Sweden: activist prevents deportation of a man to Afghanistan

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...on-afghanistan

According to this article, no, this wasn't spontaneous. The girl in question is supposedly a part of an asylum activist group that found out this man was being deported to Afghanistan: bought a ticket for the flight from Gothenburg to Turkey after she and other asylum activists found out that an Afghan was due to be deported on it

Ahh seems English press is finally jumping on it, I'll add it to the OP

[Forogil]

That is not what identity consists of. We have partial information about this individual's identity: he is a man and is 52 years old. You can infer that he is from Afghanistan.

That is such a partial identity that it is meaningless, but even that little information the girl had wrong.

She thought it was a young Afghan who was to be deported, since 52 is not young, she clearly didn't know this person.

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A Pyrrhic victory if there ever was one!

She is now prolly on every watchlist in the western world and he will no doubt be deported weeks later and now the far right get another feather in there cap which they will use in the upcoming Swedish election.

True, if people notice. Which probably explains the lack of Swedish media link in OP.

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True, if people notice. Which probably explains the lack of Swedish media link in OP.

What would be the point in linking something from Swedish media on an English forum?

[reliquit-salis]

i highly doubt she 'prevented the deportation'. at most all she did was get the deportee scheduled on a different flight. i think security should have removed her in handcuffs the moment she failed to follow crew instructions. we cant have lunatics potentially putting peoples safety at risk.

[Forogil]

What would be the point in linking something from Swedish media on an English forum?

Did you read OP?

Can you explain why a link to a German newspaper written in German about news in Sweden, makes sense on an English forum?

And are you aware that there exists news in English from Swedish media? (And google translate also works.)

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Did you read OP?

Can you explain why a link to a German newspaper written in German about news in Sweden, makes sense on an English forum?

And are you aware that there exists news in English from Swedish media? (And google translate also works.)

It doesn't make any more sense than linking something in Swedish.

[Strawberry]

Thanks for the information, but no, I'm really more interested about the reason for this specific deportation because that's what we're discussing. Still not sure how that's relevant though. What do you mean "process more people?" How do the people come up in the system to be processed? That's what interests me more. In any job the more work you do, the better, so I'm not going to blame average joe for processing paperwork and whatnot to deport people who are on the list to be deported.

If the person is on the list, they got there for a reason (never argued it was a good reason, just saying there's a "why" for doing it). Find out what THAT reason is and maybe you can do something to change it.

WOW!
SERIOUSLY!
You're the type who is told something and you believe that 100%.
It must be, because there is a reason.
But FUCK WHAT REASON, all it matters is that there is a reason!

Did you know that Tide Pods are actually candy? If you eat them for a week, you will grow a larger dick and huge muscles. No need to work out!

[Katchii]

WOW!
SERIOUSLY!
You're the type who is told something and you believe that 100%.
It must be, because there is a reason.
But FUCK WHAT REASON, all it matters is that there is a reason!

Did you know that Tide Pods are actually candy? If you eat them for a week, you will grow a larger dick and huge muscles. No need to work out!

Until you can carry on a discussion about the words being said and the actual topic being discussed rather than personally attacking me I'm done responding to you.

[Strawberry]

Until you can carry on a discussion about the words being said and the actual topic being discussed rather than personally attacking me I'm done responding to you.

I gave you first hand experience how things in Swedish government go bad since I work there and you still stick to your "There's a reason, I don't know what reason, but there is a reason, so it's justified".

I have little patience for sheep.
Scratch that, I have zero patience for sheep.

[Deleted]

So she is behaving like she knows that guy. Does it sound alright? Of course not.

[Phlegethon]

She does not personally decide what the government does with "her taxes". That is not how it works in a democracy.

And she is a student - which means that the government pays her money (directly and indirectly) exceeding what she pays back in taxes, i.e. she is not a net-contributor of money to the government.

So, the "argument" is valid - whereas your counter-argument is non-existent.

O_O
So, because she does not get to pick what exactly she is paying for would mean she does not pay for it at all? What are you even saying?
Also, because she is not a net contributer (by the way - NOBODY - is a net contributer) she does not get a say?

What are you on?
(your argument is still invalid and as for the second bit... What are you on?)

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How do you know she pays taxes?

Because she is alive and living in Sweden.
The alive part is maybe not even a prerequisite, they probably have estate taxes too.

[Blobfish]

Why do most SJW females have dark rimmed glasses?

[Forogil]

O_O
So, because she does not get to pick what exactly she is paying for would mean she does not pay for it at all? What are you even saying?

I'm stating that whether she pays taxes does not give her any specific say in how the taxes are spent. That's neither how a democracy works, nor how taxes work.

However, people who want to decide about how taxes are spent usually pay more in taxes than the state spends on them. Claiming that you have a right to decide on how the state spends "your taxes" when the state spends a lot more on you than you pay in taxes is plain ridiculous.

Also, because she is not a net contributer (by the way - NOBODY - is a net contributer) she does not get a say?

Wrong, she does not get a say - regardless of her contributions.

And there are net contributors. If no-one was a net contributor the whole system would collapse.
Do you have any understanding of how public finances work? Money? Democracy?

What are you on?
(your argument is still invalid and as for the second bit... What are you on?)

If your response to getting the facts wrong is to insult people you will end up insulting a lot of people.

Because she is alive and living in Sweden.
The alive part is maybe not even a prerequisite, they probably have estate taxes too.

You clearly have no knowledge of the facts, so please refrain from speaking.

You are like the person who previously had the death-rate in traffic wrong by a factor of almost 20 in Sweden.
(And, just to be clear: Sweden has abolished estate taxes, and students normally don't pay income tax - but get paid by the state.)

[Cizr]

Even if it is misguided, it's an admirable action. She's trying to save a life, even if it won't accomplish anything, she's good at heart.

Seems like a much nicer person to hang out with than most people in this thread who are hatefulness and negativity incarnate.

More like she is trying to ruin lives of others.

[Ryme]

Why do most SJW females have dark rimmed glasses?

It's a common sight, isn't it? Horned or thick rim glasses, guppy mouths, coloured hair. Maybe I'm seeing patterns where none exist.

[josykay]

Why do most SJW females have dark rimmed glasses?

Probably because they are popular. Same reason, why RageAfterStorm had them.

[Deleted]

Anywhere else in the western world, she would have been the one taken off the place, and recieved a hefty fine... Not in sweeden though...

Its weird as hell, that Sweden is so close to Denmark, but yet, they are light years away on so many topics.

[Deathknightish]

The person was deported on another plane the very same day or the next one.

[Spectral]

If everyone had someone that loved them as much as ugly European women love refugees, the world would be a better place

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You clearly have no knowledge of the facts, so please refrain from speaking.

You are like the person who previously had the death-rate in traffic wrong by a factor of almost 20 in Sweden.
(And, just to be clear: Sweden has abolished estate taxes, and students normally don't pay income tax - but get paid by the state.)

The number of deaths from traffic was Afghanistan, if you cared to actually read what was posted.

State taxes for estates were replaced with it on municipal level.

Everyone pay some taxes simply by existing in Sweden as long as you consume due to VAT.