Will people want to do WQ as much without legendaries, RNG mounts?

[Thokri]

Did WQ untill all legion were exalted on main. After that haven't touched, not worth 0.0001% chance for mount.

[Archibalde]

I'll probably only do gold world quests and a bit of Azerite once everything is exalted, but honestly... it's not really a bad thing. Lots of people got burnt out pretty fast in Legion. They will most likely introduce a paragon system later down the road, but initially there should be enough to do for a while.

[Morae]

Care.

If WQ's are useful to me somehow, they are done. Legendaries? Mounts? Whatever.

All I need is a reason to do them.

[Polarthief]

I did WQ's all throughout Legion and it was never for either of those things. So.. probably?

... Why?

The Azerite Traits from max level gear actually rival Set Bonuses and some are close to being as strong as legendary effects from Legion Leggos.

It's definitely worth going for them in the same way gems/enchants are worth putting on your gear (unless you're an LFR Hero or worse who doesn't give a fuck about performance), but the bold part just isn't really that true. They're more equivalent to major traits in the artifact which are way weaker than both. Most of them are extremely boring/passives that you don't have to do anything. Ion straight up lied when he said "most change your gameplay" which is just so not true. Only a handful of them actually matter.

But yeah without a primary reason to actually do the WQs, I don't see me doing them past exalted, unless resources are given out in much smaller quantities relative to what you need/potential profession items. Gold? AP? Emissaries? Don't make me laugh.

[In Ogres We Trust]

I like how accessible world quests are, but I missed the RP aspect of going to a quest giver and working on a campaign like Isle of Thunder. Wood quests feel too mechanical and unnatural.

World quests are nothing more than a time treadmill with no connection to the story (and free gear/gold).

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The whole thing about this expansion is that theyare giving you choices on what content you wanna do without forcing you into one.

This is a good thing. Stop the armchair designing and just play the game.

The system is shit (with random popups throughout the zone).

[taishar68]

The phrase “no one does/ will do x” belongs in the same category as “90% of x...” The reasons why people do world quests or anything are varied and multifaceted, and because you don’t like them doesn’t mean others don’t.

That said, they should have relevant rewards that make them attractive to do. And despite how you personally feel, the objective truth is Blizzard succeeded at providing an array of relevant rewards for all types of players for a long time in Legion. In Legion, WQ’s awarded gold, loot, materials, honor, honor marks, resources, as well as nice chunks of rep, and it was an incentive to get out and do stuff besides sit in town/garrison.

So in BfA, say you can’t get Legs. Ok. You get all the rest above, which helps most players across the entire expansion. As for gear being crappy... you can either DE it if you’re an enchanter, or turn it into Expulsom, which you can at least sell if you don’t need it to upgrade gear. Still not good enough? Vendor the damn thing for 20-40g, which is a nice reward for just about any quest.

If you don’t need gear, or resources, or AP, or mats, or rep, or gold, or honor....then grats. But you’ll be in the minority, in my opinion.

[vsb]

What game offers that? because...I say that in the end the obligation and "... feel I have to do that" comes entirely from the players. If the game offers you several sources to get an upgrade - it is up to you to decide what sorce to pursue. If you also go for the sources that you hate doing because " my guild forces me" or whatever...I find it cheap to blame that on the game.

That's wrong approach. I don't have a choice between running a raid, doing a M+ weekly or doing daily chest. I must do it all to improve my character in raids. While I can live with M+, because it's slightly different but similar PvE activity, tying any kind of meaningful PvE rewards to dailyes (or PvP) is just wrong. Why not make a weekly cap which I can complete doing EITHER raid or dungeons or quests is beyond my comprehension.

[taishar68]

Well, World of Warcraft only "forces" those people to do things which play competetively or in organized groups. Who think they have to sacrifice something for effectiveness.

If you are in a guild where you have to be "competetive" to be taken on a raid, those people surely arent your friends.

And, as the devs say themself, World of Warcraft is best played with friends. Which arent people who only let you join for your performance level.

It is up to you how you play the game. It is up to you to leave a guild which wants you to perform.

Well said. Now, if someone says I want to be competitive, etc., that is different, but again, that doesn’t apply to everyone.

[In Ogres We Trust]

Depends if there are warden towers like WQ then yes, got to honor 139 on the new system and I’ve done less than ten bg’s i’m no pvper. As for the legion mounts, got my last on my 113th cache, I don’t mind the system or the grind, heck I liked legendaries but that’s just me. The lack of grind and things to aim for in bfa worries me.

Honestly, I want to see a return to the MoP system (where the dailies are tied into the story with a rotating set of quests).

[Hitei]

Honestly, I want to see a return to the MoP system (where the dailies are tied into the story with a rotating set of quests).

It really isn't all that different.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Depends if there are warden towers like WQ then yes, got to honor 139 on the new system and I’ve done less than ten bg’s i’m no pvper. As for the legion mounts, got my last on my 113th cache, I don’t mind the system or the grind, heck I liked legendaries but that’s just me. The lack of grind and things to aim for in bfa worries me.

At first i read this as you got to 139 with less than 10 BGs since the prepatch.. I also havent seen pvp quests yet, but i never opened up all WQs.

[cordrann]

Honestly, I want to see a return to the MoP system (where the dailies are tied into the story with a rotating set of quests).

The MoP system (aka world of daily craft) received more backlash than any other similar system. It’s never coming back. It was literally the worst received thing in that expansion.

[Accendor]

This is a good point that gets missed as everyone considers what they want to do. It's actually better said and has more meaning than what I said earlier about never underestimating the power of having something to do.

Yeah, but if nothing feels rewarding, nothing will be done. See WoD. See WoD. In theory there was way more content than people claim, there just was no rewarding content.

[In Ogres We Trust]

The MoP system (aka world of daily craft) received more backlash than any other similar system. It’s never coming back. It was literally the worst received thing in that expansion.

The primary complaint was the gating for the August Celestials and the tying of reputation to dailies (which hasn't changed). Otherwise, it was well-received.

[Julmara]

got my last rep mout at 67 tries yeah totaly awesome feature

[Mafic]

This could be one of the reasons but why do they feel the need to do this? To force people into raids? I mean Mythic+ is so much easier to develop than new raids, it is maybe the cheapest way of keeping people entertained.

Raids is easy for them to tune different difficulties and call it new content. Plus, in Legion a lot of raiders voiced they were forced to do world quests to compete ala MoP. So, yeah BFA is looking like a repeat of WoD where raiding is taking a top priority over casual players. Blizz is known for going to extremes so this is in line with what is happening.

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The WoD system that essentially boiled down to get your rep done then either a) sit in garrison / org waiting for a group to form or b) play a different game.

Well the BFA version is wait for your mythic + group. What BFA has to offer is clearly on the beta right now. At least in WoD we could test way more content that would come down the line. BFA has one raid available for testing so what you see is what you will receive.

[axelsixtree]

On beta levelling was already boring during the last levels. When i saw WQ pop on the map i was uninterested in what i saw (little bit of gold, ressources, réputation or azerite, sometimes one blue item). Don't know if i've played this game for too long but that's the first time i feel this way in a beta.

Initially my guess was that Blizzard attempted to hide the cool stuff and put it in just for release to preserve novelty (things like cinematics etc) in order to test the absolute minimum, but i'm less and less convinced about that frankly.

I gradually played less and less on the beta at max level because of the feeling of void. At no point i felt the overwhelming quantity of class quests, profession quests etc that i had in legion when arriving at level 110 (started legion late so it probably can't be compared). I deleted the beta because i couldn't log in anymore (after just 48 h /played including more than 24h at max level and the end of campaign). The only exciting thing at this point was trying to solo old raids (and even then Blizzard didn't make the first raids of legion available, damn they really did well well to suck the fun out of this beta... Legion end of expansion leftovers felt better...)

I'm afraid BFA is taking the road of WOD (not timeconsuming game, perfect for playing 1 or 2 hours a day) under the disguise of legion systems.

I feel maxing out Heart of Azeroth will be an epic grind (can't tell if unprecedented, since i heard the start of legion was this way)

[Super Kami Dende]

... Why?.

AP, Gold, Marks of Honor, Professions Mats to make more Gold, Order Resources to make Gold from Missions, Gear to Disenchant for Gold(with the slight chance to get lucky and get a Titanforged upgrade).

WQ's were a goldmine.

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It's definitely worth going for them in the same way gems/enchants are worth putting on your gear, but the bold part just isn't really that true. They're more equivalent to major traits in the artifact which are way weaker than both. Most of them are extremely boring/passives that you don't have to do anything.

Here are a few Frost DK Azerite Traits.
Killer Frost - Frost Strike deals 54 additional damage with each hit and has a 15% chance on critical strikes to grant Killing Machine.
Decimate - Obliterate has an additional 5% chance to trigger Rime, and Obliterate deals an additional 539 damage when it critically strikes.
Icy Citadel - When Pillar of Frost expires, your Strength is increased by 99 for 6 sec. This effect lasts 2 sec longer for each Obliterate and Frostscythe critical strike during Pillar of Frost.
Echoing Howl - When empowered by Rime, Howling Blast causes a secondary burst of icy wind around you that deals 216 Frost damage to nearby enemies.

Here are the previous DK Set Bonuses from Legion.
2 pieces (Frost) : Obliterate has a 20% increased chance to trigger Rime.
4 pieces (Frost) : Howling Blast now generates 6 Runic Power while Rime is active.
2 pieces (Frost) : Howling Blast damage increased by 15% and Obliterate damage increased by 15%
4 pieces (Frost) : When you deal Frost damage, you have a chance to release a barrage of icy spikes at your target dealing Frost damage.
2 pieces (Frost) : Every 60 Runic Power spent while Pillar of Frost is active increases the duration of Pillar of Frost by 1.0 sec.
4 pieces (Frost) : Every 3 Runes spent increases the Strength bonus of your next Pillar of Frost by 1%.

Yeah, Set Bonuses are totally way more powerful than Traits would be. Absolutely no comparison at all

[ShiyoKozuki]

WQ's are shit content and will forever be shit content. The only reason anyone did them was for lego chance. With legos gone expect alot less people doing them in BFA.

They're shit content because casuals whine endlessly if they can't half shot mobs so they have ZERO difficulty or challenge and thus reward nothing of value. They were ruined because of catering to dumb people.

[kamuimac]

On beta levelling was already boring during the last levels. When i saw WQ pop on the map i was uninterested in what i saw (little bit of gold, ressources, réputation or azerite, sometimes one blue item). Don't know if i've played this game for too long but that's the first time i feel this way in a beta.

Initially my guess was that Blizzard attempted to hide the cool stuff and put it in just for release to preserve novelty (things like cinematics etc) in order to test the absolute minimum, but i'm less and less convinced about that frankly.

I gradually played less and less on the beta at max level because of the feeling of void. At no point i felt the overwhelming quantity of class quests, profession quests etc that i had in legion when arriving at level 110 (started legion late so it probably can't be compared). I deleted the beta because i couldn't log in anymore (after just 48 h /played including more than 24h at max level and the end of campaign). The only exciting thing at this point was trying to solo old raids (and even then Blizzard didn't make the first raids of legion available, damn they really did well well to suck the fun out of this beta... Legion end of expansion leftovers felt better...)

I'm afraid BFA is taking the road of WOD (not timeconsuming game, perfect for playing 1 or 2 hours a day) under the disguise of legion systems.

I feel maxing out Heart of Azeroth will be an epic grind (can't tell if unprecedented, since i heard the start of legion was this way)

burnout is only natural if you play 1 game for 15 years .

nothing will be ever exiting in wow

never ever again .

it will be fun , it will be time consuming but it will not be exiting

if you look for this dopamine rush then gotta go play other game

farming mount number 357 , pet number 1234 , gear piece number 487 can never be as satisfying as geting this first flying mount , this first shiny mount , this first sexy gear set or first shiny pet.

its simply impossible. and people look for such impossibility in wow . thats why they whine so much

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They're shit content because casuals whine endlessly if they can't half shot mobs so they have ZERO difficulty or challenge and thus reward nothing of value. They were ruined because of catering to dumb people.

no - they are shit content because they offer utter garbage usless rewards.

highly doubt anyone would mind farming them if they for example rewarded vp and like in past you could buy 2 hc raid quality pieces every 3 weeks like in past.

everybody would farm them for months