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  1. #101
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    My bet is on the Wisps!

    afterall they burned down a world tree once before

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_gPE2Ox70

    and we got a lot of whisps...

    btw, Chronicles agree!

    Countless incorporeal spirits known as wisps emerged from the forests around Hyjal. They closed in around Archimonde, but they did not attack him. At Malfurion's urging, they instead channeled their energies into the World Tree and ignited the enchantments within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    btw, Chronicles agree!
    Cool, now Chronicles retcons the cinematic you linked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

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    Been over this already on who burns it. Who was the one npc that constantly burnt everything. Give you a hint it rhymes with Gomi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivinara View Post
    I'd say...
    40% - Horde/Sylvanas, whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    40% - Azshara/naga, which imo is the only semi-acceptable replacement for the Horde.
    15% - Delaryn/Alliance burning it just so Sylvanas can't occupy it, because Blizzard hates the night elves that much.
    5% - We don't find out because letting players endlessly speculate is a good way to stoke the stupid faction war even if it's terrible for the story.

    Anyone on the Alliance burning it down just puts the final nail in the faction war coffin for me. It would prove, yet again, that things have to be absolutely equal with both factions ultimately destroying their own city.
    I am going to go with Azshara and her Old God overlords, with how the Warbringer videos are being set out is why I am thinking this way.. When you have Jaina bringing the war to the Horde, Sylvannas bringing the war to the Alliance.. I believe it will be Azshara that is bringing the war to both sides, and to do that she will send her agents to burn the tree to spark Alliance vengeance against Horde..

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    nop its jaina

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanoro View Post
    Cool, now Chronicles retcons the cinematic you linked.
    No, Archimonde doesn't get killed be the wisps, they are morally grey! They only burn the tree. really, believe blizzard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamespud View Post
    I'm placing my bet on Nomi being invited to the first annual Teldrassil Cooking Competition right before the battle and.. well...

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    btw, OT: not only is it "never outright said that she wants to destroy Teldrassil." but it's literally outright said that she wants to CAPTURE it, and it is completely counter to her plans.. so.. no.. it's not her.. directly.. indirectly? Possibly.. Maybe it was an accident? Guess we'll find out.
    Some of the Horde quest mobs in Darkshore yell, "Your tree will still burn." after you kill them. Sounds like they plan on setting Teldrassil on fire all along.

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    "Delaryn will burn it"

    Cause a Night Elf we've only quested with for a single week's TOTALLY gonna start this entire fucking War...

    Ugh...

    Some people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgusTheUnmaker View Post
    "Delaryn will burn it"

    Cause a Night Elf we've only quested with for a single week's TOTALLY gonna start this entire fucking War...

    Ugh...

    Some people...
    the war already started lol sylvanas attacking ashenvale is literally starting the war

    my bets are of course cultists, i don't know if delaryn is part of them already but if is not she then it would be azshara. she hates the nelfs for starting a rebelion.

    if it is genn or jaina (what i found pretty stupid but yet not impossible) then is going to be left as a mystery, these 2 play a major role in lordaeron and kultiras, if players know what he/she have done then no one would go to kul tiras to help them.

    and also that includes the civilians killed in astranar, sylvanas intended to have hostages, not an army of skeletons. to me sounds like the work of custilst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alixie View Post
    Some of the Horde quest mobs in Darkshore yell, "Your tree will still burn." after you kill them. Sounds like they plan on setting Teldrassil on fire all along.
    do you remember who or where these npcs say that? i am really curious it could be interesting.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    Azshara is my bet, her warbringer will come out, with her burning down the world tree, why we see that red background behind her, but of course it will be blamed on sylvanas
    Bet her Warbringer comes out today or tomorrow yeah ^^

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    We already know that Sylvans has blow up Undercity on the Loarderon event, to not let the Alliance get it.

    I will not be surprise if it's the same for Teldrassil, someone of the Alliance burns it to deny Horde a victory before retreating :O ! That will be a mirror plot.

    But my bet is on something else than Horde or Alliance, because i love plot twist and surprises But i really doubt it ^^ !

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Isilrien View Post
    Anduin seems to think that Sylvanas also has the title: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...duin_wrynn_to/
    Seeing that he wants her to send nudes from that letter could make her Queen of Porn. But yeah she is a Queen of the Forsaken, though that is a given title. Royalty titles are different. Queen Azshara got it by royalty, she was the next in line of rulers. But it all starts somewhere, so Sylvanas could be first in line. And Blizz see her as a Queen too, like myself, The Banshee Queen is a cool title and description of her. Then again, if she dies, will Nathanos then be King of the Forsaken?

    I do get what you mean, but there are differences in those titles. I could be a Dancing Queen, but I couldn't be the Queen of England. I couldn't be any of those things, since I am a man, but you get what I mean :P

    What Blizzard means by those WQs though, could be anything. Sylvanas, Azshara, Anduin, Delaryn or Azeroth herself, it's interesting. We'll see tomorrow I guess!

    Hey what if Azeroth sees the Tree is infected(old god shit) and burn it down herself with Azerite(her blood) #morallygrey

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    Used to be 80% sure Sylvanas burnt it down leaving 20% open for other possibilities. After the warbringers vid and the dialogues of week 1 i am more like 40% Sylv 40% inside job orchestrated by Jaina, 20% some other random event/person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgusTheUnmaker View Post
    "Delaryn will burn it"

    Cause a Night Elf we've only quested with for a single week's TOTALLY gonna start this entire fucking War...

    Ugh...

    Some people...

    the war started when sylvanas marched into night elven lands.
    the burning is just pinnacle of the assault.


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    Quote Originally Posted by etheldald View Post
    the war already started lol sylvanas attacking ashenvale is literally starting the war
    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    the war started when sylvanas marched into night elven lands.
    The Sylvanas Internet Defense Force will be along shortly for your reeducation. Silly people, responsibility is for others, not the Horde!
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex86el View Post
    "Orc want, orc take." and "Orc dissagrees, orc kill you to win argument."
    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    The Horde is basically the guy that gets mad that the guy that they just beat the crap out of had the audacity to bleed on them.
    Why no, people don't just like Sylvie for T&A: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ery-Cinematic/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doffen View Post
    Seeing that he wants her to send nudes from that letter could make her Queen of Porn. But yeah she is a Queen of the Forsaken, though that is a given title. Royalty titles are different. Queen Azshara got it by royalty, she was the next in line of rulers. But it all starts somewhere, so Sylvanas could be first in line. And Blizz see her as a Queen too, like myself, The Banshee Queen is a cool title and description of her. Then again, if she dies, will Nathanos then be King of the Forsaken?

    I do get what you mean, but there are differences in those titles. I could be a Dancing Queen, but I couldn't be the Queen of England. I couldn't be any of those things, since I am a man, but you get what I mean :P

    What Blizzard means by those WQs though, could be anything. Sylvanas, Azshara, Anduin, Delaryn or Azeroth herself, it's interesting. We'll see tomorrow I guess!

    Hey what if Azeroth sees the Tree is infected(old god shit) and burn it down herself with Azerite(her blood) #morallygrey
    I see your point. I was just saying that they're being a little ambiguous with the Queen song titles as to who they are alluding to. Royalty or not, they both have this title, and Sylvanas is quite active in Darkshore at the moment. I agree--it will be interesting to see if they answer this speculation tomorrow!

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Isilrien View Post
    I see your point. I was just saying that they're being a little ambiguous with the Queen song titles as to who they are alluding to. Royalty or not, they both have this title, and Sylvanas is quite active in Darkshore at the moment. I agree--it will be interesting to see if they answer this speculation tomorrow!
    Yeah, it's kinda cool they have kept that part from us. I am in EU so I can't do the quests before wednesday, but surely I can't wait so I'll go for the spoilers on the forums tomorrow!

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    I don't think so. In the unlikely event of yes, I think it will be an accident. I've played the horde side of her story on live, and she explicitly states no intention of burning the tree, only seizing it under military control to prevent the alliance using Rut'theran's docks to ship azerite around.

    Someone pointed out one of the night elves says some weirdly suspicious things in her dialogue, and I'm currently on board their crazy theory that she's a Twilight Cultist in disguise.

    And for goodness sake people if the beta has already spoiled this don't post it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morrizrowthelibrarian View Post
    Place your bets, place your bets!

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    I just don't know who.
    Does it matter? It happened because Sylvanas wanted to take over Teldrassil and kill Malfurion to try and cow the Night Elves into being good, subservient little prisoners. She's the one that ordered the attack and attempt to occupy, and the Horde have been killing civilians and destroying homes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgusTheUnmaker View Post
    "Delaryn will burn it"

    Cause a Night Elf we've only quested with for a single week's TOTALLY gonna start this entire fucking War...

    Ugh...

    Some people...
    It's... it's already called the 'War of Thorns'. They're at war already, bro.

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    It will because of someone being manipulated by an old god or Azshara/Naga.
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