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    how do u feel about human rights?

    do u think they are good? bad?

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    Not good. It goes against nature itself and leads to degeneration at worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    What the fuck kind of pointless question is this?

    Anyone that answers no is just trying to be an edgy internet troll.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naadir View Post
    Not good. It goes against nature itself and leads to degeneration at worst.
    Wow, talk about an in before.

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    I think they're bullshit. They're a result of western liberal values, they're a western concept that the UN tries to apply universally to societies and cultures that are nothing like western cultures and societies. They act like as if they're the moral arbiters and that everyone who doesn't abide by them are horrible beings, completely ignoring that western liberal values are not the only existing ideas and values and that western liberal ideas and values are not the default nor the right ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    What the fuck kind of pointless question is this?

    Anyone that answers no is just trying to be an edgy internet troll.
    Must be nice to be unaware of the reality of the other peoples that inhabit this planet. A lot of us reject your idea of human rights, especially in practice. Gets even more laughable when people make arguments that relies on people accepting human rights as universal.
    Last edited by Freighter; 2018-06-17 at 03:10 AM.

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    They make me feel all squishy inside.
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

    Just, be kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilian View Post
    If it goes against Nature, then everything humans do (excluding the basics -fucking, shitting, eating-) is against nature.
    I don’t think there is any doubt about this? Even basics go against it. Your shit gets cleaned, you fuck as profession and eat till you explode....

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    There is a difference between rights, and privilege, rights can't be taken away, a privilege can, most people don't have any rights.

    I would say the only thing one has the right to do is die, and that is only because after it's done nothing anybody can do about it anyways.


    As to how I feel, everyone should have the right to make whatever choice they like provided they are of sound mind enough to do so, and they aren't hurting anyone else.
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    More like Human Lefts! Amiright? HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

    But seriously, what kind of pointless question is this. Unless you are a backwards moron, basic human rights are something all people should be in favour of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    I think they're bullshit. They're a result of western liberal values, they're a western concept that the UN tries to apply universally to societies and cultures that are nothing like western cultures and societies. They act like as if they're the moral arbiters and that everyone who doesn't abide by them are horrible beings, completely ignoring that western liberal values are not the only existing ideas and values and that western liberal ideas and values are not the default nor the right ones.



    Must be nice to be unaware of the reality of the other peoples that inhabit this planet. A lot of us reject your idea of human rights, especially in practice. Gets even more laughable when people make arguments that relies on people accepting human rights as universal.
    There is a difference between Western "human rights" and basic human rights though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    More like Human Lefts! Amiright? HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

    But seriously, what kind of pointless question is this. Unless you are a backwards moron, basic human rights are something all people should be in favour of.
    How nice of you to label people who don't share your values and ideas as being backwards morons. Want people to listen to you? Don't call them backward morons for not sharing your ideas and values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    There is a difference between Western "human rights" and basic human rights though.
    They are one and the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    I think they're bullshit. They're a result of western liberal values, they're a western concept that the UN tries to apply universally to societies and cultures that are nothing like western cultures and societies. They act like as if they're the moral arbiters and that everyone who doesn't abide by them are horrible beings, completely ignoring that western liberal values are not the only existing ideas and values and that western liberal ideas and values are not the default nor the right ones.



    Must be nice to be unaware of the reality of the other peoples that inhabit this planet. A lot of us reject your idea of human rights, especially in practice. Gets even more laughable when people make arguments that relies on people accepting human rights as universal.
    Just to be clear - do you reject them categorically or simply the western version of them?

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    The weak should fear the strong &c.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    How nice of you to label people who don't share your values and ideas as being backwards morons. Want people to listen to you? Don't call them backward morons for not sharing your ideas and values.

    They are one and the same.
    Well yes. Because they are.

    They aren't one and the same, because basic Rights have been in nearly every civilisation that has ever risen. Basically any Civilisation that has some sort of Law and order has "Basic Rights" because many Laws are created for when someone else infringes on someones right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Well yes. Because they are.

    They aren't one and the same, because basic Rights have been in nearly every civilisation that has ever risen. Basically any Civilisation that has some sort of Law and order has "Basic Rights" because many Laws are created for when someone else infringes on someones right.
    Not agreeing with your ideas and values does not make someone backwards.

    http://www.un.org/en/universal-decla...-human-rights/

    Human rights. Basic human rights. One and the same.

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    Considering they cover things like slavery, torture, and wrongful imprisonment you'd pretty much have to be a monster to wholesale be against them. Being against individual parts you don't agree with I can see. Being against them all outright is just monstrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    Not agreeing with your ideas and values does not make someone backwards.
    Not agreeing with Basic Human Rights is backwards.

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    When it comes to things people shouldn't be allowed to do to each other, torture, slavery mainly, it's fine.

    When it comes to people thinking human rights should be for things other people have to pay to give to others, clean water, food, access to internet, then it's more of an annoying attempt to frame the world they want of all sunshine and rainbows where nothing ever goes wrong. Pure idealism with no thought to actual costs or implementation. And this time they want it to apply everyone in the world, not just their own country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    I think they're bullshit. They're a result of western liberal values, they're a western concept that the UN tries to apply universally to societies and cultures that are nothing like western cultures and societies. They act like as if they're the moral arbiters and that everyone who doesn't abide by them are horrible beings, completely ignoring that western liberal values are not the only existing ideas and values and that western liberal ideas and values are not the default nor the right ones.
    What are your views on human rights?

    I believe that everyone, regardless of ethnicity, age, gender, disability, gender identity, and sexual orientation deserve equal rights. We're all human no matter who we fuck or what color our skin is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    Not agreeing with Basic Human Rights is backwards.
    Most certainly not. See why I call it western imperialism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinro View Post
    I think they're bullshit. They're a result of western liberal values, they're a western concept that the UN tries to apply universally to societies and cultures that are nothing like western cultures and societies. They act like as if they're the moral arbiters and that everyone who doesn't abide by them are horrible beings, completely ignoring that western liberal values are not the only existing ideas and values and that western liberal ideas and values are not the default nor the right ones.



    Must be nice to be unaware of the reality of the other peoples that inhabit this planet. A lot of us reject your idea of human rights, especially in practice. Gets even more laughable when people make arguments that relies on people accepting human rights as universal.
    Which human rights you disagree with and why??

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    Human rights are universal rights. Period. There is no ambiguity in this.

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