Why exactly do people hate Trump *so* much

[PosPosPos]

Well, when you are able to back up all your claims, feel free to let me know.

"And yet there were enough people who told you on this very forums that the place they lived in had only one supermarket/place to buy food from for a few hundred miles around, you just dismissed their concerns, because the only concern that matter to you is your own."

I know you can't back it up, you know you cannot back it up. Damn, that's just one of the many baseless claims you've made.

In this case, I believe you are the one who has to back up your claims? You were the one who is acting like a contract is somehow worth anything in an anarcho-capitalist world, especially cross-borders/governments.

[Machismo]

Sure, but we're talking about a number of people that would make them the majority in the country they've moved to.



Examples?



I wouldn't bet on that, i mean right this year we had american government officials explaining their policies with quotes from the fucking bible.



Well duh.

Diversity for the sake of it is just stupid. That island off the coast of India, I think, with what 200 indigene people never really come to see much from the outside world, that's what segregation gets you. Zero progress.

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Unless of course, the governments don't require that. Or is this a requirement in your world?

Then there wouldn't, and it would be treated as an act of war against a government for attacking one of their citizens.

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In this case, I believe you are the one who has to back up your claims? You were the one who is acting like a contract is somehow worth anything in an anarcho-capitalist world, especially cross-borders/governments.

You made that claim yesterday... still waiting for you to back it up.

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Some right-wing Spanish people still praise Franco?

The situation is similar here in Croatia, some left-wing Croats continue to worship Tito.

It's in recent memory. Some people feel they lived better under their respective regimes.
Ours are very fringe though; but they're a bit more vocal lately.
This is them yesterday at the monument where Franco is buried.

[Mayhem]

Then there wouldn't, and it would be treated as an act of war against a government for attacking one of their citizens.

It would be considered as an act of war that a citizen left another government? What?

[Theodarzna]

You think that doesn't already happen? I mean what are laws for then?

We've already decided certain opinions are unacceptable when turned into behavior.

I think it does, but it runs contrary to Liberalisms promised self-interest/autonomous choosing.

[Draco-Onis]

they only took what was given deerp

False, they got data for a set of users and used a flaw in the facebook system to get data of up to 87 million people without paying for it or consent.

if to many of one type of people move into another type of country will change the fabric of that country and can even take control of it

its happened all though out history

not all ideology and values are equal and they are definitely not all compatible

segregation is the only way you can keep diversity alive

People said the same thing about the Chinese, the Jews, Black people, the Irish etc. how did that work out? it's best to select people on an individual basis instead of blocking a group of people based on their race or religion. There has never been a moment in history where a country has done that and have not looked back at it in shame. The best example is the US turning away a boat filled with Jews back into the arms of the Nazis because Jews were not "compatible" with our culture at the time.

[Theodarzna]

The first two are like whatever, but the last one is kinda important. Discrimination against potential employees on the basis of race not only creates low mobility for that group (which is associated to a whole host of issues) but its also a loss to the country as a whole by denying the potential of that individual. I actually don't like making a case against bigotry like this because it implies that the moment discriminating is stops being detrimental to GDP or a similar measurable metric then its okay to be bigot, but that is the case if you want one.

So what sort of associations people are to have are to be regulated? And then if you don't agree with stopping only at "When it hurts the GDP" where do you think such regulations should stop?

[Varvara Spiros Gelashvili]

facebook sells user data derrp

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they only took what was given deerp

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if to many of one type of people move into another type of country will change the fabric of that country and can even take control of it

its happened all though out history

not all ideology and values are equal and they are definitely not all compatible

segregation is the only way you can keep diversity alive

Facebook sells users data but so do other companies like what point are trying to make?

Once again Ca sold that data and collected it illegally next time you post a thread about anything crime related ill remind you of these post. They stole private data from people without consent because there friends used the application. Never pretend to be tough on crime again.

[NED funded]

if to many of one type of people move into another type of country will change the fabric of that country and can even take control of it

its happened all though out history

not all ideology and values are equal and they are definitely not all compatible

segregation is the only way you can keep diversity alive

This is absolute nonsense. The more succesful cities in the USA are super diverse.

[Travis B]

if to many of one type of people move into another type of country will change the fabric of that country and can even take control of it

its happened all though out history

not all ideology and values are equal and they are definitely not all compatible

segregation is the only way you can keep diversity alive

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[PosPosPos]

You made that claim yesterday... still waiting for you to back it up.

No, your claim is that contracts mean something in your ideal world of no functional governments, you have to back this up.

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It would be considered as an act of war that a citizen left another government? What?

Ergo, self-serving logic yet again by Machismo.

[Mayhem]

No, your claim is that contracts mean something in your ideal world of no functional governments, you have to back this up.

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Ergo, self-serving logic yet again by Machismo.

It's a world with voluntary governments that you can't voluntarily leave if you've signed a contract with a government. If there are no contracts, if you leave, it means war, or so.

That's like the walking dead, with contracts.

[PosPosPos]

It's a world with voluntary governments that you can't voluntarily leave if you've signed a contract with a government. If there are no contracts, if you leave, it means war, or so.

That's like the walking dead, with contracts.

It's also funny how he keeps asking for "evidence" he subscribes to Anarchism when he says things like that in the same thread.

[Mayhem]

It's also funny how he keeps asking for "evidence" he subscribes to Anarchism when he says things like that in the same thread.

Who even enforces these contracts made between people and governments? I mean, is it just open season on people who aren't part of a government?

[Machismo]

It would be considered as an act of war that a citizen left another government? What?

No, it would be considered an act of war if a citizen harmed one of your citizens.

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No, your claim is that contracts mean something in your ideal world of no functional governments, you have to back this up.

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Ergo, self-serving logic yet again by Machismo.

You claim it's not a functional government, not me.

You made a claim yesterday, and I asked you to back it up. You have refused to do so. It really is that simple, you talking out your ass, and making baseless accusations. When you back up your claim, or retract it, then I will gladly address anything you want backed up.

[Mayhem]

No, it would be considered an act of war if a citizen harmed one of your citizens.

Right and then? Are citizens just called to arms and ordered to fight citizens from the other government? What if they don't want to? Ask for refugee status in another government?

I can visualize it right now. A small town somewhere with citizens from 8 different governments. Random people killing each other on the streets because their governments are at war while the citizens from other governments go shopping and having a fine picnic on the battle field, aka. central park.

[Machismo]

Right and then? Are citizens just called to arms and ordered to fight citizens from the other government? What if they don't want to? Ask for refugee status in another government?

I can visualize it right now. A small town somewhere with citizens from 8 different governments. Random people killing each other on the streets because their governments are at war while the citizens from other governments go shopping and having a fine picnic on the battle field, aka. central park.

That would depend on the type of government they chose to be a part of. We already have many different types of government, and how they fight wars.

How is what you are describing any different than the issues with governments we already have?

[Mayhem]

That would depend on the type of government they chose to be a part of. We already have many different types of government, and how they fight wars.

Yeah but those governments have something that they can rely on.

How is what you are describing any different than the issues with governments we already have?

What? From where are you from that you see people killing each other on the streets while no one can do anything about it because they aren't under your governments' jurisdiction?

I mean, it's quite different from right now because, apart from diplomats, everyone has to abide by the rules of the country they're in, not the country they're from.

In your world, every government would need to have contracts with every other government at all times, for its people to be somewhat safe. And that wouldn't be enough because who's going to enforce anything between those governments? How are smaller governments safe from larger ones?

[PosPosPos]

No, it would be considered an act of war if a citizen harmed one of your citizens.

So under your Anarchy, all governments will be at war with each other. Fitting it's namesake and identity at least.

You claim it's not a functional government, not me.

You made a claim yesterday, and I asked you to back it up. You have refused to do so. It really is that simple, you talking out your ass, and making baseless accusations. When you back up your claim, or retract it, then I will gladly address anything you want backed up.

By your specifications, it's so small it's essentially unable to arbitrate any disputes, so essentially the government is there for show, ergo, no government, lots of anarchy.

P.S. You can support your claims first, then I might consider supporting mine.

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What? From where are you from that you see people killing each other on the streets while no one can do anything about it because they aren't under your governments' jurisdiction?

He believes that everyone has the freedom(or the money, somehow) to hire their private army/armed bodyguards, so the government doesn't have to step in.

It's pretty ridiculous, it's so obvious to everyone he's preaching anarchy and chaos, but the only person who can't see that, is him.

[Mayhem]

He believes that everyone has the freedom(or the money, somehow) to hire their private army/armed bodyguards, so the government doesn't have to step in.

It's pretty ridiculous, it's so obvious to everyone he's preaching anarchy and chaos, but the only person who can't see that, is him.

And if all of those private armies/armed bodyguards form a government of their own, then what?