When will we get playable San'layn?

[FlubberPuddy]

i believe it can happen

but i believe its more likely to not get elves at all

So you don't believe it will happen which was my entire point. Of course anything can happen, just like Blizz can release 10 more elves. Thanks for missing my point still.

[Fetus Rex]

I am completely sure that Calia will be the leader of the Forsaken at some point, and with her we will have the allied race of Holy Undead.Most players of the horde do not want this representation of cartoon villains! they want to go back to how the WCIII horde was

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The Red Blade is a human pirate group operating in Stormheim on the Broken Isles. They were hired by Detheroc disguised as Mathias Shaw to kill Amber Kearnen and have become vampyr under the vrykul Blood-Thane Lucard.
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Red_Blade


vampyr human

I know who they are, I'm saying their lore relevance is much weaker than that of San'layn. They are nothing more than red eyed humans.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Vrykul
thus, not humans but their ancestors



ROFL https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dfc0g8MX0AEPTG9.jpg:large
this is not "bloody" again, stop lying, people don't want monstrous vampires, you don't want monstrous vampires, they want pretty elf vampires

monstrous vampires you can get the natherzin( they do have wings) or even the Blood trolls mutated, but you want those? no, you want elves



it is something new and despised but the factions, allies who kill allies are enemies and they are killed, you don't need to be a genius to figure it out

Dks do not kill their allied all the time, this false, they don't warm their factions, the thing in Legion happened with neutral class halls, and they still get hunted by this



they don't, again, the horde is not the scoure or a shitole you are thinking of, we do not kill out allies to get "power boost"

Warlocks don't use thee souls of the member of the horde

i highly recommend you search and read something about the horde, to stop saying those nonsenses


blood dk is actively a vampire and can have grey skin, san'layn don't have wings neither bat ears, you are making thins ups t fit in your dream

No, i will not be thankful to a evil race join my faction, the faction is not a scourge 2.0 neither is a evil faction

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i believe it can happen

but i believe its more likely to not get elves at all


sure, lets say there is no high el suppoers in disguise *win* *wink*


i know that, i never said they didn't existed, i said they are not marjory and you can count on your fingers

Humans.

It is not pretty either. And I have used it as concept, not definite statement of how they should look. Someone wanted to edit Blood Elf instead of doing whole editing of Prince model to draw face or what not. As I have said, most fan art is pretty dark. Unless you mean tumblr like fangirl images. You can find plenty of siliness such as this.

That is not true at all. Ritual sacrifices are about killing your own for empowerment. Plenty of shady ways. Killing some of the weakest of your allies to get your power up and serve better? Acceptable by me.

They don't get hunter for this. Those order halls were hardly neutral consider where their commanders belong tooo, that is their respective alliances.

DK can have only pale skin. Blood Queen have wings, I can see it being used as racial for San'layn when they become playable. Oh but they do have bat ears.https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sdlka7C_DvY/maxresdefault.jpg as you can see those are not your regular elf ears.

[Syegfryed]

if he wants vampires so much just for being vampires and not because they are elves, I imagine he would accept a vampyr vrykul race

the alliance was asking for vrykul, you could give vrykul vampyr to the alliance and you would have vampires and some "morally gray" in the alliance

exactly, vampire is not exactly a race in wow, but disease, and evryone can get that disease, if you want a vampire you canjusk ask for other race instead of elves

a "vampire race" would be netherzin, or some kind of blood trolls, and those still are hard options to join a faction, would need a heavy retcon

btw, those vrykuls are awesome

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I know who they are, I'm saying their lore relevance is much weaker than that of San'layn. They are nothing more than red eyed humans.

san'layn are nothing moe than red eyed elves too, and their relevance is zero now

Humans.

so we cn say you are a monkey? an autraloptecus,c use you know they are your ancestors?

i already prove they are not humans, don't make hard on yourself

It is not pretty either. .

its an elf

That is not true at all. Ritual sacrifices are about killing your own for empowerment. Plenty of shady ways. Killing some of the weakest of your allies to get your power up and serve better? Acceptable by me.

for you, but not for the horde
again this is not the scourge :^)

They don't get hunter for this. Those order halls were hardly neutral consider where their commanders belong tooo, that is their respective alliances.

their are neutral institutions, and theya re now enemies of the paladins, they are not buddy buddies

DK can have only pale skin. Blood Queen have wings,

same way other udneads have other limbs and the hroses ahve orns and wins, tis the way they were resurect those are exceptions

I can see it being used as racial for San'layn when they become playable. Oh but they do have bat ears.https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sdlka7C_DvY/maxresdefault.jpg as you can see those are not your regular elf ears.

look exactly like blood elf ears, you should look at some pics of bat ears

[Rhlor]

exactly, vampire is not exactly a race in wow, but disease, and evryone can get that disease, if you want a vampire you canjusk ask for other race instead of elves

a "vampire race" would be netherzin, or some kind of blood trolls, and those still are hard options to join a faction, would need a heavy retcon

btw, those vrykuls are awesome

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san'layn are nothing moe than red eyed elves too, and their relevance is zero now


so we cn say you are a monkey? an autraloptecus,c use you know they are your ancestors?

i already prove they are not humans, don't make hard on yourself



its an elf

for you, but not for the horde
again this is not the scourge :^)


their are neutral institutions, and theya re now enemies of the paladins, they are not buddy buddies


same way other udneads have other limbs and the hroses ahve orns and wins, tis the way they were resurect those are exceptions



look exactly like blood elf ears, you should look at some pics of bat ears

yes!!! like gnomeferatu


I am in favor of an vrykul vampyr allied race.

no more elves

[Syegfryed]

So you don't believe it will happen which was my entire point. Of course anything can happen, just like Blizz can release 10 more elves. Thanks for missing my point still.

you are asking me if i believe there is a possibility of then only putting one el in one action and i sid yes i believe, how i miss ? LUL

but its more likely to not get elves anymore

[cparle87]

Wow, there still super salty people doing the whole "the alliance/horde is there for you" childishness.

I don't think they should be added simply because we have enough elves already, but at the same time I would love for them to be added just to spite the people that have an irrational hatred of elves.

I thought that line was majorly cringe the first time I heard it. I knew it would sadly become a meme. Everything bad does now.

[pacotaco]

Wow, there still super salty people doing the whole "the alliance/horde is there for you" childishness.

I think they mostly are resentful ppl that wanted High Elves and didnt accept Blizzard's reasoning. That frase is a twist on Ion "If you want High Elves, the Horde is there for you".

[The Emperor]

I don't know how anyone can take this @Syegfryed fellow seriously, his every argument has been debunked, but he still keeps going on and on, he hates San'layn but he continues to post tirelessly, as if validity of his lame arguments would improve anyhow.

[Fetus Rex]

exactly, vampire is not exactly a race in wow, but disease, and evryone can get that disease, if you want a vampire you canjusk ask for other race instead of elves

a "vampire race" would be netherzin, or some kind of blood trolls, and those still are hard options to join a faction, would need a heavy retcon

btw, those vrykuls are awesome

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san'layn are nothing moe than red eyed elves too, and their relevance is zero now


so we cn say you are a monkey? an autraloptecus,c use you know they are your ancestors?

i already prove they are not humans, don't make hard on yourself



its an elf

for you, but not for the horde
again this is not the scourge :^)


their are neutral institutions, and theya re now enemies of the paladins, they are not buddy buddies


same way other udneads have other limbs and the hroses ahve orns and wins, tis the way they were resurect those are exceptions



look exactly like blood elf ears, you should look at some pics of bat ears

No, they are not. Different appearance, skin color, ears, even fingernails. Not to mention new model would flesh them out even more.

I don't look like an ape, but humans most definitely do look like miniature vrykul.

They are not enemies of the DK in the lore, DK's helped them ith hidden ret pala skin and pala forgave them.

Those are mutations considering their ears.

They don't look like BE ears at all. They are more bat like. Not 1:1 but still. Allied Race inclusion can flesh them out even more.

[FlubberPuddy]

So you're saying you actually believe they will?

you are asking me if i believe there is a possibility of then only putting one el in one action and i sid yes i believe, how i miss ? LUL

but its more likely to not get elves anymore

Good question, idk how you missed either but you did.

[Syegfryed]

Good question, idk how you missed either but you did.

i think you are high or something

I don't know how anyone can take this @Syegfryed fellow seriously, his every argument has been debunked, but he still keeps going on and on, he hates San'layn but he continues to post tirelessly, as if validity of his lame arguments would improve anyhow.

what arguments are been debunked? are you high too? what ones? show then, saying and /quit will not make you right

[Rhlor]

I know who they are, I'm saying their lore relevance is much weaker than that of San'layn. They are nothing more than red eyed humans.

and vampire pale skin
female could look like this

diablo-3-necromancer

[Syegfryed]

No, they are not. Different appearance, skin color, ears, even fingernails. Not to mention new model would flesh them out even more.

they skin or cholor scheme being diferent doens't matter they are still elves, theya re blood elf undeads, if the void elves didn't get new models they will not get too

I don't look like an ape, but humans most definitely do look like miniature vrykul.

it doesn't not matter, vrykuls are not humans, its a canon fact of the lore

They are not enemies of the DK in the lore, DK's helped them ith hidden ret pala skin and pala forgave them.

the point is they do not kill their own allied neither kill their faction members, unlike the vampire elves

They don't look like BE ears at all. They are more bat like. Not 1:1 but still. Allied Race inclusion can flesh them out even more.

sure, they look like night elf ears, bat ears? not

[The Emperor]

i think you are high or something


what arguments are been debunked? are you high too? what ones? show then, saying and /quit will not make you right

Just going to give one example, so that people see how wrong you are.


Now compare their fucking ears. See? You're dense person who doesn't bother to check stuff before wasting everyone else's time with stupid assumptions. Each and every argument against San'layn you ever had has been debinked, and I am not wasting any more of my time to babysit you by telling how they were debunked.

[Fetus Rex]

and vampire pale skin
female could look like this

diablo-3-necromancer

yeah but they look really human, I'm looking for something a little bit on the monster side. I think someone watched to much shitty goth porn at blizzard for producing this.

they skin or cholor scheme being diferent doens't matter they are still elves, theya re blood elf undeads, if the void elves didn't get new models they will not get too


it doesn't not matter, vrykuls are not humans, its a canon fact of the lore



the point is they do not kill their own allied neither kill their faction members, unlike the vampire elves



sure, they look like night elf ears, bat ears? not

They are first and foremost San'layn. They would get Blood Prince revamped models of course.

They are speaking coloquially.

They do, Paladins are their allies at that point and so are Red Dragons.

They don't look like NE ears. Those are rendition of bat ears clearly. That was the intend behind them. Now you are just denying it for the sake of denial.

[Katchii]

I know who they are, I'm saying their lore relevance is much weaker than that of San'layn. They are nothing more than red eyed humans.

Humans.

It is not pretty either. And I have used it as concept, not definite statement of how they should look. Someone wanted to edit Blood Elf instead of doing whole editing of Prince model to draw face or what not. As I have said, most fan art is pretty dark. Unless you mean tumblr like fangirl images. You can find plenty of siliness such as this.

That is not true at all. Ritual sacrifices are about killing your own for empowerment. Plenty of shady ways. Killing some of the weakest of your allies to get your power up and serve better? Acceptable by me.

They don't get hunter for this. Those order halls were hardly neutral consider where their commanders belong tooo, that is their respective alliances.

DK can have only pale skin. Blood Queen have wings, I can see it being used as racial for San'layn when they become playable. Oh but they do have bat ears.https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sdlka7C_DvY/maxresdefault.jpg as you can see those are not your regular elf ears.

San'layn are literally undead, vampyr Blood Elves.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/San%27layn

So anything visually having to do with them will have to be entirely based on Blood Elf physiology or it would break the lore. They could come up with reason for having shorter ears (they got chopped off or died and fell off or something) but they can't have a completely different ear structure to a Blood Elf. Unless they asspull some lore about the vampyr curse causing wings to grow and shit, they're just undead, vampyric blood elves. That said...Blizzard asspulls lore shit all the time, so I guess anything is possible. But current lore does not support anything you're saying regarding your view of their physiology.

[Rhlor]

yeah but they look really human, I'm looking for something a little bit on the monster side. I think someone watched to much shitty goth porn at blizzard for producing this.

They are first and foremost San'layn. They would get Blood Prince revamped models of course.

They are speaking coloquially.

They do, Paladins are their allies at that point and so are Red Dragons.

They don't look like NE ears. Those are rendition of bat ears clearly. That was the intend behind them. Now you are just denying it for the sake of denial.

vrykul vampyr

[Kharli]

So you would have lightforged undead instead of vampires??? Thank god you're not decision maker! And Forsaken would never accept that bitch Calia as their queen, she better find herself some rock in stormwind to crawl under! Long live Sylvanas!

i'm sorry..what? why would the forsaken not accept Calia as their queen? she is..litterally the princess of Lordaeron, well former W/E but, she sorta has a lot of ties to Lordaeron than sylvanas does, please also remember that sylvanas don't give two shits about the forsaken, she cares only for her own survival and at the moment that means keeping the forsaken alive and the horde at war.

[Fetus Rex]

San'layn are literally undead, vampyr Blood Elves.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/San%27layn

So anything visually having to do with them will have to be entirely based on Blood Elf physiology or it would break the lore. They could come up with reason for having shorter ears (they got chopped off or died and fell off or something) but they can't have a completely different ear structure to a Blood Elf. Unless they asspull some lore about the vampyr curse causing wings to grow and shit, they're just undead, vampyric blood elves. That said...Blizzard asspulls lore shit all the time, so I guess anything is possible. But current lore does not support anything you're saying regarding your view of their physiology.

That is factually wrong. It would mean that every undead Blood Elf is a San'layn which is not true at all. San'layn are Lich King creature, vampiric mutated beasts. Their Queen has a wings for a reason and for the same reason their ears are different. They have been reshaped by the unholy powers. Hell, even that shitty wowpedia articles states 'San'layn mostly retain the builds of their still-living kin. They are 5–6 feet tall with slim, athletic and strong bodies, and have fairly long hair and minimal facial hair.

However, unlike blood elves, their flesh appears necrotic and, though universally pale, ranges from fleshy pinks and red to gray and light green, and they tend to have either white, blond, red or dark hair. Their eyes have white, yellow, green, blue or black glows. Some San'layn have clawed fingers and ears more closely resembling those of a bat, and a few have developed wings.'

vrykul vampyr

yes but I think poer fantasy of a vamp is to have smaller body and greater strength. Vrykuls are already heavy weight champs. And there just isn't enough lore to them.

[Rhlor]

That is factually wrong. It would mean that every undead Blood Elf is a San'layn which is not true at all. San'layn are Lich King creature, vampiric mutated beasts. Their Queen has a wings for a reason and for the same reason their ears are different. They have been reshaped by the unholy powers. Hell, even that shitty wowpedia articles states 'San'layn mostly retain the builds of their still-living kin. They are 5–6 feet tall with slim, athletic and strong bodies, and have fairly long hair and minimal facial hair.

However, unlike blood elves, their flesh appears necrotic and, though universally pale, ranges from fleshy pinks and red to gray and light green, and they tend to have either white, blond, red or dark hair. Their eyes have white, yellow, green, blue or black glows. Some San'layn have clawed fingers and ears more closely resembling those of a bat, and a few have developed wings.'

yes but I think poer fantasy of a vamp is to have smaller body and greater strength. Vrykuls are already heavy weight champs. And there just isn't enough lore to them.

smaller body and greater strength?
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