I really hope you're not still using the same computer you were using in 2004.
I really hope you're not still using the same computer you were using in 2004.
This is the least concerning thing I've read about Classic since it was announced. It god damn BETTER run on newer machines only because that means they're actually updating the game and it's not another Fallout 3 PC situation where everything crashes every 15 minutes.
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1. Not an issue with your disks. You are just making it up now. Try again.
2. No they weren't "doubled". Try again instead of blowing it out of proportion to prove some non-existent point.
3. DX12 doesn't support that because traditional fullscreen is outdated and Fullscreen Windowed offers mostly superior performance. You still have the option of using DX11 which should be fine.
4. "Loyal veterans" HAHAHAHHA. Mate even the hardcore Vanilla fans from what I've read know better than to want it supported for sofware/hardware that poses a security risk.
Nobody shares your concerns. Or is taking you seriously. Classic will not supported outdated DX9/32 bit hardware or software just so you can get an "authentic" experience.
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Actually they confirmed they do have it under the version control systems.
They even stated in an update they basically injected that code onto a server and it was a mess because it wasn't interacting properly with the modern tech.
Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2018-07-20 at 05:31 PM.
I do feel for OP in the sense that $500/mo salary would make affording a good pc a fairly expensive purchase, even though WoW has historically been a very flexible game when it has come to system requirements.
However, the attitude that "it is a 2004 game so it should run on a 2000 machine" is absurd. Retail is not a 2004 game, and the NEW classic will not be a 2004 game, it would be silly to revert to 2004 graphics etc, hence why they made Star Craft remastered and didn't just try to balance it and revive it as it was.
Edit: As an example as to how modest wow has been with sys requirements, I ran it for a couple years off of a pc I bought from goodwill for less than $50...
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WoW Classic will not be the original game. It'll be the original game (to some extent) redone in the modern engine. So yeah, that's that. ANYTHING regarding performance right now is speculation and gets you nowhere. I don't think there's anything you can hope to achieve with this topic except for maybe a tiny few people who share your concerns. But I doubt you'll find any.
So yeah, sucks to be you, but you'll have to simply deal with whatever WoW Classic ends up being. Blizzard is NOT gonna cater to those of us who have incredibly old machines. /thread
It will have similar or better compared to live when you are in old unchanged areas in the game. Maybe even better as some features that may influence performance are not present in Vanilla (achievement tracking, questhelper, that kind of stuff).
Also, while I disagree with OP, I did have a similar experience with reduced performance over the expansions. However my last two systems where laptops (not low ends though). I found it trickier to make those last longer, but then again I refuse to make concessions on certain setting, resolution in particular (not native = not playing as it irritates me the most). With my current system (see sig) I expect it to last 5-6 years, without upgrades, longer with. That said, my five year old laptop still plays the games decently and probably better if I lowered the settings a bit more. I only upgraded the msata 32gb buffer ssd with a proper (and not that expensive) 512gb ssd. It flies again, and while it isn't the fastest system, it is still properly usable for most stuff. For the really heavy stuff. Actually with Steam I can actually stream in house and play on full detail on my laptop : p
Weirdly enough it is the first system I never had to add extra RAM. Provided you don't a crap system computers last a lot longer then before. I remember from the 90s & 00s that a system would only last you 3 years and that was only if you bought high end. Also computers have become a lot cheaper since then relatively speaking. These days you can buy a midrange, long lasting(and capable) system for a price that in the past would only buy you a low end piece of s***, that was already useless the day you got it.
guys guys we need to be patient eventually we will all be playing our treasured pc games in augmented virtual reality via holo decks soon or so one would hope then no more fits over oh no i have to upgrade my computer parts.
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Every 2 years. Constant? Should I start whining that wow does not utilise my 1080ti and 6700k OC setup with SSD? I know not everyone has this build, but not everyone runs on 10 years old systems. Vanilla fog and graphics looks same as setting 1 currently, if you don't want to play on that how will u like vanilla? and if you can't run even on those settings... I am sorry mate, but you can save a half a year worth of sub+expansion cost and get a better settup.
ya BASE game was released 2004 ... dude your examples of going from 60 fps in wotlk to 20 in cata etc are just dogshit ... there was literally no change to textures/polygons etc there .. its just that your shit hardware gets worn out .. thought about that your potato's HDD is just getting slower and slower every year? that your potato is bloated with shit stuff malware etc everything i bet u have one of these 2000's already complete build PC's from some LIDL store for just 399 bloated full with software yada yada .. if its so hard for you to even play WoW because of shit economics etc and u can't even upgrade your PC over time i mean dude u had 14 years .. one month you buy an SSD save 1-2 month buy the next thing and so on.. and if u can't afford it maybe think about quitting gaming alltogether we don't want you to starve because u use all the money for WoW sub
And still runs fine on intel GPUs. My 2013 MacBooks performance has seen notable improvements in performance. Its hitting the 30 FPS cap I set on it much more readily without activating the fans.
(The cap is specifically to avoid excessive fan noise and battery drain; the more efficient the game runs, the less heat is generated)
True but it'll still use more up to date requirements.
It won't run for example on a Pentium 4, 512 MB RAM, Geforce FX 5800 and Windows 2000 for example.
Might not be as heavy requirements as BFA is but it won't be anything 32 bit that's for sure. And considering they just dropped DX9 support I doubt they are going to bring it back so I imagine the API will be 11 and 12.
I liked the one poster's quote that gamne works better with turned off shadows... But he forgot that you can't turn off shadows for quite a time, and in BfA you can't even put them at "low".
What is not serious about EQ II? That it runs better than WoW for me now? It can be also played without subscription, though sub definitely provides the optimal experience. Sure, EQ II required PC from the future on its launch and it was perhaps one of big reasons why it failed. However, sys requirements didn't change much (if at all) over time, so eventually EQ II became more playable for me than WoW.
I can't comprehend the logic of some posters, but that's ok. And there was a number of threads on CASC, how it causes big fragmentation of files (and excessive pressure on disks) with all the consequences.
Anyway, my rose glasses are off, I see that Classic won't be real Classic but some remastered version. Also if it is going to be based on BfA client, you will have to say bye-bye to wall-climbing, graphical modding (which is totally harmless), and most likely a lot of Classic addons won't work (like [auto-]decurse, good luck decursing people manually in 40-men raids which will definitely be lagfest for most people).
I also now clearly see why retail WoW is so bad now, it is because white knights try to overyell any kind of concern about the direction of the game. It started from "innocent" things like nerfing sharpening stones, then later - removing weapon skills, removing keyring, and in the end we have something totally different and totally non-appealing to most of the people from preCata era. Now people are white-knighting absolutely horrible system requirements bump in BfA, which are also partly artificial (by removing true Fullscreen, because, according to some stupid people, Microsoft globally banned it).
The only sad thing is those white-knights will quickly realize that Classic gameplay isn't actually for their taste. All you white knights should just stick to BfA where you have your horrible CASC and other perks of bad optimization. Classic was based on MPQs, it had Classic water (hard to describe it), you also had to watch shallow waters as mounts didn't like it (I wonder how it will be realized with BfA mount behavior). There just so many small things come up which just don't seem they will be able to coexist right in the same engine as BfA.
It would also feel good to finally overpower this game in terms of hardware, but guess some people like constant hardware races or they don't mind having sub-20 fps while solo. Technical progress is made exactly so that you could launch older software more efficiently and get more difficult tasks, it isn't so that game from 2004 (it was released in 2004, if you say it is released in 2018+ that's you who have serious mental issues) would require PC from distant future to manage at least 20 fps in solo.
Can't put shadows at low hmmm?
You were saying? (Ignore the shit tier cropping from me I just don't like people seeing my character list)
Please don't post misinformation. I can turn them down to Low just fine. The only minor difference is that the new Low is what Fair was. Which is fine. It's low resolution player shadows. Old Low shadows used to be a blob. If going from a blob to a low res shadow is that much strain then it's time to upgrade your pc.
All it sounds like here is you want no changes without actually realising that it is not possible.
They do not have the 2004 hardware anymore to run it on. Hence why it is being remade on modern hardware from the ground up. Nor would they be idiotic enough to run it on a security risk among other factors.
They are not going to support software or hardware that even the developers of them don't support anymore.
And I highly doubt your current WoW computer is lower than Windows 7 or DX9 because they just dropped support for DX9 hardware and Vista/XP recently.
So no. Nobody here shares your concern. Why? Because it's not a concern. You are a minority in this one who want "muh authentic experience" which will not be provided due to them actually wanting to polish the game and run it on a system where they can actually support it. Nor will they cater to said minority who's only argument for wanting to run it on a pc that is essentially a security risk is for "the experience".
They did actually inject the old code into their newer servers. You know what happened? It went apeshit. Because it was barely compatible. Hence why it is being rewritten to work on current servers. They will not pull 2004 server blades or w/e they are out of retirement. In fact I'm pretty sure they auctioned most of the old ones off ages ago.
But by all means. Pull the white knight card when a thread you make goes the way you don't want it to go simply because people explain the realities of the situation to you. Only means we should take you less seriously.
Last edited by Eleccybubb; 2018-07-20 at 11:07 PM.
So what you really wanted to say was...#nochanges?
Blizz have said they'll be using their current engine for classic, so they'll likely have the same requirements.
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