New Queen of stormwind

[Deleted]

Isn't he attracted to draenei females?

Blizzard, being very much Disney-like, doesn't approve of inter-species nor even inter-racial relationships.

[Dellis0991]

Isn't he attracted to draenei females?

Yeah and dwarves too.....he got a thing for big asses.....Mah man!

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

People complain she's not royalty, and so on... but you all fail to understand something vital.

Anduin already stands at the top, basically the ruler of all races that's joined the alliance. He doesn't need to marry for benefits, because he has all the benefits already. He can marry whoever he pleases.

Also him marrying anyone form another sovereign alliance nation could possibly irk the rest, as it would look like predilection for one other nation over the other. So Tess and Jaina (or Tandred?) are out of the question.

Taelia is relevant in terms of lineage and dedication to make her well loved by pretty much all humans, but has no real politcal power to feel like a threat to every other nation.

[Ealyssa]

Isn't he attracted to draenei females?

Not anymore nope, Golden/Blizzard washed it away sadly. I would love to see a blue skinned queen.

[Shoggoth]

Not anymore nope, Golden/Blizzard washed it away sadly. I would love to see a blue skinned queen.

Fuck's sake.

[EbaumsTipster]

Not anymore nope, Golden/Blizzard washed it away sadly. I would love to see a blue skinned queen.

Fuck's sake.

Anyone that thinks that a character only likes one race because it was the first they mentioned in a book needs their head checked. Anduin has liked both Draenei and Dwarves before.

[Toppy]

I disagree.

Kul'tiras and Gilneas are both members of the Alliance (Or will be, shortly). Lordaeron is a massive swath of land that currently belongs to the Horde, and is the birthright of a neutral character (Calia Menethil). If Taelia marries Anduin -and- is Calia's daughter, the lands of Lordaeron (Everything from the Greymane Wall to Quel'thalas and from Tirisfal to the Eastern Plaguelands) officially becomes land held by the Alliance through marriage.

That would be a MASSIVE shift in political power held by the Alliance, even if it's currently 'in name only'. It would also bring Lordaeron back into the Alliance which would be a major "Fuck Yeah!" moment for pretty much every human that survived the Third War.

Not really. Lordaeron fell, that's a simple fact. It fell, was conquered by demons, reconquered by the undead. As of now the Alliance has full ownership of the land due to conquering it from the Horde. Anduin -already has- Lordaeron. He may choose to give it to Calia, but it's his to give, not hers. Nor does having Lordaeron suddenlly make it a significant power again since 99% of its population is dead or undead.

Saying that Calia still own Lordaeron is like saying the various lands that were taken from the Trolls, still belong to the trolls.

[Steampunkette]

They are, they can leave it, they are stil independent bodies. This is why betaboyking should secure their thrones and people for himself. I mean, we don't know of biaches even inherit in Lordaeron. Realistically it shouldn't be. Also in the same manner Talia can bend the knee and offer those lands to betaboyking and make part of the Alliance. While he can do da better wedding and get real living people, not some undead rejects.

"Beta"... yeah... you're one of -those- guys...

Anyway: Yeah. Gilneas or Kul'tiras could toss Anduin the middle finger and leave the Alliance. So could Stormwind. The people could rise up under a charismatic leader, overthrow Anduin, kick his soldiers and followers out of the city, and declare themselves an independent state.

Even if he marries Taelia or Tess or Jaina the different kingdoms could bounce in the same way. Hell, Gilneas has already had one civil war, right?

But since Gilneas is and Kul'tiras will be a part of the Alliance, a political marriage to them ultimately gets the Alliance fuck-all. While a political marriage to Taelia (If she is Calia's daughter) secures huge tracts of land.

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Not really. Lordaeron fell, that's a simple fact. It fell, was conquered by demons, reconquered by the undead. As of now the Alliance has full ownership of the land due to conquering it from the Horde. Anduin -already has- Lordaeron. He may choose to give it to Calia, but it's his to give, not hers. Nor does having Lordaeron suddenlly make it a significant power again since 99% of its population is dead or undead.

Saying that Calia still own Lordaeron is like saying the various lands that were taken from the Trolls, still belong to the trolls.

The Alliance doesn't have ownership of Tirisfal, much less all of Lordaeron. The glades are the only part where the Forsaken were defeated and scattered, but because it's an indefensible smoking ruin it has become a no-man's land.

Calia has a claim to it, just like the trolls have a claim to Stromgarde. It's a tenuous claim that would need to be backed with steel or flesh, rather than just blood, but it exists.

Even Anduin in Before the Storm is all

“The kingdom of Lordaeron is your birthright. Few would be willing to let go of such a title and the power it would grant them,” he pressed. “I understand your reasoning, but many do not. You may have some nationalist champions rising, ready to take the city in your name.”

and

The throne was hers by every right. Yet was it worth war should she express a desire to claim it?

[Fetus Rex]

"Beta"... yeah... you're one of -those- guys...

Anyway: Yeah. Gilneas or Kul'tiras could toss Anduin the middle finger and leave the Alliance. So could Stormwind. The people could rise up under a charismatic leader, overthrow Anduin, kick his soldiers and followers out of the city, and declare themselves an independent state.

Even if he marries Taelia or Tess or Jaina the different kingdoms could bounce in the same way. Hell, Gilneas has already had one civil war, right?

But since Gilneas is and Kul'tiras will be a part of the Alliance, a political marriage to them ultimately gets the Alliance fuck-all. While a political marriage to Taelia (If she is Calia's daughter) secures huge tracts of land.

And what kind of guy you be? Cosplayer or sumtin?

He be beta cryineverytim.

Yes, but it would be far more difficult for stormwind pleb to rebel then for kul or gilneas to hop da ship and bounce leagues away.

Yeah, sure, but with da power of Stormwind they would smash da rebellion. It is wiser to secure what you have then aim at empty lands.

It increases Stormwind personal power over other Alliance races in case of split in the future. Anduin's beta sonw ould bang some chick from the reaming kingdom and stormwind, gilneas and kultiras would become one kingdom of stormind. Faction in itself, ready to put da tall finger in them dorf bums.

[Toppy]

"Beta"... yeah... you're one of -those- guys...

Anyway: Yeah. Gilneas or Kul'tiras could toss Anduin the middle finger and leave the Alliance. So could Stormwind. The people could rise up under a charismatic leader, overthrow Anduin, kick his soldiers and followers out of the city, and declare themselves an independent state.

Even if he marries Taelia or Tess or Jaina the different kingdoms could bounce in the same way. Hell, Gilneas has already had one civil war, right?

But since Gilneas is and Kul'tiras will be a part of the Alliance, a political marriage to them ultimately gets the Alliance fuck-all. While a political marriage to Taelia (If she is Calia's daughter) secures huge tracts of land.

The Alliance is STRICTLY a military alliance. A political marriage to Kul Tiras will gain Stormwind a huge amount of resources and power. A marriage to Tess gets Stormwind nothing unless they conquer and repopulate Gilneas. A marriage related to Lordaeron also gets Stormwind nothing, as Lordaeron is a dead kingdom and the Alliance already has conquered it and all its lands with it likely going to Stormwind unless Anduin is stupid and decides to give it to Calia, since it is his to give, not hers.

In other words:

Gilneas: Nothing gained unless they can retake the lands that Genn still lays claim to.
Kul Tiras: Stormwind becomes the single greatest power in the world by far.
Lordaeron: Nothing gained at all.

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"Beta"... yeah... you're one of -those- guys...

Anyway: Yeah. Gilneas or Kul'tiras could toss Anduin the middle finger and leave the Alliance. So could Stormwind. The people could rise up under a charismatic leader, overthrow Anduin, kick his soldiers and followers out of the city, and declare themselves an independent state.

Even if he marries Taelia or Tess or Jaina the different kingdoms could bounce in the same way. Hell, Gilneas has already had one civil war, right?

But since Gilneas is and Kul'tiras will be a part of the Alliance, a political marriage to them ultimately gets the Alliance fuck-all. While a political marriage to Taelia (If she is Calia's daughter) secures huge tracts of land.

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The Alliance doesn't have ownership of Tirisfal, much less all of Lordaeron. The glades are the only part where the Forsaken were defeated and scattered, but because it's an indefensible smoking ruin it has become a no-man's land.

Calia has a claim to it, just like the trolls have a claim to Stromgarde. It's a tenuous claim that would need to be backed with steel or flesh, rather than just blood, but it exists.

Even Anduin in Before the Storm is all


and

The Horde have entirely been pushed out of Lordaeron at this point, the Alliance has even claimed the plaguelands. Its less a no mans land and more "smoking ruin that is to dangerous due to the plague to claim"

As you said, Calia claimed it, but she can't back it up in anyway while Anduin can. Lordaeron was not claimed in any way shape or form by Calia, the queen who has forsaken her throne until now. She has 0 power and her people are dead. If Lordaeron is repopulated it will be by people of other nations and not her own in a similar way to how Stormwind was made, and would likely largely be done with the Alliances resources.

This is war, land goes to who can hold it. The Menethil family has failed to hold its lands, and therefor it is not theres.

[Toppy]

You're forgetting about Kul Tiras, Gilneas, and Stromgarde.

Gilneas is somewhat questionable as the people were removed from it. Same with Strom. Both of which are less being reclaimed by their own people, and more so by Stormwind: the world police.

[Toppy]

The only human nation that is truly dead at this point is lordaeron and alterac, but alterac in wow is so small i wouldn't even consider it a loss.

Well I mean, wasn't the last remnants of Strom stomped out in Cata and Legion (DK questline)? Even in BfA its pretty much just "Danath and a whole bunch of people not of Strom".

[Deleted]

Does it really matter? Whoever the queen of stormwind will be her raison d'etre and entire character arc will be to progress Anduin's story and further emphasize how good he is. It doesn't matter if it's Taelia, Tess or even fucking Saurfang.

[Sojourner]

Wrathion after he finds out Anduin has a side chick:



On a more on-topic side, I hope Taelia's existence is something more than a factor in Manduin's development. Although having her as a Queen, married to Anduin, with Anduin dying later would make it an interesting arc - plus replace more male leaders in favour of females, as is the current trend (at least with allied races).

[Steampunkette]

The Alliance is STRICTLY a military alliance. A political marriage to Kul Tiras will gain Stormwind a huge amount of resources and power. A marriage to Tess gets Stormwind nothing unless they conquer and repopulate Gilneas. A marriage related to Lordaeron also gets Stormwind nothing, as Lordaeron is a dead kingdom and the Alliance already has conquered it and all its lands with it likely going to Stormwind unless Anduin is stupid and decides to give it to Calia, since it is his to give, not hers.

In other words:

Gilneas: Nothing gained unless they can retake the lands that Genn still lays claim to.
Kul Tiras: Stormwind becomes the single greatest power in the world by far.
Lordaeron: Nothing gained at all.

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The Horde have entirely been pushed out of Lordaeron at this point, the Alliance has even claimed the plaguelands. Its less a no mans land and more "smoking ruin that is to dangerous due to the plague to claim"

As you said, Calia claimed it, but she can't back it up in anyway while Anduin can. Lordaeron was not claimed in any way shape or form by Calia, the queen who has forsaken her throne until now. She has 0 power and her people are dead. If Lordaeron is repopulated it will be by people of other nations and not her own in a similar way to how Stormwind was made, and would likely largely be done with the Alliances resources.

This is war, land goes to who can hold it. The Menethil family has failed to hold its lands, and therefor it is not theres.

The Horde is pushed out of the city of Lordaeron. They're still fighting and holding in Shadowpine Forest, Hillsbrad, and the Plaguelands at Andorhal.

The Alliance doesn't hold Lordaeron. Not even the city, much less the open fields and forests that surround it.

And yeah. Calia can claim it, but can't hold it without either Anduin's help or the armies of the Forsaken under her command. But she does have a claim to it. One that Anduin considers legitimate. And since he's the High King and you're just a forumite, guess whose opinion matters more?

[Nefarious Tea]

You're forgetting about Kul Tiras, Gilneas, and Stromgarde.

Gilneas is gone and its people displaced. The Forsaken destroyed it in Cata (Silverpine Forest questlines for Horde toons). Stromgarde is also gone. It's held by trolls, ogres, and I can't remember if they're Twilight's Hammer or Cult of the Damned. Humans, yes. But definitely not a kingdom and its people. Kul Tiras is still around but calling it a kingdom is a bit of a stretch, not least of which because its youngest scion is Jaina "I'm almost fifty" Proudmoore. It's more like the Iron Islands from ASOIAF... technically independent, but only because even the King doesn't want to deal with their shit.

[Deleted]

he is the high king he is the state

He'll get a tyranny opinion hit, and a prestige hit, which leads to even lower opinion of vassals. And suddenly your uncle is plotting to kill you and there are 5 dangerous faction to overthrow you and your council if filled with malcontents. We've all been there.


OT: Christie needs to play some CK2, it instills the much needed moral values:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFF3F92o_2s

[Rhlor]

He'll get a tyranny opinion hit, and a prestige hit, which leads to even lower opinion of vassals. And suddenly your uncle is plotting to kill you and there are 5 dangerous faction to overthrow you and your council if filled with malcontents. We've all been there.


OT: Christie needs to play some CK2, it instills the much needed moral values:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFF3F92o_2s

Anduin has the power over multiple armies of different nations to maintain control

[Jeina]

Bolvar sent his daughter to Kul Tiras when the Scourge invaded. There's no indication that either he nor she were ever involved with Calia or Southshore.

[dope_danny]

Anduins been waiting for them thicc kul tiras girls. Pandaria gave him a fever.