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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotutha View Post
    Haha. Even Putin does not respect the American President. He showed up late, as if he was meeting a inferior.
    Putin always shows up late.

    "When the Tsar of Russia goes fishing, Europe waits."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    I agree it's just his opinion, but typically if you say someone committed a crime you would have some evidence.
    You can ask him on twitter. Shouldn’t you be asking what evidance Trump has, to side with Putin over US intelligence?
    Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
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  3. #243
    Edit: Correction, I just re-watched the clip and the journalist actually did address the Ukraine question to putin. Trump just stood there smiling stupidly and allowed the "minor offense" of an old fashion landgrab and war of aggression to be quickly glossed over before quickly moving back to his main "no collusion" point.
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  4. #244
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Putin always shows up late.

    "When the Tsar of Russia goes fishing, Europe waits."
    trump isnt european, he is and represents americans, more than obama ever could, trump is a textbook example of an american

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    Maybe Shalcker will change his mind once his country get a democracy for the first time in its history.
    I watch all sides in Russian politics; for most of those who can feasibly get majority in "truly democratic system", i'm pretty sure you would prefer Putin, despite all his flaws.

    Some minorities can be more to your liking, but then it wouldn't really be "democracy" if they would got to govern.

  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by Warning View Post
    Hope everyone took note that putin decided to answer FOR trump when it came to Trump's stance on Ukraine. I wonder if he felt like Trump was about to go too far and tried to cover for him.
    Wait what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    I watch all sides in Russian politics; for most of those who can feasibly get majority in "truly democratic system", i'm pretty sure you would prefer Putin, despite all his flaws.

    Some minorities can be more to your liking, but then it wouldn't really be "democracy" if they would got to govern.
    shirinovsky would never get majority, the communists would get it

  8. #248
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umtiti View Post
    trump is a textbook example of an american
    A lecherous man who sexually assaults women, who steps out on his wife with prostitutes and porn stars, who is too rich to understand what it means to be a regular human being, but still manages to inflate his wealth by adding an extra zero or two at the end, who lies 100% of the time, who goes bankrupt all the time and can't run businesses, who doesn't pay what he owes to people, who builds huge monuments to himself that turn out to be complete garbage on the inside, who is on a leash of a mass-murdering ex KGB dictator, who admires genocidal dictators and other strongmen of the world, who dodged the Vietnam war several times on made up reasons, who insults war heroes, who questions the law enforcement and military of his own country, who spends most of his day on Twitter, tweeting nonsensical bullshit, who has no grasp of the English language, whose IQ is very low, sad, who calls Europe an enemy, who calls Canada an enemy, who calls the press an enemy...and countless other things that I could list but I think you get the point by now.

    I don't think that is representative of Americans.

  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Umtiti View Post
    shirinovsky would never get majority, the communists would get it
    Yep.

    And Communists aren't going to let go of Crimea either.

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    So beyond their election talk, did they actually discuss anything meaningful? I've read something about Syria, but what about the INF treaty, New Start, Ukraine, Crimea, Eastern Europe, China, North Korea? etc.
    "Life is one long series of problems to solve. The more you solve, the better a man you become.... Tribulations spawn in life and over and over again we must stand our ground and face them."

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by Kotutha View Post
    Haha. Even Putin does not respect the American President. He showed up late, as if he was meeting a inferior.
    But the thing is... he is meeting an inferior. He's wicked smart compared to Trump.

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by Umtiti View Post
    trump is a textbook example of an american
    He really isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Putin always shows up late.
    Indeed, someone should teach him how to read the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hextor View Post
    But the thing is... he is meeting an inferior. He's wicked smart compared to Trump.
    A dead possum on the side of the road is wicked smart compared to Trump...

  14. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Grow up. What does it take for you to get into your head that US had ZERO rights to challenge what Ukraine had chosen and propagate illegal coup against Ukrainian democratically elected government simply because they were unwilling to outbid Russian offer?

    US, lover of Freedom - as long as Freedom goes their way only, otherwise whoever has opposing opinion is legitimate and everyone else isn't, even if everything those they support do is against the law of their country.
    Conspiracy theories are not allowed on this forum, as far as I remember. EVIL, CONTROLLING AMERICA has become a cliche by this point, usually perpetuated by Russia to keep their eternal game of blaming everyone else.

  15. #255
    i see cnn broke out the widescreen headline to bash on mr trump. i would assume by now they would have the understanding that this president doesnt cave and say things just because people think he should. huffington post seems even more upset though. they say me trump 'sells out' because he held both countries 'responsible'. a clear nod to the blame that mr obama and his administration hold over the matter due to their inaction and improper action. but why would huffpo react this way i wonder. even top democrats have spoken about the obama administration failures in this matter and their responsibility. adam schiff criticized the failings himself in a lengthy speech. but huffpo seems to be quite 'triggered' that mr trump would bring this fact up. id love to ask them why they think this is 'selling out'. but neither are as bad as what the new york times did. they dropped a distasteful and homophobic and possibly pedophiliac cartoon about trump and putin being 'forbidden lovers in a teenagers bedroom'. quite sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reliquit-salis View Post
    i see cnn broke out the widescreen headline to bash on mr trump. i would assume by now they would have the understanding that this president doesnt cave and say things just because people think he should. huffington post seems even more upset though. they say me trump 'sells out' because he held both countries 'responsible'. a clear nod to the blame that mr obama and his administration hold over the matter due to their inaction and improper action. but why would huffpo react this way i wonder. even top democrats have spoken about the obama administration failures in this matter and their responsibility. adam schiff criticized the failings himself in a lengthy speech. but huffpo seems to be quite 'triggered' that mr trump would bring this fact up. id love to ask them why they think this is 'selling out'.
    He caved immediately. He took Putin’s word over his own intelligence agencies.

    Stop smoking crack, you’re desperate and sad.

    Now tell me how obama had an apology tour, please, I beg you.

    This is pathetic.

  17. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Wait what?
    Correction, I just re-watched the clip and the journalist actually did address both questions to putin at that time. Trump just stood there smiling stupidly and allowed the "minor offense" of an old fashion landgrab and war of aggression to be quickly glossed over before quickly moving back to his main "no collusion" point.

  18. #258
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    Conspiracy theories are not allowed on this forum, as far as I remember. EVIL, CONTROLLING AMERICA has become a cliche by this point, usually perpetuated by Russia to keep their eternal game of blaming everyone else.
    As does EVIL, DICTATORIAL RUSSIA, perpetuated by US to keep their eternal game of blaming everyone else for their own failures and aggressions.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    As does EVIL, DICTATORIAL RUSSIA, perpetuated by US to keep their eternal game of blaming everyone else for their own failures and aggressions.
    I know right what's evil about wanting to bring back the old soviet union using force /s

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    Welp, seems the summit is going as badly for Putins bitch as anyone with a working brain cell figured it would.

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