ABC: Michael Cohen’s Lawyers Set To Ditch Him In Criminal Probe

[Dontrike]

Giuliani: I checked, he's not flipping--not that we even care!

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewi...rating-mueller

"'He’s not cooperating, nor do we care because the President did nothing wrong,” Giuliani said. “We’re very comfortable, if he cooperates there’s nothing he can cooperate about with regard to President Trump.'”

My god, Trump somehow found another geriatric child. This is hilarious "he didn't flip, but even if he did, which he didn't, he can't harm Trump in any way, but don't focus on when Trump flipped out over this and how it make him seem guilty, because he didn't do anything wrong and that behavior is normal in innocent people."

[Bullettime]

One of the things I read (that I can't find atm) said Cohen was reportedly looking for an attorney with close ties to the Manhattan US Attorneys office.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...213115049.html

Cohen looking for lawyers specializing in plea deals. His previous firm didn't handle those as well as the experts.

Cohen is flipping.

[Daethz]

what crime? seriously, that he gave stormy Daniels $130k?
Maybe he should sue her to get that money back.

And why is mueller delving into this completely unrelated situation?
biggest overstep in judicial history, its like someone elected mueller god-king of the justice system and put him above the law.

[zorkuus]

what crime? seriously, that he gave stormy Daniels $130k?

That he may have used campaign money for it, which is illegal.

Why are you worried about an investigation if he's innocent? An investigation would clear him if so.

[tyrlaan]

what crime? seriously, that he gave stormy Daniels $130k?
Maybe he should sue her to get that money back.

And why is mueller delving into this completely unrelated situation?
biggest overstep in judicial history, its like someone elected mueller god-king of the justice system and put him above the law.

Do Trump supporters go out of their way to stay uninformed? Or is Faux News just this effective?

[Dontrike]

what crime? seriously, that he gave stormy Daniels $130k?
Maybe he should sue her to get that money back.

And why is mueller delving into this completely unrelated situation?
biggest overstep in judicial history, its like someone elected mueller god-king of the justice system and put him above the law.

The overstep is you forgetting that Trump might have used campaign funds to pay her, which is illegal, but it's not surprising that you are okay with corruption. It's hilarious you think that of Mueller though when the only o we that are fuming about him are Trump and the zealots.

[Lothar from accounting]

The overstep is you forgetting that Trump might have used campaign funds to pay her, which is illegal, but it's not surprising that you are okay with corruption. It's hilarious you think that of Mueller though when the only o we that are fuming about him are Trump and the zealots.

Never mind the fact that Mueller isn't the one investigating Cohen anyway, when that info came up he passed it along to others as it was outside the scope of his investigation.

[Noxx79]

what crime? seriously, that he gave stormy Daniels $130k?
Maybe he should sue her to get that money back.

And why is mueller delving into this completely unrelated situation?
biggest overstep in judicial history, its like someone elected mueller god-king of the justice system and put him above the law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeac...f_Bill_Clinton
You were saying?

Now tell me what Bill's impeachment had to do with whitewater?

The republicans set this precedent, no way they can weasel out of this now.

[Levelfive]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/lotta-discoverin

"The government has recovered 731 pages of encrypted text messages from the devices seized from Michael Cohen – from WhatsApp and Signal. They’ve also reassembled 16 pages of documents from inside Cohen’s paper shredder. (Paper Shredder best practices fail.) They’re still working on one of the Blackberries they seized."

Link to the letter itself: https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...52-Letter.html

[Bullettime]

And Cohen's lawyer also lost the bid for the gag order against Avenatti.

Cohen is getting fucked every which way and Avenatti is rubbing salt in the wound on Twitter.

[Deja Thoris]

what crime? seriously, that he gave stormy Daniels $130k?
Maybe he should sue her to get that money back.

And why is mueller delving into this completely unrelated situation?
biggest overstep in judicial history, its like someone elected mueller god-king of the justice system and put him above the law.

If lots of his actions weren't criminal hed have nothing to worry about would he?

At what point does the penny actually drop with you that all people in Trumps orbit and Trump himself are dirty criminal scammers (and you're falling for it, does that make you a zealot or an idiot? Or both)

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Do Trump supporters go out of their way to stay uninformed? Or is Faux News just this effective?

Well they used to. Now they just live in an echo chamber with no effort. Only social media sites they agree with, only radio shows they agree with, only TV channels they agree with. NEVER listen to ANYTHING that isn't exactly what you want to hear.

[Lenonis]

And why is mueller delving into this completely unrelated situation?
biggest overstep in judicial history, its like someone elected mueller god-king of the justice system and put him above the law.

If Trump is innocent then you have nothing to worry about.

[Stormspark]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...213115049.html

Cohen looking for lawyers specializing in plea deals. His previous firm didn't handle those as well as the experts.

Cohen is flipping.

BWAHAHAHAHA. *gasp* *choke*
HAHAHAHAAHA.

Someone make it stop. Oh man. It will be karmic as hell if someone flips on Trump and puts him in jail, simply because Trump threw them under the bus. Self fulfilling prophecy at its finest.

[alexw]

BWAHAHAHAHA. *gasp* *choke*
HAHAHAHAAHA.

Someone make it stop. Oh man. It will be karmic as hell if someone flips on Trump and puts him in jail, simply because Trump threw them under the bus. Self fulfilling prophecy at its finest.

If Trump had any brains at all, the moment the first one of his underlings got into trouble he should have paid 100% of their court fees, helped them in all ways legally possible, and via one way or another got the message across that even if they were convicted they would not be doing much time (via a pardon). No one would have then talked and Mueller would have been stonewalled months ago.

But this is stupidgate so that was never going to happen.

[Bullettime]

If Trump had any brains at all, the moment the first one of his underlings got into trouble he should have paid 100% of their court fees, helped them in all ways legally possible, and via one way or another got the message across that even if they were convicted they would not be doing much time (via a pardon). No one would have then talked and Mueller would have been stonewalled months ago.

But this is stupidgate so that was never going to happen.

And if nothing else, Trump should have defended Cohen to the death. Cohen flipping is super bad news since he's the guy who knows where the bodies are buried.

Having a hired thug do all your dirty work for decades then suddenly throwing them in the bus is stupidity of biblical proportions.

[Breccia]

Cohen is getting fucked every which way and Avenatti is rubbing salt in the wound on Twitter.

How bad could it --

"See below - just filed in the search warrant case. The second and third bullets could pose a huge problem for Mr. Cohen and ultimately Mr. Trump (especially the third bullet)!!BTW, so much for encryption protection! #Basta"

(links this document)

Okay, that's pretty standard taunting, but nothing out of the ordi--

"BREAKING: The Delta Sigma Phi fraternity and others have been illegally posting naked videos of innocent young women on a secret Facebook page called the “Dog Pound.” Here is the lawsuit we just filed to end this disgusting behavior."

Ooookay, that's pretty nonstandard. But it's not like, I dunno, he's Alex Jones' divorce lawyer or --

"In light of recent press reports: We were previously approached by Kelly Jones, the ex-wife of Alex Jones, regarding potential representation but we have not pursued the representation as we generally do not handle custody matters."

...

(throws up hands)

(walks away)

[Grapemask]

I have heard stories of lawyers telling people "look, I'll take your case, but it's a clear loser and will hurt my professional cred, so, pay me $10,000 before I do anything at all".

Mostly unrelated side note because this is totally true, and not just for criminal justice, but for literally everything involving a lawyer. Nearly the entire American public has this idea that if you have a problem, you can get a lawyer and fight your case - but in reality, getting a lawyer is kind of tough. Even ignoring the myth that everyone can just get a public defender in criminal cases (there are stipulations, beginning with the "if you can't afford one" clause), lawyers generally only take cases if they think they can win and make a tidy profit off of it. Even winning isn't enough unless you've got a novel case that'll look good for them. And if your case itself won't give them that profit, they'll want it off of you.

I have a family member that had a problem with her house and insurance fraud pulled by her realtor. Would have been an open and shut easy win - but she couldn't find a single lawyer in town that would take the case because it wasn't profitable enough for them, unless she paid nearly as much in fees as she already lost from the situation. She was forced to take the loss and now lives in semi-poverty with a bankruptcy. America!

[Masark]

If Trump is innocent then you have nothing to worry about.

But it doesn't matter that he's innocent! The DeEp StAtE will convict him of something!

[Kujako]

If Trump is innocent then you have nothing to worry about.

Trump did nothing wrong! But if he did, it wasn't illegal. But if it was, he couldn't be charged. But if he could, he couldn't be prosecuted. But if he were, he could just pardon himself.

These are the claims of someone who says they're innocent.