So Vol'jin was delusional when he appointed Sylvanas warchief?

[Pandragon]

Bwonsamdi only gets the souls of a troll or one killed by a troll who worships him. He wouldn't benefit from a majority of the souls in this war.

Your point? Any soul sent to him makes him stronger. He would still gain hundreds of souls from a war.

[Leyre]

[Darththeo]

Sylvanas would have preferred to stay in the shadows as opposed to be the Warchief (this is confirmed, 100% Sylvanas didn't want to be Warchief.) This means either the Loa wanted her to be warchief for some reason or that something pretending to be a Loa did. Why that is, we don't yet know.

It could be as bad as Sylvanas is currently, she would have been worse if left to her own devices.

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

How is everyone missing the most obvious explaination? If things didn't progress exactly how they did since Vol'jin's death, the Zandalari might never have joined the horde. Burning of Teldrassil, Battle of Lordaeron & the rescue of Talanji by the Horde were all intregal to a new unified Troll empire

Also, Loa (aka Troll 'Gods') will feature A LOT in BfA storylines- just keep your eyes open and clues will show up. Not going to spoil anything for those not tried beta or read books.

[chazus]

An untold story that has yet to be revealed why Sylvanas was chosen by him?

How is this not the obvious answer? People are flipping out about stuff that isn't even available yet, when we -know- it isn't about the Horde vs Alliance.

[Th3Scourge]

(at 55sec mark) He claims that the spirit has granted him vision and that many will not understand, but that she must step out of the shadows and lead.
So, was he delusional or possessed? Or maybe something third? An untold story that has yet to be revealed why Sylvanas was chosen by him?

To be fair, had Jaina not showed up, her plan to cut the head off the Alliance in the throne room would have worked.

On a side note, the score for this cinematic is one of the best in WoW

[Niaraa]

I kinda like this theory. It forces her to step out of the shadows and show her true colors to all.

like this idea! but with bliz all things are so simple "who burn the tree???" "sylvanas!"

[Strawberry]

Sylvanas is likely the key player in the coming war against the Void, which fears her.

God I hope they won't pull that out of their hat.
We just had Illidan vs the Legion. Now we get Sylvanas vs the Void?

Also, if they pull Garrosh 2.0, that would be lame as well.

[frogbound]

Wasn't it Bwonsamdi who told him he should appoint Sylvanas?
We will see a lot of Bwonsamdi in BfA... so we will most likely find out why.

[drukai]

I'm of the opinion that Sylvanas had learned to manipulate spirits at this point. She's clearly versed in controlling the dead - what kinda leap is there from Skeleton to Loa, we have no idea.

[Detheavn]

To be fair, had Jaina not showed up, her plan to cut the head off the Alliance in the throne room would have worked.

If Jaina had not shown up, the Alliance wouldn't even been in the throne room. They were forced to retreat until she showed up with her airship.

[Deleted]

Blah blah blah sylvanas does not abide by todays moral standards blah blah blah evil.
Everyone ignoring the part where she tells saurfang that she does not give a shit about his honor because while "he would send his troops to die an honorable death to her this Horde is worth saving".
She might not be doing it your way but guess what.
Inb4 she killed her own troops in the battle for lordaeron. She gave everyone plenty of time to evacuate before using the blight. The ones that remained were mainly orc that wanted to keep fighting honorably and a few tauren.

[Kaver]

(at 55sec mark) He claims that the spirit has granted him vision and that many will not understand, but that she must step out of the shadows and lead.
So, was he delusional or possessed? Or maybe something third? An untold story that has yet to be revealed why Sylvanas was chosen by him?

A theory: Can Sylvanas as the Banshee Queen manipulate spirits? If so, she could have a hand in Vol’jins choice.

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Sylvanas would have preferred to stay in the shadows as opposed to be the Warchief (this is confirmed, 100% Sylvanas didn't want to be Warchief.) This means either the Loa wanted her to be warchief for some reason or that something pretending to be a Loa did. Why that is, we don't yet know.

It could be as bad as Sylvanas is currently, she would have been worse if left to her own devices.

How do we know that Sylvanas didn’t want to be Warchief? Her saying so could be a cover up.

[FelPlague]

A theory: Can Sylvanas as the Banshee Queen manipulate spirits? If so, she could have a hand in Vol’jins choice.

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How do we know that Sylvanas didn’t want to be Warchief? Her saying so could be a cover up.

Spirits yes
Loa are an entirely different thing

[Azerox]

Vision was corrupted by an Old God. Probably.

[Kwento]

I wish there was an explanation, but at this point it’s almost like Gendalf saying that Gollum had a role to play in the atory ahead. Writers can come up with any future story that could justify Vol’jin appointing Sylvanas.

[Kaver]

Spirits yes
Loa are an entirely different thing

But lets say Sylvanas can manipulate some spirits. Could these spirits then potentially trick Vol’jin in a wounded state to think they resprent the Loa?

[Darththeo]

How do we know that Sylvanas didn’t want to be Warchief? Her saying so could be a cover up.

Because she said it to herself and not out loud.

[Zulkhan]

I'm of the opinion that Sylvanas had learned to manipulate spirits at this point. She's clearly versed in controlling the dead - what kinda leap is there from Skeleton to Loa, we have no idea.

It's nothing comparable, at all. The Loa are Wild Gods, spirits of nature. Usually, they aren't connected to the realm of Death and even when they are, they are the ones controlling or manipulating those spirits at most, as Bwonsamdi shows.

But lets say Sylvanas can manipulate some spirits. Could these spirits then potentially trick Vol’jin in a wounded state to think they resprent the Loa?

She can't manipulate the Loa, nor there is a way in hell that she can somehow convince the top Shadow Hunter around that those who showed him visions and shit aren't Loa. Vol'jin was hurt and agonizing, he wasn't mad or out of his mind.

Besides, this theory has absolutely zero merits at all, since it's Sylvanas cursing "Vol'jin and his Loa" for a position of power she never wanted and she does so in her own thoughts, which means it's 100% the truth.

[Kaver]

Because she said it to herself and not out loud.

When did she do that? I’m asking because I’m curious and interested in seeing it. Nothing spiteful.

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It's nothing comparable, at all. The Loa are Wild Gods, spirits of nature. Usually, they aren't connected to the realm of Death and even when they are, they are the ones controlling or manipulating those spirits at most, as Bwonsamdi shows.



She can't manipulate the Loa, nor there is a way in hell that she can somehow convince the top Shadow Hunter around that those who showed him visions and shit aren't Loa. Vol'jin was hurt and agonizing, he wasn't mad or out of his mind.

Besides, this theory has absolutely zero merits at all, since it's Sylvanas cursing "Vol'jin and his Loa" for a position of power she never wanted and she does so in her own thoughts, which means it's 100% the truth.

This theory was based on Vol’jin being delusional because of infection in his injured state. Maybe it could be possible to trick him with a “false Loa” in that state.