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  1. #21
    Imperius seems to be the safer play.

    Valerian Mengsk is a C tier concept with no real gameplay behind him... What would he be, a Support hero? Specialist? Assassin? Not saying it couldnt be him, but I dont see a concept that would work right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thimagryn View Post
    Imperius seems to be the safer play.

    Valerian Mengsk is a C tier concept with no real gameplay behind him... What would he be, a Support hero? Specialist? Assassin? Not saying it couldnt be him, but I dont see a concept that would work right now
    Literally nobody saw Stukov as a support, since his SC2 abilities were all highly offensive.
    99% of Deckard Cain concepts had him as a non-combatant, since people couldn't see him in the thick of a fight
    And let's be real, who saw Probius coming?

    You can always be surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    Literally nobody saw Stukov as a support, since his SC2 abilities were all highly offensive.
    99% of Deckard Cain concepts had him as a non-combatant, since people couldn't see him in the thick of a fight
    And let's be real, who saw Probius coming?

    You can always be surprised.
    Those surprises were most often the worst heroes implemented though :P I hope they focus to get roles covered and balanced instead of surprising us. Currently, I think we need another hard tank and supports reworked/tuned. I mean they were awesome with Yrel: Buffing her into madness till all solo laners said "no way to counter her". Then out of his grave came Leoric who was also awesome against the current caster meta.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by melzas View Post
    Archangel of Valor + something that looks like gates of valor from wow = Imperius
    Gates of Valour is a good shout. Surprise Odyn?

  5. #25
    I'm so hoping its Arcturus and not Valerian. Both because Arcturus is far cooler of a character, and more iconic, as well as the fact that Valerian is literally just space Anduin, same hair, same personality, same voice actor. One really can't come alongside the other, and Anduin deserves the spot much more.

  6. #26
    Looks like a door from the palace of Korhal. It's gotta be.

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    Looks like a door from the palace of Korhal. It's gotta be.
    What image of Korhal do you have in mind?

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    What image of Korhal do you have in mind?
    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160226141741

    Might be a bit of a stretch, but it's the closest thing I can connect this too.

  9. #29
    Why dont they just make tirion already

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    Quote Originally Posted by B4lmung View Post
    Those surprises were most often the worst heroes implemented though :P I hope they focus to get roles covered and balanced instead of surprising us. Currently, I think we need another hard tank and supports reworked/tuned. I mean they were awesome with Yrel: Buffing her into madness till all solo laners said "no way to counter her". Then out of his grave came Leoric who was also awesome against the current caster meta.
    Stukov and Deckard have been consistently high-tier since their releases
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgusTheUnmaker View Post
    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20160226141741

    Might be a bit of a stretch, but it's the closest thing I can connect this too.
    Lol... I really have to do this:

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkaszal View Post
    Literally nobody saw Stukov as a support, since his SC2 abilities were all highly offensive.
    99% of Deckard Cain concepts had him as a non-combatant, since people couldn't see him in the thick of a fight
    And let's be real, who saw Probius coming?

    You can always be surprised.
    First two were fairly predictable. Even Carbot made videos for Stukov and Deckard. The consensus was more towards a Specialist Stukov, but at least there was definitely potential in him being a hero, especially since he had such an active role in the Heart of the Swarm campaign.

    Deckard has a long list of concepts and was gonna be the old man support from the get-go. He's been wanted by players for so long that theorycrafts for him have existed for a long while.

    Probius was an outlier, I'll give you that.

    As for Valerian, I've still not seen a good concept for him that works. Some say he's a fencer. Others say he should be a Terran Abathur. I don't see either working very well to be honest, and him being in a combat role would mean either they go out of their way to take him out of character. He's not a frontline fighter, not a gunner, and definitely not a gadgets/spellcaster type. He's a commander, but not necessarily known for his military prowess either... He's an artifact hunter with a rich daddy. I don't see what kind of concept that yields for the current meta, which is based very heavily on normalizing roles and archetypes and focuses way less on the abstract playstyle that we've had in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoiseTank13 View Post
    A Mengsk is highly likely.

    Which one is harder to discern.

    While I'd love for it to be a Mogu (Lei Shen) it neither looks Mogu or has any of Lei Shen's elements.

    Doesn't really look angelic either, a bit too "modern" in design.
    I feel like Arcturus is gonna be more likely, concidering Valerian is basicly just space Anduin and it seems unlikely that we wouldn't see Anduin at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saphyron View Post
    seems like something from mogu'shan vault
    Was my first thought too, got hyped for Lei Shen or something. But I went and checked various doodads and I don't think it matches

    The handles suggests humanoid, it doesn't scream Diablo to me, so I'd have to say Starcraft universe. The colours seem dominion, so I think Arcturus Mengsk is a good shout. He's been requested quite a lot in the past too.
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  16. #36
    Betting its Terran but could be something from OW as well.

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    Doesn't look like the door to Mengsk room from heart of the storm (similar shape diff texture) but that's not something that Blizz would care about lol.

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    And I thought it looked like something from Caldeum, but it's gotta be a Mengsk o:

    An expansion concept based on K'aresh
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    I've never seen either of the Mengsks actually fight, just command forces from a cushy room. What would their toolkits/role even be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakna View Post
    I've never seen either of the Mengsks actually fight, just command forces from a cushy room. What would their toolkits/role even be?
    as they said "Deckard Cain"

    commanders like them could be anything. I mean Raynor is a freaking weakest unit in starcraft (other than builders) but he's still seen as a hero,

    could be a Abathur commander (i dream one day of them making an abathur commander that doesnt have to rely on symbiote), a character like genn greymane/or the brood mother where their abilities summon units.

    his son is barely in the game and only came to power in the expansions that dont feature the terran and the father would definately have the xelnaga artifact as one of his heroics

    i did come here hoping ppl might actually know what its from, the fact that no one has makes me wonder if this is a Genji/Dva situation.

    remember how we thought the claw marks were the clue?
    Romance doesnt detract from a story. Its a Genre, like horror or comedy or adventure. The game was ruined when we got Horror in drustvar or nazmir. It wasnt ruined when we had funny quests. So if you think a little man on man love ruins the game, then yes you are either a homophobe or just a spoil sport that goes "ewww kissing is yucky" like a baby. Furthermore, if a character has never expressed interest in any gender, then its not proof they are straight. straight people are not the default

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