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    Horde Will Mu'sha abandon the Tauren?

    Just looking at the devastation the Horde has wrought upon Elune's most ardent worshippers, it's hard to imagine her not taking sides in the faction war when the Horde is being lead in the service of death. And yet still, the Tauren remain.

    Baine seemed to sneer knowingly as the Horde set out to "Silithus" in A Good War, but he didn't stop Tauren braves, shamen and kodo riders from joining the assault on the Kaldorei either. Will the people of Mulgore still walk in Mu'sha's light? Or have they scorned her and fallen from favor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    Just looking at the devastation the Horde has wrought upon Elune's most ardent worshippers, it's hard to imagine her not taking sides in the faction war when the Horde is being lead in the service of death. And yet the Tauren remain.

    Baine seemed to sneer knowingly as the Horde set out to "Silithus" in A Good War, but he didn't stop Tauren braves, shamen and kodo riders from joining the assault on the Kaldorei either. Will the people of Mulgore still walk in Mu'sha's light? Or have scorned her and fallen from favor?
    And why would he? If he had refused, he'd be branded a traitor and the tauren probably would've been thrown out of the Horde. He was fully aware of the plan, and was clearly not against it. He didn't know about Teldrassil getting burned down however.

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    Because Elune as such as active history of directly intervening in mortal affairs.....

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    The Tauren Have the greatest loyalty to the Horde 2nd only to the Darkspear (and the Orcs...but they kinda are the Horde imo, or the foundation for it). The Forsaken and the Blood Elves might have an easier time changing alliances, but not the Tauren. If I remember right, they were facing near extinction until Thrall showed up in WC 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    Just looking at the devastation the Horde has wrought upon Elune's most ardent worshippers, it's hard to imagine her not taking sides in the faction war when the Horde is being lead in the service of death. And yet still, the Tauren remain.

    Baine seemed to sneer knowingly as the Horde set out to "Silithus" in A Good War, but he didn't stop Tauren braves, shamen and kodo riders from joining the assault on the Kaldorei either. Will the people of Mulgore still walk in Mu'sha's light? Or have they scorned her and fallen from favor?
    Can we stop with that whole "service of death"/"making life her enemy" and all that bullshit. Those are just overly dramatic lines spoken by night elves in an already very dramatic situation.

    Baine wanted to find out from Saurfang what the plan was and whose plan it was. Once Saurfang confirmed the plan is his, that was Sufficient for Baine to trust in the mission of the army.

    And tauren and nelves have fought and killed each other before, this time the scale was just bigger, so personally i dont see a reason why anything would change from a divine perspective... but then again it is blizz writing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadguyNotBadGuy View Post
    Can we stop with that whole "service of death"/"making life her enemy" and all that bullshit. Those are just overly dramatic lines spoken by night elves in an already very dramatic situation.
    A necromancer was fighting a druid 10 seconds before that.
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    Our moral understanding of good and evil does not matter to a god. Or petty quarrels is none of her concern. She only cares about your worship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sails View Post
    Because Elune as such as active history of directly intervening in mortal affairs.....
    Yeah, the last time she did we got the worgen, and that did such a world of good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    A necromancer was fighting a druid 10 seconds before that.
    Sylvanas isn't a Necromancer.

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    I hope so - I think the whole druidism theme doesn't really fit to the tauren anyways.
    When I think of tauren I think of indian cows and then shamans make the best fit.

    Would be cool of moonglade and all other druid places would be for nightelves only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    A necromancer was fighting a druid 10 seconds before that.
    aye, but what im saying is that folk seem to be taking the lines of two characters as a direct representation of the narrative being woven... which is wrong. And nelves has a penchant for drama

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    Tauren are a bunch of hypocrites.
    If they really favoured mother nature so much, hey wouldve left the Horde years ago.

    All Horde races are in this now. They are all accountable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The World View Post
    Sylvanas isn't a Necromancer.
    Raising dead soldiers to do her bidding as undead puppets is necromancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    Tauren are a bunch of hypocrites.
    If they really favoured mother nature so much, hey wouldve left the Horde years ago.

    All Horde races are in this now. They are all accountable.
    Agreed. Orcs and Forsaken harm nature since ever.

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    Well, same thing with Elune is, are they even real “god” beings out there? We don’t even know if they are thinking like other creatures or are rather abstract things like the light. It’s not really explained or shown somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    Just looking at the devastation the Horde has wrought upon Elune's most ardent worshippers, it's hard to imagine her not taking sides in the faction war when the Horde is being lead in the service of death. And yet still, the Tauren remain.

    Baine seemed to sneer knowingly as the Horde set out to "Silithus" in A Good War, but he didn't stop Tauren braves, shamen and kodo riders from joining the assault on the Kaldorei either. Will the people of Mulgore still walk in Mu'sha's light? Or have they scorned her and fallen from favor?
    I'm pretty sure he's stuck because he was corresponding with Anduin and Sylvanas knows this and he knows Sylvanas knows it. So he'd basically be a traitor and that puts him/his people at risk so for the time being he's gotta just roll with it? Idk.. I think that could be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post
    Will the people of Mulgore still walk in Mu'sha's light? Or have they scorned her and fallen from favor?
    Yes. All tauren druid characters will be deleted from servers. Seriously, what do you expect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaterasu65 View Post
    Agreed. Orcs and Forsaken harm nature since ever.
    I'm not saying you're wrong but I think there is a difference between chopping down trees for needed lumber and blighting the landscape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Yes. All tauren druid characters will be deleted from servers. Seriously, what do you expect?
    If I'm to take your question as less than facetious, then I expect this might develop as something along the lines of the orc shamen of Draenor losing their connection to the elements, or the Light abandoning a Paladin. As for it's failure to impact the balance of the game, this could be circumvented with a statement about Zen'tabra helping them or simply ignored.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    "There is another person on the other end of the chat screen. They're our friends; they're our brothers and sisters; they're our sons and daughters. Let's take a stand to reject hate and harassment, and let's redouble our efforts to be kind and respectful to one another, and let's remind the world what the gaming community is really all about."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadguyNotBadGuy View Post
    Can we stop with that whole "service of death"/"making life her enemy" and all that bullshit. Those are just overly dramatic lines spoken by night elves in an already very dramatic situation.
    No it is not overly dramtic lines. In before the storm, she touches azerite and sees a future, a dream for her, of all races killed and raised as forsaken and she rules over them as a not just a warcheif but a godess of death. THAT is her own thoughs that is not a night elf who said that, it was not a High shaman who assumed so. that was her own ideas and dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sails View Post
    Because Elune as such as active history of directly intervening in mortal affairs.....
    only NE tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Why would she? They did nothing wrong.
    so i will start the hashtag now #slyvdidnothingwrong
    or is it too soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragemv View Post
    No it is not overly dramtic lines. In before the storm, she touches azerite and sees a future, a dream for her, of all races killed and raised as forsaken and she rules over them as a not just a warcheif but a godess of death. THAT is her own thoughs that is not a night elf who said that, it was not a High shaman who assumed so. that was her own ideas and dream
    how the NE knew that is beyond me.
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    the only "positive" in your case is that, unlike Blizzard's writers, you aren't paid for that.

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