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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathasil View Post
    The answer to this is once more: Brain-Fart-Lore.

    Let me explain: The TBC Velen collected the remaining energy/heart of the defeated M'uru. He did not just say "Yeah, whatever...use it if you like, i don't care.". No, he went into the heart of ENEMY territory in front of a fucking Horde Army (the player raid + Liadrin & Co) to bring the "gift" and cleanse the sunwell.
    He fucking cares a LOT about the remains of this fallen Naaru.

    Fast forward to the shitpile that was the Argus-Patch: Velen senses what is up with L'ura. He basically tells you minutes after arriving on Mac'aree. Does he really give a fuck? Nope. When he orders you to go and kill Argus, the soul of his homeworld...does he give a fuck? Nope. Deciding to kill Argus, despite Magni & the PC having been WARNED by him about Sargeras and the Broken stating this world is still heeding their call in times of need...was one of the most shitty, unmotivated things ever to happen in WoW. This "lore", if you want to call it that, has damaged all characters involved beyond repair. Argus was, to our knowledge, one of only 3 living Titans left in this Universe - not that the patch actually bothered to expalin what the difference is between a living and a dead Titan - but who cares, right? Obviously Velen does not.

    My point is: The TBC Velen (and WoD AU Velen as well) CARED. He gave a fuck. The 7.3.5 Velen does not. About anything. You can even see him breathing a sigh of relief right after the soul of his homeworld has been killed and Azeroth has been impaled. What the fuck is there to sigh in relief about? NOTHING.

    7.3 / 7.3.5. was a SHITFEST of lore+character butchering (7.2 was not better). That's why i cannot take ANY of the characters present or introduced in it seriously. They simply have no place in the lore worth talking about. This, of course, includes BOTH Alliance allied races, which are worth jack-shit if you ask me. None of this made any sense.
    I'm sure he cared about the fallen naaru but knows it has to fall because it is a being of the void and it would cause terrible damage. The world soul of Argus had to be stopped because it was a regenerator for the Legion. I don't know where you think he didn't care. Yeah he sighed at the end of Legion because the Burning Crusade is more or less over.

    That same crusade that hunted down his people across the stars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    Not really...her shit is swept under the rug so much. Sorry but it's true.
    Dude there's a tidal wave of people complaining about Sylvanas daily wtf are you talking about

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    illidan literally killed the queen of all naarus in front of turalyon and velen and no one cared 30 seconds later. turalyon was this naaru's most loyal servant and knew her personally for 1000 years. also he had met illidan 20 seconds earlier. also he has never seen a night elf and illidan looks like and is a demon like the demons he's been fighting for 1000 years

    if after all that no one cares about xe'ra dying then why would anyone in all of azeroth ever care about any naaru dying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Well, she also dined on the heart of the "Void Demigod" Nhal'athoth, before she absorbed the essence of the defeated L'ura
    Cool point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    I'd thinking the Ren'Dorei draining the Void energy from a Fallen Naaru and allowing it to return to a being of Light would be a good thing.
    You'd think, but who knows. Priests seemed to change Saa'ra back from a Void God fairly easily, and that lead to Calia's fate. Velen stirred M'uru's essence in a pot of arcane soup to make another Sunwell. Not sure why Alleria had to eat her Naaru.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    How many Naaru are left in lore?
    Like, 10. A'dal sent some Draenei to Theramore when Garrosh rolled up on it, no clue if we'll see the Sha'tar again. Naaru work in mysterious ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volardelis View Post
    I actually wonder if you drain the void from a void naaru, does it become a light naaru? If you count the shadow priest artifact as the main one that converted the captured void god back into a naaru, it does hint at that.
    I've always imagine the old "windchimes" were just crystal vessels for the primal energy of the universe. That the Ashbringer's disc is basically just a dwarf-shaped chunk of Naaru that can be injected with the Light or darker corrupting energies as the host pleases.



    Quote Originally Posted by sillag View Post
    if after all that no one cares about xe'ra dying then why would anyone in all of azeroth ever care about any naaru dying
    Well Turalyon did try to kill Illidan... though he also tried to kill Alonsus Faol haha! His character growth is wonderful, I guess, but it seems like he's going to be spent quick and his story is going to run into a dead end unless they find a job for him other than Paladin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    You mean like anything Sylvanas does?
    perfect alliance example

    do bad shit, then point at sylvanas
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    Crabs have been removed from the game... because if I see another one I’m just going to totally lose it. *sobbing* I’m sorry, I just can’t right now... I just... OK just give me a minute, I’ll be OK..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Lightforged Draenei may take issue with taking the Naaru's energy. The regular Draenei might not be so angered by it after everything Velen has experienced but that's up to debate still.
    Illidan literally stomped Lightforged crystal music box right in front of their faces and they just went *shrug*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Illidan literally stomped Lightforged crystal music box right in front of their faces and they just went *shrug*.
    Turalyon's shrugs hurt!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    Turalyon's shrugs hurt!
    They really dont, all it gave him was a papercut. Turns out making swords out of light is a dumb idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    If A'dal and the Sha'tar ever make their way to Azeroth I can't imagine there won't be tension.
    Well they won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    They really dont, all it gave him was a papercut. Turns out making swords out of light is a dumb idea.
    Illidan catches the sword by its material blade - probably a good idea on his part, catching it by the portion made of Light may have cost him some fingers (or a hand).
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Illidan catches the sword by its material blade - probably a good idea on his part, catching it by the portion made of Light may have cost him some fingers (or a hand).
    Turns out lightforged aren't too good at making swords that actually cut people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Turns out lightforged aren't too good at making swords that actually cut people.
    His sword appeared to cut people just fine during the quests in Mac'Aree where he accompanies the PC in killing mobs, finding the Lightforged commanders, and then finding Velen (who wandered off briefly to visit his old home, apparently). Illidan's a tough customer either way, as I'd imagine his demonification has given him extended and enhanced durability, and catching Turalyon's blade is still enough to pierce his hide as evidenced by the fel blood that starts running down his arm.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnyco View Post
    perfect alliance example

    do bad shit, then point at sylvanas
    Alliance are scouts compared to the Lich Queen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    Alliance are scouts compared to the Lich Queen.
    Enjoy your boring goody goody empire of human potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Enjoy your boring goody goody empire of human potential.
    But which is it? Some people say Alliance is nothing but goody goodies...but some people say Alliance has a dark past that is swept under the rug...can't really be both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillag View Post
    illidan literally killed the queen of all naarus in front of turalyon and velen and no one cared 30 seconds later. turalyon was this naaru's most loyal servant and knew her personally for 1000 years. also he had met illidan 20 seconds earlier. also he has never seen a night elf and illidan looks like and is a demon like the demons he's been fighting for 1000 years

    if after all that no one cares about xe'ra dying then why would anyone in all of azeroth ever care about any naaru dying
    I think it wasn't a matter of 'no one cares' as much as 'we still have the gravest threat Azeroth has ever faced to deal with.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Nope because alliance will never have internal conflict, even if they accept polar opposites like lightforged and void elves.
    I hope and dream it may one day be the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorotia View Post
    But which is it? Some people say Alliance is nothing but goody goodies...but some people say Alliance has a dark past that is swept under the rug...can't really be both.
    Please, only dark thing Alliance has is its stool. They are so utterly boring that it has become cancerous to the setting. Defeat and humilation is the only thing they deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    and then the Champion and Alleria go on their mission and return bearing the heart of a darkened Naaru (when is then fed into the Crucible)
    If I recall correctly, the heart that gets chunked into the Crucible is that of the void demi-god that Alleria noms on after stopping the ethereals from summoning him properly, not L'ura's. Your point still stands though, she came back from the Seat of the Triumvirate glowing purple, anyone paying attention probably guessed what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Please, only dark thing Alliance has is its stool. They are so utterly boring that it has become cancerous to the setting. Defeat and humilation is the only thing they deserve.
    So Horde can't even make up it's mind on what Alliance is eh?

    So Horde is interesting because it's the exact polar opposite of the Alliance? Because mindless killing and her being the Lich King 2.0 makes it ever so interesting

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