic content, we still get our better loot overall, etc.

Whining about Titanforging at this point is so tired. I mean the weekly Mythic+ cache is a FREE Mythic raid level item for even less effort than raiding Heroic/Normal and a much more reliable way of getting good gear.

Imagine being upset because someone in garbage level gear gets a nice piece. Lol.

As I said. I'm not upset or whinning about such a thing. You wasted a lot of time writing that comment.
Btw. people are playing WoW for plenty of reasons, you're not in a position to tell me if I'm raiding for right or wrong reasons, lol, that's ridiculous.

I just said that it's unfair and that's all. You can agree with me or not, but facts are facts.

I'm still probably going to play the game, as long as it's not as stupid as the situation that OP provided.

[Lixion]

You're completely misunderstanding the argument because of misreading it. The argument is how can an item titanforge 115 ilvls, not an ilvl 115 item dropping for a character in BFA.

if you do dungeons with a 120 at 110 and they get gear they can trade it to you, that ilevel would be at the base of 310 so a 325 just a +15 99% chance is that op is just trying to get people riled up.

[RoKPaNda]

As I said. I'm not upset or whinning about such a thing. You wasted a lot of time writing that comment.
Btw. people are playing WoW for plenty of reasons, you're not in a position to tell me if I'm raiding for right or wrong reasons, lol, that's ridiculous.

I just said that it's unfair and that's all. You can agree with me or not, but facts are facts.

I'm still probably going to play the game, as long as it's not as stupid as the situation that OP provided.

Something isn't a fact just because you declare it to be so. Like I said if someone getting a nice item or two PER TIER is such a huge deal breaker for you then you're raiding for the wrong reasons. I wouldn't recruit someone that loot focused.

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Are people really this gullible? The OP lied about the I lvl that gear drops at lvl 110. He just posted a screenshot of an item that is I lvl 325 and it says titanforged. Proves nothing. Only a fool or a someone just trying to stir shit and create chaos would sit here arguing that the OP isn't you-know-what-ing.

This shit is as old as rick rolling. It is not possible for a player to magically get higher I lvl gear than is possible to everyone else in the game. Titanforging is capped to 25 I lvls in BFA. Gear doesn't drop at lvl 115 in BFA anyways. That's literally just above the max base i lvl in WOD as of BFA.

This is not rocket science, and I have launched rockets that I built with my own hands into the upper atmosphere, so I'm not ready to send anything living to space on a rocket I built but I know at least something about this really super complicated and difficult to understand that most people don't have the mental capacity for.

If op said an item that is base 115 dropped at 325 for him, and was then corrected by people actually on the beta that said item doesn't even drop at that lvl for a 110 player, than OP is obviously full of shit.

Also the servers are down so I can't check right now but I vaguely recall that Temple of Sethraliss is not even a dungeon you can queue for at lvl 110. I'm pretty sure there's only 2 dungeons you can even queue for at first and one of them definitely is not that.

Source that TF is capped at 25 ilevels? Does Blizzard know that? Lmao.

[Shakou]

if you do dungeons with a 120 at 110 and they get gear they can trade it to you, that ilevel would be at the base of 310 so a 325 just a +15 99% chance is that op is just trying to get people riled up.

Holy shit, that...could very well be a thing. And if so I want to try this as soon as the servers come back now on a fresh toon, sounds like warmode fun!

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Source that TF is capped at 25 ilevels? Does Blizzard know that? Lmao.

Umm the cap is 25 i lvls over the max drop capable base i lvl on live, genius. Also unlike your self I am on beta. I have seen the best geared people on the beta right in front of me. The highest i lvl piece they had equipped was 365. 25 i lvls higher than base mythic dungeon loot.

[Eazy]

Something isn't a fact just because you declare it to be so.

That's right, but the argumentation I provided before shown that I had right.

Like I said if someone getting a nice item or two PER TIER is such a huge deal breaker for you then you're raiding for the wrong reasons. I wouldn't recruit someone that loot focused.

It's not a huge deal breaker, as long as it stays the way it is now.

[RoKPaNda]

Holy shit, that...could very well be a thing. And if so I want to try this as soon as the servers come back now on a fresh toon, sounds like warmode fun!

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Umm the cap is 25 i lvls over the max drop capable base i lvl on live, genius. Also unlike your self I am on beta. I have seen the best geared people on the beta right in front of me. The highest i lvl piece they had equipped was 365. 25 i lvls higher than base mythic dungeon loot.

You said it was capped at 25 ilevels. That's entirely different from being capped at 25 ilevels over the highest possible base ilevel. Thats your bad for miscommunicating.

Also don't get triggered, I've been in since the first invite wave of Alpha. Calm your shit.

[Shakou]

You said it was capped at 25 ilevels. That's entirely different from being capped at 25 ilevels over the highest possible base ilevel. Thats your bad for miscommunicating.

Also don't get triggered, I've been in since the first invite wave of Alpha. Calm your shit.

I did say that and I haven't seen anything over +25 i lvls. So until I do it doesn't exist.

And no you haven't. You're in here pretending that the OP ot a WOD lvl gear at lvl 110 in bfa content. Shhhh

[Zka]

Thank God someone else got it, I was losing faith in mmo c users.

I was amongst the first to call it out, OP called me clueless who clearly doesn't play beta. Obviously we have some... interesting users around here

[RoKPaNda]

I did say that and I haven't seen anything over +25 i lvls. So until I do it doesn't exist.

And no you haven't. You're in here pretending that the OP ot a WOD lvl gear at lvl 110 in bfa content. Shhhh

You're truly nuts you know that right? I didn't comment on the OP's claim at all, just your incorrect claim about some imaginary cap on Titanforging that you've still not shown a source for other than "lol I've not seen it" - My imagination must be amazing since I've imagined my entire time playing the Alpha then.