Uldir progression thread

[Jawstrock]

only 6 hours difference in the 2 kills... such a close call in the end.

[MrExcelion]

We are leaning towards no, because "Method doesn't stream" was not reason we don't stream. We shall see though.

Here's a good reason to stream



All the other Method streamers benefited too.

[Coffer]

Waiting for other guilds to make a strat then copying it doesn't make you the best.

There's skill in having better execution than whoever came up with the plan, the same way there's skill in coming up with the plan in the first place. On their own, neither of those things dictate who's the best and who isn't.

Here's a good reason to stream

https://i.imgur.com/Ngfp1DA.png

All the other Method streamers benefited too.

Not very relevant if they don't care so much about money and exposure. A race is a race.

[Agnastyr]

By whatever means(without breaking rules that get you banned), if you win youre the best. The only unfair fight is the one you lose. Winning doesnt just consist of being the best at something, its being the best at using all the possible tools given to you.

[Nitros14]

Ion is right about one thing. Six hours is the smallest time difference between World #1 and World #2 in a tier that's even recorded on Wowprogress.

[MrExcelion]

Not very relevant if they don't care so much about money and exposure. A race is a race.

Counterpoint: It's winnable while streaming and they've done plenty of real money sales in the past (assuming they follow the ToS now though) so I wouldn't discount the money aspect

[Ashen88]

Proof Limit only got world first mythic mythrax because they copied Method's strat right off their stream.

I don't think Limit would have done as well as they did if Method didn't stream.

What was their strategy? Was it using the demonic gateways? I'll have to go watch their video again to see what they did differently from Method...

[Coffer]

Counterpoint: It's winnable while streaming and they've done plenty of real money sales in the past (assuming they follow the ToS now though)

Winnable for sure, but it will give you a colossal disadvantage. Even with no voice comms, we've already seen Limit use Method's streamed strategy to get Mythrax before them, and but for 600k they would've won the entire race against a Method that has clearly been better than them, even with a missing healer. All the money in the world isn't going to mean squat if you lose, if you're in any way a competitive person.

[Jetjaguar]

What was their strategy? Was it using the demonic gateways? I'll have to go watch their video again to see what they did differently from Method...

There's a spot literally right next to method's add spawning spot that spawned them in a more clumped pack

edit - Also to be clear, that was the only boss that watching their stream helped from a strategy perspective, the stream was actually mainly useful just to see where method's progress was at rather than seeing how they were progressing and also their stream was how we learned that Fetid's add hp got nerfed 10%.

[Thestuff1992]

https://twitter.com/limitguild/statu...92311811747841

if anyone wanted to hear nerdscreams

Thanks dude, always love that stuff. And congrats to your guild on World Second. That’s some good shit. With you guys saying you wanna push harder next tier and actually aim for WF pretty excited to see how that goes. GL!

[MrExcelion]

Winnable for sure, but it will give you a colossal disadvantage. Even with no voice comms, we've already seen Limit use Method's streamed strategy to get Mythrax before them, and but for 600k they would've won the entire race against a Method that has clearly been better than them, even with a missing healer. All the money in the world isn't going to mean squat if you lose, if you're in any way a competitive person.

Indeed, it does put you at a disadvantage. Ultimately its their choice, but many players in the cutting edge have streaming careers. It'd be one thing if Sco averaged 2k viewers, but what we saw this week was insane and enough to turn everybodys heads. In a sense, it should be a motivator. Do better/win the race, get more celebration subs and donations. It requires a perspective shift, but it's nice that there's something more tangible now for winning finally.

[Coffer]

Indeed, it does put you at a disadvantage. Ultimately its their choice, but many players in the cutting edge have streaming careers. It'd be one thing if Sco averaged 2k viewers, but what we saw this week was insane. In a sense, it should be a motivator. Do better/win the race, get more celebration subs and donations. It requires a perspective shift, but it's nice that there's something more tangible now for winning finally.

Good point, though I'm not convinced just having more eyes on you is anywhere close to being as good of a potential motivator as, you know, winning. It certainly lacks the memorability for the people competing (great as it may be for the viewers). That one depends on everyone's personal views though.

[MrExcelion]

I think the main barrier honestly is having people willing to run the stream and paying commentators to eliminate what would be dead air. The Red Bull thing made it work for Method

There's a growing number of talented WoW commentators out there at least that can make this entertaining

[Aggrophobic]

So even while streaming Method won, eh?
Theres just no guild that even comes close at this point.

Gratz, Method. Well done.

[WskyDK]

So even while streaming Method won, eh?
Theres just no guild that even comes close at this point.

Gratz, Method. Well done.

They beat a guild who didn’t reclear by six hours. Method is outstanding at what they do, but to claim no one is close is outright false.

[Deleted]

They also beat beat limit while waiting a heal. Limit is not close at all.

[Coffer]

They beat a guild who didn’t reclear by six hours. Method is outstanding at what they do, but to claim no one is close is outright false.

That's exactly why they're not close though. Given the extreme disadvantages that Method had to deal with, Limit should've won this. They failed.

[Deleted]

They also beat beat limit while waiting a heal. Limit is not close at all.

Not to mention the healer who replaced the guy who didn't show up was severally under performing.

[lukeyboy89]

What's with this 6 hours shit? NA automatically gets a 16h headstart. This mixed with being a shorter raid makes a 16h headstart quite significant.

Method shines on longer tiers (10+ bosses).

[Nitros14]

To be fair, it was six hours after Method... after Limit confusingly torpedo'd themselves. If they'd just recleared they would've had a world first on Tuesday.