R.I.P Group Finder Addons

[Nnyco]

well thats thanks to those lazy bastards that created hundreds of groups in lfg who afk on a world quest

[sarym13]

So you can’t afk for all of them anymore = good progress

I can still AFK for all of them. Literally every WQ that gets posted I can still AFK in. The only thing is without the WQ add-ons people aren't making them left and right through 1 button press. So the only WQ you see up now are the Elite ones.

I however have a feeling we'll see a lot of WQ groups for both Elite and Non elite BFA WQs. Even though WQ addons are essentially dead now, WQs themself are pretty much pointless at this point. So we're not seeing very many of them because of that.

Either way I highly doubt Blizzard is going through all of this because of players like myself not participating in WQ's. It is likely due to the fact this is for the most part automated, and people using this to get a fresh slate of mobs for skinning/mining at a constant rate.

[cfStatic]

If you want to start making some sense then feel free to try again. Otherwise your cute attempt there will just be ignored. All evidence points to the fact that I am right since, you know, Blizzard blocked it

There's not even proof that it's 100% intentional at this point, but okay.

[Tradu]

Im confused, do yall actually fail so spectacularly at the most base concept of the game (questing) that you need help to do, as many people in here are stating, "non elite" quests?

Is there some other angle to this im actually not understanding?

Grouping up is faster, but apparently Blizzard doesn't like it when people group up for WQs, seeing as they've made the experience of finding/creating groups for them(even manually) much worse than it was in the past.

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So you can’t afk for all of them anymore = good progress

Yeah, so they "fix" the issue of people afking WQs... and as a side effect make it extremely obnoxious for everybody else to group up for them as well. That's not a win.

[MinTDH]

GM is saying it looks to be intentional. Wow.

[8bithamster]

author of lfg addon just posted this on comment of their addon:
I WARN YOU BLIZZARD. If you keep pruning something you shouldn't do, you are destroying this game. There is no way to filter advertisements ESPECIALLY in CHINESE region (where 90% of LFG groups are spamming) without this LFG AddOn. You disabled old models, i just wanna slain all of you. If you keep doing shit, i'll fight against you to the end. I have successfully brought back old models. I WILL HACK YOUR SERVER AND DESTROY YOUR FUCKING AND CORRUPT COMPANY AT ANY COST. THIS OLD MODEL is a warning to you. I will hack you files to make this work if you keep doing shit. I live in China, i am not afraid of you, Chinese Law will protect me. We will fight capitalism to the end.

well, expect ddos attacks at bfa start?

Wow.. if that is your attitude as an addon developer, your stuff deserves to be removed. What a kid..

[Masqerader]

What the f%^k blizzard why are you making group finder addons not fun.. this is why people are leaving.

Yes everything you don't like results in a mass exodus of tens of players

[Unforgivenn]

Wow.. if that is your attitude as an addon developer, your stuff deserves to be removed. What a kid..

wtf?

i am not the author of addon and i never made an addon for wow LOL

[MrExcelion]

Some of you are not thinking this through.

I’ve been catching up on Fisherfriends this week. Up until today it was great. Easy cooperative gameplay with minimal fuss. Until today.

Today we had to fold and reassemble a group for this SIX TIMES. The original creator leaves when they max out. The random guy who gets lead may or may not relist... or even bother to accept new members. In one case a griefer got it and refused to relist.

Searching for another group had been easy. I tried four times to get into a Corbyn fisher friend group. Only one was successful.

Many of you have your reasons why you are okay with auto accept going away. You’re wrong. You’re not seeing the bigger picture.

what he said. no auto accept sucks

[Thetruth1400]

Im confused, do yall actually fail so spectacularly at the most base concept of the game (questing) that you need help to do, as many people in here are stating, "non elite" quests?

Is there some other angle to this im actually not understanding?

Basic common sense is what you're failing to understand.

No one is saying, "Oh, I can't do this content solo so let me group." They're saying, "This is boring, repetitive content with very little value other than easy gold / Azerite Power / War Resources that I need to do core aspects of this game, so let me get this over with as quickly as possible by clicking one button to join a group instead of wasting my time finding a group via your tool / soloing this."

[Wiltrold]

I'm just gonna quote myself:
It's so hilarious that people cried for YEARS about LFD and LFR being tools that "killed" wow because of their automation and now you guys cry over an automated part of a tool being removed so that you no longer can just ride past your quest NPC, let your addon auto-join a group, get insta-credit because your party members killed it, and leave. All without even dismounting or taking your eyes off the porn on your left monitor. Jesus christ I hate the hypocrisy.

[Dartz1979]

The devs and coders are gonna be the ones that kill WoW cause they don't want players to have fun with addons.

[Deleted]

You seriously underestimate the lengths people will go to when it comes to avoiding playing the game if the option is available.

Which is why any step that makes it more cumbersome for them is great

[MinTDH]

I'm just gonna quote myself:
It's so hilarious that people cried for YEARS about LFD and LFR being tools that "killed" wow because of their automation and now you guys cry over an automated part of a tool being removed so that you no longer can just ride past your quest NPC, let your addon auto-join a group, get insta-credit because your party members killed it, and leave. All without even dismounting or taking your eyes off the porn on your left monitor. Jesus christ I hate the hypocrisy.

Did it ever occur to you that those that complained about LFD and LFR may be entirely different people from those complaining about this now? You're free to prove me wrong, but I feel that it's worth noting because this comes up a lot and it never makes sense.

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Which is why any step that makes it more cumbersome for them is great

Great how? It doesn't stop them and hurts those who used the group finder normally.

[Deleted]

There's not even proof that it's 100% intentional at this point, but okay.

Yes there is. They literally came out and said they would try and put a stop to this a while ago

[MinTDH]

wtf?

i am not the author of addon and i never made an addon for wow LOL

He never meant to direct that at you, don't worry.

[Kokolums]

The general theory about why this is happening is War Mode. Blizzard really wants war mode to be a success. However world quest group finder was breaking war mode because it was too easy to escape pvp by clicking a button in the addon to join a WQ group and thereby shard out. If they allowed people to do this, war mode becomes pointless and there will be no Pvp.

The solution was to break all WQ group automation to make people at least have to type out the name of WQs and then get manually accepted instead of auto-join. The goal is to cause enough of a delay to make “war mode pvp escape by WQ” not a solution.

Once they broke WQ group finder in war mode, they had to break it in normal mode otherwise it becomes a tremendous incentive to never switch war mode on....

If there is enough of an outcry they might reverse this and try something else to protect the integrity of war mode. If the outcry is too small, we’ll probably be stuck with this for bfa but it might get reverted next xpac.

[Tradu]

Which is why any step that makes it more cumbersome for them is great

It makes it more cumbersome for players not using addons as well, which is not worth it.

[Deleted]

Did it ever occur to you that those that complained about LFD and LFR may be entirely different people from those complaining about this now? You're free to prove me wrong, but I feel that it's worth noting because this comes up a lot and it never makes sense.

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Great how? It doesn't stop them and hurts those who used the group finder normally.

You didn’t use it normally you used an add on to automatically find groups. Less of that is good for the game overall

[rda]

Posted in another thread:

It is pretty terrible.

The actions of the dev team just continue screaming "we are incapable monkeys (aka: we kept losing people to dev teams for other games) so we are going to just disable shit left and right hoping to achieve what we want". The implementation of the API used by the mobile AH has vulnerabilities which make it impossible to use with untrusted clients because malicious clients can create duplicates of items? Instead of removing vulnerabilities, let's disable the mobile AH. Players want to auto-form groups and some idiot at Blizzard doesn't want some groups forming for some reason (they cannot formulate clearly what it is that they don't want happening)? Let's disable tons of stuff and keep disabling whatever players try to use to work around the artificial restriction, hoping this will be enough to achieve what the idiot wants.

Blizzard are like the Russian government that wanted to block Telegram but couldn't figure out anything better than blocking IPs, with predictable results (blocking is ineffective because the target service just uses dynamic IPs from a big pool and every now and then when they ban part of that pool, they hit completely unrelated services which complain, while the target service only suffers minute partial damage).

It is completely obvious that the fight will now move on to server chat and communuty chat (if you can invite people from there). And at least at the level of server chat, Blizzard will have to stop and accept a loss, because the alternative is worse. All this because someone at Blizzard is being an idiot and the dev team in general is lacking capability to do things like that for real, all they are good for is disabling stuff hoping that they disable enough.