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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://twitter.com/ClaraJeffery/sta...80991069040640

    Wanna know why alleged victims are unwilling to come out against their alleged assailants, especially if they are remotely high profile?



    This is why. Because there aren't many folks who want to effectively have to go into hiding as a result.
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    I've stopped talking to random women for any kind of reason. If I see one walking into a store before me, I freeze. I won't move until she's fully inside and on her way. I damn sure won't be having sex with any of them anymore. Thank goodness for porn and masturbation.
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  2. #442
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    Good news then, women are wising up and leaving the Republican party in droves.

    https://www.thelily.com/have-white-c...ublican-party/

    College educated white women have always been a lynchpin for the GOP, it's how they stay in control of suburban districts. But not anymore.
    That graph.... no wonder some republicans are getting worried about the political consequences of placing an attempted rapist onto the SCOTUS. I don't think it'll stop them though. They made a known sexual assaulter president. They just failed at placing a pedophile who preyed on teenage girls onto the senate.

    It's pretty obvious they are too far gone into degeneracy and depravity to change their ways, so they'll seat an attempted rapist onto SCOTUS without a doubt. It'll be up to those of us who still have morals, both men and women, to vote the degenerates out so we can start to undo the damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    I think I found the problem they have with her, plus her accusing a conservative of it, can't have that.
    She has on shoes.
    She's not in the kitchen.
    She does have kids, so she's 1 for 3 in their book.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Apparently she submitted to a polygraph test in August, and she has therapist notes dating back 6 years that detail the incident.
    a polygraph is not a truth detector, it only measures your own ability to believe your own story based on measurements that aren't admissible in court and aren't always accurate. If for example she had no fucking clue as to who did this to her and then somewhere between now and 40 years ago when she was 15 she convinced herself it was brett by whatever means a person can try to pinpoint blame on someone, the detector would say she would pass.

    Honestly, she cant get her story straight. She doesn't really know where or when it occurred, cant seem to get who was supposedly in the room or how many. She was 15 apparently and was drinking in house party she cant identify. Kavanaugh denies even being there and the other "witness" also denies it. Now apparently she wants the FBI to "investigate" this, by what she really means is to postpone the nomination process before even testifying in an open or closed session so they cant ask her questions about the matter. Get fucking real. This whole story was ginned up and dropped at the last minute to try and deny Trump another SCOTUS pick in hopes the senate will go full retard after the election and vote in democrats. Oh it will risk literally destroy a mans life in the process? fuck that right leaning, straight, white male. Full democrat retard trump derangement syndrome mode engaged.

    Democrats = evil. Period
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  5. #445
    Quote Originally Posted by ezgeze View Post
    a polygraph is not a truth detector, it only measures your own ability to believe your own story based on measurements that aren't admissible in court and aren't always accurate. If for example she had no fucking clue as to who did this to her and then somewhere between now and 40 years ago when she was 15 she convinced herself it was brett by whatever means a person can try to pinpoint blame on someone, the detector would say she would pass.
    Spies have been able to beat polygraph tests, in some cases several times.

    But in the larger picture, everybody's going into their own camps on this one. It's already become extremely partisan, even when so many questions remain unanswered, and testimony is yet to be heard. Already there are those stating affirmatively that he is an attempted rapist.

    It's terrible if these accusations are true, and it's terrible if they're false. Nobody wins.
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  6. #446
    Quote Originally Posted by ezgeze View Post
    remember folks

    this is an almost a 40 year old claim made by a woman who have multiple holes in her story and cannot even get her story straight apparently. Who hires a lawyer who said that its not the "victims" responsibility to corroborate her story. A claim that came out after apparently Bretts mother ruled against the "victims" parents as a judge (but she is paying them back right? Nope, too early by about 20 years.) Claimed she wasn't alone in the room and points a finger at guy #2 but he adamantly denies it. This "victim" then says that she was afraid of the story getting out but goes to the media and gives a statement to the evil hag from California which she promptly sits on it for months without bringing it up in a handful of meetings, closed door sessions, etc and then drops it after the last minute and demands a FBI investigation. Demands a halt to a vote. Yeah Anita Hill 2.0 based on a she said he x2 said. Democrats are fucking evil to the core and are willing to destroy a mans life over an incident you cannot collect evidence because they are butthurt over garland. The world would be a lot nicer place is the left would just die off.
    Quote Originally Posted by ezgeze View Post
    a polygraph is not a truth detector, it only measures your own ability to believe your own story based on measurements that aren't admissible in court and aren't always accurate. If for example she had no fucking clue as to who did this to her and then somewhere between now and 40 years ago when she was 15 she convinced herself it was brett by whatever means a person can try to pinpoint blame on someone, the detector would say she would pass.

    Honestly, she cant get her story straight. She doesn't really know where or when it occurred, cant seem to get who was supposedly in the room or how many. She was 15 apparently and was drinking in house party she cant identify. Kavanaugh denies even being there and the other "witness" also denies it. Now apparently she wants the FBI to "investigate" this, by what she really means is to postpone the nomination process before even testifying in an open or closed session so they cant ask her questions about the matter. Get fucking real. This whole story was ginned up and dropped at the last minute to try and deny Trump another SCOTUS pick in hopes the senate will go full retard after the election and vote in democrats. Oh it will risk literally destroy a mans life in the process? fuck that right leaning, straight, white male. Full democrat retard trump derangement syndrome mode engaged.

    Democrats = evil. Period
    You want the left to die off, but it's the Democrats who are evil. You're not even the first Republican to recently want to kill off the left. If anything it looks like you are the evil one.

  7. #447
    I remember a time when calling a group of people retarded, evil, and wishing death upon them was infraction worthy.

  8. #448
    Quote Originally Posted by Bdatik View Post
    I remember a time when calling a group of people retarded, evil, and wishing death upon them was infraction worthy.
    Indeed

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...l#post50133655

  9. #449
    Quote Originally Posted by ezgeze View Post
    remember folks

    this is an almost a 40 year old claim made by a woman who have multiple holes in her story and cannot even get her story straight apparently. Who hires a lawyer who said that its not the "victims" responsibility to corroborate her story. A claim that came out after apparently Bretts mother ruled against the "victims" parents as a judge (but she is paying them back right? Nope, too early by about 20 years.) Claimed she wasn't alone in the room and points a finger at guy #2 but he adamantly denies it. This "victim" then says that she was afraid of the story getting out but goes to the media and gives a statement to the evil hag from California which she promptly sits on it for months without bringing it up in a handful of meetings, closed door sessions, etc and then drops it after the last minute and demands a FBI investigation. Demands a halt to a vote. Yeah Anita Hill 2.0 based on a she said he x2 said. Democrats are fucking evil to the core and are willing to destroy a mans life over an incident you cannot collect evidence because they are butthurt over garland. The world would be a lot nicer place is the left would just die off.
    Where to begin with this...

    1. The whole "Brett's mother foreclosed on her" is false.

    2. Matt Judge's denial isn't proof she's lying.

    3. What happened was she told Diane Feinstein about it, and asked that she not divulge it. Then it leaked to the media, and that's when she decided to come forward.

    4. Comparing Dr. Ford to Anita Hill doesn't make you look good. You realize this, right?

    5. The problem with "she said he said x2" is that one he is a known sex creep, and the other has already perjured himself 5 times.

    6. Yes, his life will be ruined by *squint* him not being one of the most powerful people in the country and having to remain as a federal judge until the day he dies. How tragic.

    7. We have evidence. Her testimony is evidence.
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  10. #450
    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    5. The problem with "she said he said x2" is that one he is a known sex creep, and the other has already perjured himself 5 times.
    Both of these things are major news stories if true. The former I haven't even heard of, the latter has been claimed by certain outlets, but certainly not by any major news outlet of any note. And certainly not by anyone in the Senate, including his most ardent Democratic opponents.

  11. #451
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Both of these things are major news stories if true. The former I haven't even heard of, the latter has been claimed by certain outlets, but certainly not by any major news outlet of any note. And certainly not by anyone in the Senate, including his most ardent Democratic opponents.
    The latter is pretty provably true. The evidence is freely available. We can say undeniably based on that evidence that either Kavanaugh perjured himself, or Kavanaugh is a complete idiot. Because his defense seems to rest entirely on "I didn't understand the information I received was *that* information."

    Why don't the main media networks cover it? I don't know. It's kind of bizarre that Booker even went to extreme theatrics to call attention to it, but even the networks friendliest to him didn't give it more than an hour of attention.

    It would be fallacious, however, to say that it does not exist simply because a network won't cover it. To the contrary, to be consistent with the mainstream Trump supporter's narrative about the media, this should only make it more credible.

  12. #452
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    The latter is pretty provably true. The evidence is freely available. We can say undeniably based on that evidence that either Kavanaugh perjured himself, or Kavanaugh is a complete idiot. Because his defense seems to rest entirely on "I didn't understand the information I received was *that* information."

    Why don't the main media networks cover it? I don't know. It's kind of bizarre that Booker even went to extreme theatrics to call attention to it, but even the networks friendliest to him didn't give it more than an hour of attention.

    It would be fallacious, however, to say that it does not exist simply because a network won't cover it. To the contrary, to be consistent with the mainstream Trump supporter's narrative about the media, this should only make it more credible.
    Hmm. Makes you wonder why Feinstein, Booker, or any of Kavanaugh's other fierce Democratic critics never bothered to bring it up. What do you think? I know you mention Booker in there calling attention to it, but I don't recall him calling attention to perjury. I do remember Booker calling attention to emails, but none of them had to do with perjury.
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  13. #453
    Quote Originally Posted by ezgeze View Post
    a polygraph is not a truth detector, it only measures your own ability to believe your own story based on measurements that aren't admissible in court and aren't always accurate. If for example she had no fucking clue as to who did this to her and then somewhere between now and 40 years ago when she was 15 she convinced herself it was brett by whatever means a person can try to pinpoint blame on someone, the detector would say she would pass.

    Honestly, she cant get her story straight. She doesn't really know where or when it occurred, cant seem to get who was supposedly in the room or how many. She was 15 apparently and was drinking in house party she cant identify. Kavanaugh denies even being there and the other "witness" also denies it. Now apparently she wants the FBI to "investigate" this, by what she really means is to postpone the nomination process before even testifying in an open or closed session so they cant ask her questions about the matter. Get fucking real. This whole story was ginned up and dropped at the last minute to try and deny Trump another SCOTUS pick in hopes the senate will go full retard after the election and vote in democrats. Oh it will risk literally destroy a mans life in the process? fuck that right leaning, straight, white male. Full democrat retard trump derangement syndrome mode engaged.

    Democrats = evil. Period
    Then I'm sure Kavanaugh will submit to a polygraph, right?

    Yeah, we all know that will never happen.

    You are shilling for a guy who bragged about sexually assaulting women, you don't get to try and claim the moral high ground.

  14. #454
    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Then I'm sure Kavanaugh will submit to a polygraph, right?

    Yeah, we all know that will never happen.

    You are shilling for a guy who bragged about sexually assaulting women, you don't get to try and claim the moral high ground.
    I am actually surprised that they don't make Kavanaugh take a polygraph test as part of the FBI vetting process. After all, all FBI, CIA, and national security related jobs require the applicants to pass a polygraph test. In fact, 30% of FBI applicants were rejected because they don't pass the polygraph test.

  15. #455
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasulis View Post
    I am actually surprised that they don't make Kavanaugh take a polygraph test as part of the FBI vetting process. After all, all FBI, CIA, and national security related jobs require the applicants to pass a polygraph test. In fact, 30% of FBI applicants were rejected because they don't pass the polygraph test.
    The problem is that polygraphs are very extremely controversial. I have several friends who are police officers, and at least four of them have admitted to lying on a polygraph, and still passing. Now, it may not have been rigorous (it was the question about drugs), or the polygrapher simply did not care about the results of that question.

    Polygraphs can be beaten. I don't think for a second that Kavanaugh would ever agree to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Hmm. Makes you wonder why Feinstein, Booker, or any of Kavanaugh's other fierce Democratic critics never bothered to bring it up. What do you think? I know you mention Booker in there calling attention to it, but I don't recall him calling attention to perjury. I do remember Booker calling attention to emails, but none of them had to do with perjury.
    Their strategy is to target specific Republicans and have them flip. Trying to press for perjury probably isn't the greatest strategy as it would require a large percentage of Republicans to be onboard. However, iirc they only need 2 "No" votes, and they are targeting specific Republicans (Tim Scott, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins) by providing evidence that may sway their votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunksta View Post
    Their strategy is to target specific Republicans and have them flip. Trying to press for perjury probably isn't the greatest strategy as it would require a large percentage of Republicans to be onboard. However, iirc they only need 2 "No" votes, and they are targeting specific Republicans (Tim Scott, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins) by providing evidence that may sway their votes.
    Just the specter of perjury claims by Senate Democrats out in the media would seem to be effective in souring public perception of Kavanaugh, which in turn encourages Republican Senators on the fence to swing "no".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    The problem is that polygraphs are very extremely controversial. I have several friends who are police officers, and at least four of them have admitted to lying on a polygraph, and still passing. Now, it may not have been rigorous (it was the question about drugs), or the polygrapher simply did not care about the results of that question.

    Polygraphs can be beaten. I don't think for a second that Kavanaugh would ever agree to one.
    I am not saying it can't be beaten, or it can't be wrong. I am just saying that anybody that want to join the FBI and CIA have to pass a polygraph test. Therefore, we should do the same for somebody applying to a lifetime position as a member of the highest court in the US.

  19. #459
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    Just the specter of perjury claims by Senate Democrats out in the media would seem to be effective in souring public perception of Kavanaugh, which in turn encourages Senators on the fence to swing "no".
    Normally, yes. But I am wondering if they aren't bothering as much during an administration where lying is like breathing and the supporters don't care anyways and to the majority it is preaching to the choir about problems that is in the entire administration.

    It would be like when you have a superstar known for sleeping with everything that moves sleeping with another child star turned porn star or something. If it was a normal person it would be huge, but to someone or a group already known for that stuff, it just turns into another "Meh".

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    BTW, to those that questioned Prof. Ford reluctance to come forward. Here is a good reason.

    In the interview with The Post, Ford said she hesitated to speak publicly because she anticipated that her life would be upended and that Kavanaugh could be confirmed regardless. “Why suffer through the annihilation if it’s not going to matter?” she said.

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