Any chance we will see Paladin Zandalari still?

[Lyvefire]

Enough pointing it out for you?

Not at all to be honest since you're still repeating "they feel different" without ever actually progressing into answering how.

At this point I can only assume that your opinion is simply just how you "feel" and that you can't even consider the idea of justifying it beyond that. Therefore i consider continuing this to be pointless.

You do you I guess.

[Alanar]

With Zandalari and Kul Tirans seemingly brought into the expansion later, it seems more likely than before that we might get playable Zandalari Prelates. It gives time for the Zandalar story to unfold and for there to be a fix to the whole Rezan situation before Zandalari become playable.

This is most likely the best awnser, the story isn't finnished yet so we will see

[Mellrod]

From Loa. Loas can grant various powers, Shadra can grant both shadow and holy ones at the same time for example. Zanza can grant arcane powers. Shango power of storm, etc etc.

Also Zandalari are very religious people, their entire city is filled with shrine, having warrior raised to defend the temples and guard royal family isn't at all strange.

That wouldn't make sense for paladins though. Troll priests, sure, but when I imagine paladins, i'm imagining characters like Tirion, Turalion, Maraad, Liadrin, etc. It's hard to envision trolls fitting that same mold. The paladin fantasy just doesn't seem to fit well with the concept of trolls in general. If you say they should be paladins because some are warriors and some are religious, with that logic Night Elves should also be paladins, so too should Gnomes, Goblins, etc. I get that Zandalari have loa, but they are totally different from Naaru and the Light.

I think instead of Zandalari for a new horde paladin, Mag'har Orcs would be a better fit. In their lore, many of AU Draenor's orcs had the light forced on them by the Lightbound Draenei, a faction of zealots lead by Yrel (which probably part of why they are already able to become priests). A small few Orcs willingly chose to embrace the light as well. This concept can be much more easily stretched (over trolls with a weird Loa-Naaru hybrid) to say that some of these Orcs who were converted forcefully or willingly (or perhaps brainwashed on the Light since childhood, as this is 35 years into AU Draenor's future) took the steps to become paladins rather than just priests.

[Dalheim]

Not really, they already do that but without bothering to name them.

Zandalari Druids are actually Dinomancers.

Not true. Even one on the Zanchuli Council is called ''Wardruid'', so obviously they are called druids. Dinomancer is probably not full on druids.

[Venziir]

I think they will be a thing but not at launch. I think they'll become available in a later patch when new lore gets added to support it.

Zandalari themselves won't be obtainable at launch

[Ramz]

No, go play alliance if you don't want to play blood elves or tauren paladin.(yes same damn logic as ion with High elves)

they probly will though because otherwise there wont be a bloody end to it.

I just hope that we get kul tiran shamans to counter balance it,

That reasoning is so silly I don't even.

Asking for one more class option is completely different than asking for a race that only difference is eye colour. Those are two completely different things.

And about what "balance" you're talking about? Alliance with dark irons already have 4 shaman choices.

[Venziir]

Not true. Even one on the Zanchuli Council is called ''Wardruid'', so obviously they are called druids. Dinomancer is probably not full on druids.

The Zandalari druids are refered to as Raptari, just like the paladins are called Prelates or the AU scouts were called Rengari. Dinomancers seems to be more like caretakers or Dino-priests

[Dalheim]

Tauren paladins make no sense to you and aren't supported by the lore, but Zandalari somehow are?

Uhm, they are. They are called Prelates, not paladins, and they've been around probably faaaar longer, lorewise, than human and dwarf paladin, considering the Zandalari has existed longer than them.

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The Zandalari druids are refered to as Raptari, just like the paladins are called Prelates or the AU scouts were called Rengari. Dinomancers seems to be more like caretakers or Dino-priests

Isn't the Raptari just the group who follows Gonk?

[Venziir]

Uhm, they are. They are called Prelates, not paladins, and they've been around probably faaaar longer, lorewise, than human and dwarf paladin, considering the Zandalari has existed longer than them.

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Isn't the Raptari just the group who follows Gonk?

Possibly, but doesn't that apply to all the Zandalari druids? Like the prelates revere Rezan and the priests revere Paku.

[Ramz]

That wouldn't make sense for paladins though. Troll priests, sure, but when I imagine paladins, i'm imagining characters like Tirion, Turalion, Maraad, Liadrin, etc. It's hard to envision trolls fitting that same mold. The paladin fantasy just doesn't seem to fit well with the concept of trolls in general. If you say they should be paladins because some are warriors and some are religious, with that logic Night Elves should also be paladins, so too should Gnomes, Goblins, etc. I get that Zandalari have loa, but they are totally different from Naaru and the Light.

I don't see how Trolls are worse choice than blood elves or humans. Belves only became paladins because they forced Naaru to lend them it's powers. They didn't had any culture for training paladins at all.Humans only became paladins, because orcs forced priests to get hold on sword, and they're not that big tradition either.

Zandalari is completely different case. They have centuries of culture around Loa Worship. And for Zandalari Rezan was the most important. Loa of the Authority, strenght and Light.

Trolls have culture for channeling powers of their deities. The also are training since very childhood for martial prowless, even Talanji shows that she is no stranger to close combat, and she is a priestess.

In City that is filled with temples, shrines etc it isn't really strange to make a caste of holy warriors. It's completely different than your typical human archetype. And yet it captures all what class should represent, so discipline, order, devotion, strenght and nobility. Zandalari have it all.



Prelates are the chosen of the Loa and the ones that are trained from the very childhood, they're located in Zocalo, place in which only those that are favored by Loa may thread.

I think instead of Zandalari for a new horde paladin, Mag'har Orcs would be a better fit.

And no MAg'har wouldn't be better fit. Zandalaris have centuries of actual practice, the reason why MAg'har are playable was because they denied light.

This concept can be much more easily stretched (over trolls with a weird Loa-Naaru hybrid) to say that some of these Orcs who were converted forcefully or willingly (or perhaps brainwashed on the Light since childhood, as this is 35 years into AU Draenor's future) took the steps to become paladins rather than just priests.

Whut? What Loa-Naaru Hybrid? Rezan is Typical Loa God, that has been part of Zandalari culture for centuries. You're really reaching here.

[Kithelle]

Any chance? It's almost 99% certain, Ion teased it in Q&A. When someone asked about them, Ion said something around: "I won't tell you now, watch and see how Zandalari questiline will progress in 8.1". To say something like and don't introduce them in 8.1, Ion would have to be troll of the centur.. ok, now when I think about it chances for Zandalari paladins are around 90%.

Well Ion is a troll...so who knows.

[Kpmk]

In the timeline of the lore, I guess? But in the real world it's no less of a retcon than Sunwalkers or Blood Knights.

I'm all for allowing just about any race/class combo, but saying cow pallies don't make sense while asking for troll pallies is just silly.

I dunno, my tauren pally has always just felt silly. If they want to retcon to get more combos I'm all for it too. But I just don't get that from zandalari. They just make more sense to me and look really good in pally gear. Tauren pallys look ridiculous. And the difference is they had troll pallys in game before they decided zandalari was going to be a race.

[Kithelle]

That wouldn't make sense for paladins though. Troll priests, sure, but when I imagine paladins, i'm imagining characters like Tirion, Turalion, Maraad, Liadrin, etc. It's hard to envision trolls fitting that same mold. The paladin fantasy just doesn't seem to fit well with the concept of trolls in general. If you say they should be paladins because some are warriors and some are religious, with that logic Night Elves should also be paladins, so too should Gnomes, Goblins, etc. I get that Zandalari have loa, but they are totally different from Naaru and the Light.

I think instead of Zandalari for a new horde paladin, Mag'har Orcs would be a better fit. In their lore, many of AU Draenor's orcs had the light forced on them by the Lightbound Draenei, a faction of zealots lead by Yrel (which probably part of why they are already able to become priests). A small few Orcs willingly chose to embrace the light as well. This concept can be much more easily stretched (over trolls with a weird Loa-Naaru hybrid) to say that some of these Orcs who were converted forcefully or willingly (or perhaps brainwashed on the Light since childhood, as this is 35 years into AU Draenor's future) took the steps to become paladins rather than just priests.

Because it makes more sense that the allied Mag'har...who left Draenor because of the Draenei light zealots decide to say "Hey...we left because we don't want to convert to the light, so lets convert to the light!" than a race that has established lore of following the light, or something of the sort?

[Blizzard Moneybot]

I wan't to make a paladin and i play horde, but every time it ry to do so i just cant because:
1) I don't like playing Belves
2) Tauren Paladins makes no sense

So i would really like another Horde race available for a pally, and Zandalari would be absolutely great (and as far as i know it's also supported by lore).

Do you think Blizzard will change their mind on this?

Play a blood elf, play a cow, deal with it and don't play a paladin, just like those of us who despise humans, shortfat humans and space goats don't have an option for Paladin.

[Syegfryed]

Play a blood elf, play a cow, deal with it and don't play a paladin, just like those of us who despise humans, shortfat humans and space goats don't have an option for Paladin.

who hurt you

[MrKnubbles]

Zandalari themselves won't be obtainable at launch

I should clarify. I don't think Paladin will be a playable race for Zandalari when they are first released.

[Magnagarde]

who hurt you

Shandris Feathermoon with her engagement to Rambo.

[ohwell]

Zandalari actually make more in-game sense than Tauren Paladin did before they were implemented.

With Tauren Paladins, pretty much no lore or basis existed for them to be paladins before they were given paladins and lore was created around it (technically the same for BEs too).

Zandalari Paladin NPCs existed long before Zandalari were playable.

I mean so did Zandalari Demon Hunters.

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Play a blood elf, play a cow, deal with it and don't play a paladin, just like those of us who despise humans, shortfat humans and space goats don't have an option for Paladin.

You have the option of being horde.

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Because it makes more sense that the allied Mag'har...who left Draenor because of the Draenei light zealots decide to say "Hey...we left because we don't want to convert to the light, so lets convert to the light!" than a race that has established lore of following the light, or something of the sort?

That'd be like Draenei Warlocks.

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That wouldn't make sense for paladins though. Troll priests, sure, but when I imagine paladins, i'm imagining characters like Tirion, Turalion, Maraad, Liadrin, etc. It's hard to envision trolls fitting that same mold. The paladin fantasy just doesn't seem to fit well with the concept of trolls in general. If you say they should be paladins because some are warriors and some are religious, with that logic Night Elves should also be paladins, so too should Gnomes, Goblins, etc. I get that Zandalari have loa, but they are totally different from Naaru and the Light.

I think instead of Zandalari for a new horde paladin, Mag'har Orcs would be a better fit. In their lore, many of AU Draenor's orcs had the light forced on them by the Lightbound Draenei, a faction of zealots lead by Yrel (which probably part of why they are already able to become priests). A small few Orcs willingly chose to embrace the light as well. This concept can be much more easily stretched (over trolls with a weird Loa-Naaru hybrid) to say that some of these Orcs who were converted forcefully or willingly (or perhaps brainwashed on the Light since childhood, as this is 35 years into AU Draenor's future) took the steps to become paladins rather than just priests.

Maghar are able to be priests because of the Shadowmoon Clan who were priests in WoD.

[Deleted]

no. we won't