Mag'har priests

[Syegfryed]

yeah. the problem is, blizzards not done much to establish if it could work this way though. Could holy magic be accessed on the faith someone has for their ancestors, and if so, why didn't the orcs do it before. As it goes with the shadowmoon clan they only started to use shadow magic when the dark star fell to draenor, before that they were star gazers, so its not that deep in their culture.

yes holy magic can be accesed on faith on their ancestors, cause to use light or holy magic you just need faith in something or willpower.

i don't member they saying they only use shadow magic after the darkstart, maybe they amplified after it

The problem with blizzards contrived writing is they miss out important details that could just briefly explain how these things work, doesn't even have to be a thing in the game, could just be a mention in one of their warchief graphic novels or guides, like how it was discovered by brann that orcs were distant ancestors to the Gronn.

this is blizzard so? not surprised? everything will be half-done or missing details

[NatePsy]

I would venture to guess maybe they've been exposed to fellow green Orc's that are priests, likely Argent Dawn/Crusade affiliated and have become influenced to the point of taking up the light for the same reasons these Orcs took up the Light. If I remember right, the Naaru of our world aren't as crazed as the ones in Draenor, right?

[Venziir]

Well, the only mag'har priests we actually see are the "Mag'har Darkcasters", which are all Shadowmoon shadow priests.

[omeomorfismo]

yeah. the problem is, blizzards not done much to establish if it could work this way though. Could holy magic be accessed on the faith someone has for their ancestors, and if so, why didn't the orcs do it before. As it goes with the shadowmoon clan they only started to use shadow magic when the dark star fell to draenor, before that they were star gazers, so its not that deep in their culture.

The problem with blizzards contrived writing is they miss out important details that could just briefly explain how these things work, doesn't even have to be a thing in the game, could just be a mention in one of their warchief graphic novels or guides, like how it was discovered by brann that orcs were distant ancestors to the Gronn.

thats not entirely true. after all they are shadow priest for a lot more time than humans are paladins.

[Trassk]

thats not entirely true. after all they are shadow priest for a lot more time than humans are paladins.

You sure about that? We don't have any real proof how the shadowmoon orcs operated before. However we have the shadowmoon exiles who don't follow the rest of the clans way of doing things.

[omeomorfismo]

You sure about that? We don't have any real proof how the shadowmoon orcs operated before. However we have the shadowmoon exiles who don't follow the rest of the clans way of doing things.

they are priest since before ~first war (or whenever wod is located)
paladin born in the middle of second war

[melzas]

We have Lightforged Dreanei and Tauren who can be shadow priests gameplay wise. Dark Iron dwarves who can be resto shamans and frost mages. Void elves and forsaken who can be holy priests.

You won't find any in-game explanation for these race/spec combinations because it doesn't exist. Sure, you can rp whatever you like and twist the lore to fit your character, but in reality these combinations don't exist or are extremely rare. Mag'har Holy priest is no different.

[Venziir]

You sure about that? We don't have any real proof how the shadowmoon orcs operated before. However we have the shadowmoon exiles who don't follow the rest of the clans way of doing things.

That's not quite true, Chronicles Vol 2 gave us quite a bit of knowledge regarding that subject.

[Deleted]

not quite. If your remember examples in outland like the auchanei, they were priests who developed darker magics in line with their death worship. Humans and dwarves easily can adopt shadow magic they are not bound to holy, same with blood elves.

Also as its already been established we fight against light bound orcs in that scenario showing orcs can use holy magic, so whatever outdated piece of lore claiming that can't do because of faction principles (you know the one that also claimed shamans only belonged in the horde and paladins in the alliance), its showing now they just about anyone can use holy magic and it isn't restricted, its just another source of power to be manipulated like shadow magic.

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think your find equal levels of stupidity is on both sides of the factions these days.

This is the RP Subforum. So I am talking about what would be common and accepted for the priest of its respective race to use IC. And IC, a Mag'har Orc should and would be a Shadowuser from the Shadowmoon Clan. This is their Lore and this is what the NPCs indicate. It is about what would be immersive. And in this case, most humans outside of some underground cultists are Light Priests, just like with Blood Elves, most Forsaken would be Shadow or Discipline with a few holy priests, most Draenei outside of the Auchenai about whom we don't really know anything are light, all Lightforged are light, all Void Elves are Shadow, outside of one exemption jungle trolls are shadow. You can play a Mag'har Lightpriest, for sure, but this wouldn't only be probably rather special snowflakey, but it would be the legitimate action of any other Mag'har to suspect you to be a lightbound and kill you.

[Trassk]

This is the RP Subforum. So I am talking about what would be common and accepted for the priest of its respective race to use IC. And IC, a Mag'har Orc should and would be a Shadowuser from the Shadowmoon Clan. This is their Lore and this is what the NPCs indicate. It is about what would be immersive. And in this case, most humans outside of some underground cultists are Light Priests, just like with Blood Elves, most Forsaken would be Shadow or Discipline with a few holy priests, most Draenei outside of the Auchenai about whom we don't really know anything are light, all Lightforged are light, all Void Elves are Shadow, outside of one exemption jungle trolls are shadow. You can play a Mag'har Lightpriest, for sure, but this wouldn't only be probably rather special snowflakey, but it would be the legitimate action of any other Mag'har to suspect you to be a lightbound and kill you.

see that makes a lot of sense, given that happened with them. However, a disc priest is a priest who makes use of both shadow and light magics, therefore showing the fact that are only using light magics as a power source and not because their bound to it. After all if that were the logic, any mag'har would see a holy magic using tauren, blood elf or any priest who uses that kind of magic and assume the same. I think the mag'har know the difference between those who simply use the light, and those who are bound by it.