[EU] Brexit negotiations at a standstill

[Kallisto]

From world empire to an insignificant little island within a 100 years. That's pretty impressive tbh.

Also interesting that their 2 largest former enemies, France and Britain, basically tell them what to do, or else.

Britain is enemt or britain.

Actually that makes sense. It's like Cats and Dogs, English and Scots, Scots and Scots.

[Noradin]

Britain is enemt or britain.

Actually that makes sense. It's like Cats and Dogs, English and Scots, Scots and Scots.

He probably meant to write "France and Germany", not "France and Britain".

[Demolitia]

JD Wetherspoon is one of the largest pub chains in the UK and in many ways a market leader. However, make no mistake, this is little more than a, clever, publicity stunt - Champagne is a very low volume product for JDW and the majority of their high volume, high GP drinks lines (draught and bottled Lagers, wine, etc) are not from the EU anyway. Although I do wonder whether their anti-EU policy will apply to Guinness.

They probably are, but their press release specifically says 880 pubs. It might be a market leader but that still represents less than a third of all the pubs in London alone. Even if Champagne, wines, and liquors came from mainland EU, it would still not matter all that much.
More Dribbles nonsense as usual.
It also remains to be seen what import tax the uk will apply to Australian wines.

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tories now the anti buisness party

[dribbles]

They probably are, but their press release specifically says 880 pubs. It might be a market leader but that still represents less than a third of all the pubs in London alone. Even if Champagne, wines, and liquors came from mainland EU, it would still not matter all that much.
More Dribbles nonsense as usual.
It also remains to be seen what import tax the uk will apply to Australian wines.

Fun facts

"But one product Martin said could be impacted is Swedish cider Kopparberg, which he claimed Wetherspoons sold more of than the whole of Sweden."

Be a shame, but England makes some great ciders... and....

“We serve more than 50 million cups of Lavazza coffee annually and we have proven that our pubs are the perfect place to enjoy a great cup of coffee throughout the day.”

Be a shame, but no need to buy Italian coffee...

Some perspective indeed.

[Pann]

They probably are, but their press release specifically says 880 pubs. It might be a market leader but that still represents less than a third of all the pubs in London alone. Even if Champagne, wines, and liquors came from mainland EU, it would still not matter all that much.
More Dribbles nonsense as usual.
It also remains to be seen what import tax the uk will apply to Australian wines.

Not all pubs are equal, a typical Wetherspoon pub is far busier than the average pub in the UK. As I said it is a publicity stunt.

Whatever import duty is imposed is likely to pale in comparison the overall tax on a bottle of wine.

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“We serve more than 50 million cups of Lavazza coffee annually and we have proven that our pubs are the perfect place to enjoy a great cup of coffee throughout the day.”

Be a shame, but no need to buy Italian coffee...

Some perspective indeed.

What he is not telling you is that the average cup of coffee costs JDW pennies.

[Pann]

If you fancy a pie, a pint and a fight, JD Wetherspoons is the place for you.

In fairness I think the same could be said about many city centre pubs across the UK.

[Demolitia]

Fun facts

"But one product Martin said could be impacted is Swedish cider Kopparberg, which he claimed Wetherspoons sold more of than the whole of Sweden."

Be a shame, but England makes some great ciders... and....

“We serve more than 50 million cups of Lavazza coffee annually and we have proven that our pubs are the perfect place to enjoy a great cup of coffee throughout the day.”

Be a shame, but no need to buy Italian coffee...

Some perspective indeed.

I couldn't bother looking for Kopparberg's sales by country. What you post in itself doesn't mean the UK is their main market. But even if what you seem to imply is true, one cider maker in Sweden suffering from this decision is still anecdotal and doesn't affect whole sectors in Europe, as you seemed to imply in the post I replied to originally.

[Deleted]

Democracy 101 for British Citizens.

The idea of democracy, is to elect a person you know and you trust to take the best decisions for you. This person can make the right decisions because he/she has a lot of information at their disposal, which isn't available to you as a mere citizen. This person also has a lot of counsel from the highest professionals in each branch. This person also must consider international politics and relationships with foreign partners. Obviously this person is highly and incredibly more qualified to make a good decision for the country, than you as a citizen.

There is also a full-retard way of democracy. This system involves putting Yay! and Nay! buttons in every household, so that every citizen can personally vote on whatever the Parliament submits to vote. This is a stupid system because the average citizen is uninformed at best, and very stupid at worst.

You, Brits, went full-retard.

[Demolitia]

Not all pubs are equal, a typical Wetherspoon pub is far busier than the average pub in the UK. As I said it is a publicity stunt.

Whatever import duty is imposed is likely to pale in comparison the overall tax on a bottle of wine.

Busy as they might be, there seemed to be 50.000 pubs in the UK. It's just my opinion but I still can't believe 880 busy pubs will affect many producers in the EU. A few? Sure, but it won't make a difference overall.
Agreed on the import duty. Hell, if you go to a supermarket anywhere in Europe today the prices are not much higher than they are in Australia.

[Pann]

Busy as they might be, there seemed to be 50.000 pubs in the UK. It's just my opinion but I still can't believe 880 busy pubs will affect many producers in the EU. A few? Sure, but it won't make a difference overall.
Agreed on the import duty. Hell, if you go to a supermarket anywhere in Europe today the prices are not much higher than they are in Australia.

The average UK pub will turn over around £5k per week, a medium size Wetherspoon's will do that per day with the larger pubs pushing £100k per week not only that but they are in a position to influence the UK drinks market. With that said from having quick look at what they sell the majority of drinks from the EU are supplied by large multi-nationals, like InBev and Heineken, and I would imagine that their relationships would be largely unaffected.

[Demolitia]

The average UK pub will turn over around £5k per week, a medium size Wetherspoon's will do that per day with the larger pubs pushing £100k per week not only that but they are in a position to influence the UK drinks market. With that said from having quick look at what they sell the majority of drinks from the EU are supplied by large multi-nationals, like InBev and Heineken, and I would imagine that their relationships would be largely unaffected.

I understand they would have power on smaller local breweries, but certainly not on Erdinger who brews 180 millions litres a year, let alone, as you say, InBev or Heineken. Quite the opposite would happen with them.

[Deleted]

current brexit briefings in foriegn offices around the world :

the economy is gonna tank
the British Government isn't interested in telling people they got it wrong
worst kind of inflation
Brexit ends up not helping people
leavers are absolutely terrified

farage getting looked at for insider trading

[Beazy]

farage getting looked at for insider trading

Is this true?

[Demolitia]

current brexit briefings in foriegn offices around the world :

the economy is gonna tank
the British Government isn't interested in telling people they got it wrong
worst kind of inflation
Brexit ends up not helping people
leavers are absolutely terrified

farage getting looked at for insider trading

source or it didn't happen Unless it's on facebook.

[Shadowmelded]

Is this true?

No investigation announced but there's reporting by bloomberg about it;

Farage, again, linked to shady shit wrt Brexit.

[ranzino]

Democracy 101 for British Citizens.

The idea of democracy, is to elect a person you know and you trust to take the best decisions for you. This person can make the right decisions because he/she has a lot of information at their disposal, which isn't available to you as a mere citizen. This person also has a lot of counsel from the highest professionals in each branch. This person also must consider international politics and relationships with foreign partners. Obviously this person is highly and incredibly more qualified to make a good decision for the country, than you as a citizen.

There is also a full-retard way of democracy. This system involves putting Yay! and Nay! buttons in every household, so that every citizen can personally vote on whatever the Parliament submits to vote. This is a stupid system because the average citizen is uninformed at best, and very stupid at worst.

You, Brits, went full-retard.

afaik the idea of democracy started on a greek agora and it was a direct rule of those involved. the "full retard" way was very common.
your "perfect" example relies on the choice of the representative by citizens without any knowledge how much the representative really knows. and unfortunately the representative represents anybody in a 5 km radius, with lot of different opinions around.

[Noradin]

afaik the idea of democracy started on a greek agora and it was a direct rule of those involved. the "full retard" way was very common.
your "perfect" example relies on the choice of the representative by citizens without any knowledge how much the representative really knows. and unfortunately the representative represents anybody in a 5 km radius, with lot of different opinions around.

Well their system was even more retarded than giving everone a yay and a nay button for everything: They had everyone cast a vote on everything and then they picked one of those votes at random.

[Demolitia]

afaik the idea of democracy started on a greek agora and it was a direct rule of those involved. the "full retard" way was very common.
your "perfect" example relies on the choice of the representative by citizens without any knowledge how much the representative really knows. and unfortunately the representative represents anybody in a 5 km radius, with lot of different opinions around.

You mean like the people who pick the president in the US today?

[Nigel Tufnel]

[B]This person also must consider international politics and relationships with foreign partners. Obviously this person is highly and incredibly more qualified to make a good decision for the country, than you as a citizen.

I'll translate:

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