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What the world has learned is that America is never more than one election away from losing its goddamned mindMe on Elite : Dangerous | My WoW charactersOriginally Posted by Howard Tayler
42,500 in June and that's just the illegal immigrants we caught. How many do you suppose they catch? 50%? 25%?
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awww poor child abusers and kidnappers not getting their children back
If people are being deported they should be reunited with their kids straight away. I can't see how they're not.
It looks like the majority of those cases are a shit show though. Pretty glad they're taking the kids into custody rather than giving them back to "parents" that could take advantage/abuse them more.
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I wonder what have happened to the kids if they would have stayed in Mexico. Wonder if America would have separated them? That's a tough question if you're a liberal.
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Yes. Like if you get caught doing something illegal and you have a kid with you or your own kids, you should totally be reunited cause at that point you're above the law.
This whole nonsense has jack shit to do with children. The children are just an emotional button we’re pressing to cloud the issue. Simple fact is one side of the argument believes in sovereign nations with the right to control their borders, and the other believes in a borderless, global society. The latter understands though their vision doesn’t yet hold water with most voters and so they make emotional appeals about the impoverished, and now “the children!” So that we’ll somehow feel responsible for people to whom we owe nothing who endangered themselves and their kids by attempting to cross a border they had no right to cross.
Are you aware that it is possible to be against family separation, but also against a completely borderless society? Crazy, right. Human beings are actually able to have differentiated viewpoints that do not automatically fall into "there are two kinds of people" statements. Just like you will find, in this very thread, people who do not mind children not being brought back to dangerous families/not their families, but irked that some are not reunited with perfectly fine parents simply due to officials not properly documenting things etc.
I personally do not mind illegal immigrants being turned around/deported - but think the children should go with them, unless there is reason to believe that traffickingis going on. Sometimes "the children!" is not just emotional manipulation, but the whole point of something.
Nobody is arguing for borderless anything. Just deport them.
Don't build fucking concentration camps (don't mistake them for death camps!) for children. Just roll back to before this "zero tolerance" bullshit was implemented, and stop treating humans outside your country as if they are something akin to animals.
The depravity of it all is just mind-boggling. The party of family values indeed.
And fuck ICE. It basically took a court order before they were even trying to return the children to their parents, which has proven to be rather challenging, as they never bothered to document shit about anything.
Well it's kinda important to find out/make sure that those kids actually belong to the adults they are with. How would you like it if someone stole your child and took it to another country and used for drug muling, sex or slave labor?
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Do you feel this way about all parents separated from their kids in the USA or just the Mexicans? There are people all the time separated from theirs kids do you have the same outrage over that?
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It's actually because they are kids we have to do this. Kids being used as drug mules, sex or slaves or both. You have to make sure the kids belong to the people they are with.
or would you rather just trust them?
Some serious strawmanning going on in here.
People should not enter the country illegally.
Our government should also have better documentation practices in place so that those who are being separated can immediately be reunited after being debriefed.
We're supposed to be a first-world country, not some backwater that treats people poorly, illegal or no.
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