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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Aristeus View Post
    You know what is a good example? Drugs that white people take.

    Opioid crisis affects whites way more than any other race and the way it was handled (while other drugs were still being treated harshly that were used by minorites like crack vs cocaine) "we need to fix this" "people are dying they need help" meanwhile if it was crack "fuck those minorities throw them in jail for life."
    Yes. Crack is the same as opioids. Smh. One is over prescribed by doctors while the other is smuggled, bought and sold on the street and leads to more violent and gang crime and homelessness that negatively impacts minorities at a higher rate. The government has spent more time, money and energy trying to save blacks from crack than they ever have giving a shit about whiteys pill popping. The direct opposite of the garbage you are claiming.

    Do you even read the bullshit you type ?


    OT - race discussions aren’t allowed. Mods seem to have abandoned this forum but I have reported and hope to see this closed soon

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Kapadons View Post
    Yes. Crack is the same as opioids. Smh. One is over prescribed by doctors while the other is smuggled, bought and sold on the street and leads to more violent and gang crime and homelessness that negatively impacts minorities at a higher rate. The government has spent more time, money and energy trying to save blacks from crack than they ever have giving a shit about whiteys pill popping. The direct opposite of the garbage you are claiming.

    Do you even read the bullshit you type ?


    OT - race discussions aren’t allowed. Mods seem to have abandoned this forum but I have reported and hope to see this closed soon
    You clearly ignored the crack vs cocain argument in there. Where do you think cocaine is coming from because crack comes from the same source yet the more expensive one used by whites wasn’t as criminalized as the one used by poor minorities. Why is that? Why is it that whites use most of the drugs yet don’t actually go to jail for it why are blacks and Latinos over represented in crimes related to drug use when on a per capita basis whites use more? Not only are whites a majority but per capita they have high rates of use so one would expect to see way more in jail for drugs over black and Latinos. Yet you don’t.

  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aristeus View Post
    You clearly ignored the crack vs cocain argument in there. Where do you think cocaine is coming from because crack comes from the same source yet the more expensive one used by whites wasn’t as criminalized as the one used by poor minorities. Why is that? Why is it that whites use most of the drugs yet don’t actually go to jail for it why are blacks and Latinos over represented in crimes related to drug use when on a per capita basis whites use more? Not only are whites a majority but per capita they have high rates of use so one would expect to see way more in jail for drugs over black and Latinos. Yet you don’t.
    To be completely fair, that's not an actual racial issue so much. In fairly none diverse populations, this occurs just as well, that it is the drug of the poor that tends to be punished. Now that's to some extends, still somewhat unfair, but there are reasons behind it. Those drug pushers, tend to be violent and cause general issues, whereas the other tends to just sell them and not really be bothersome outside of that. As well is that poor people on drugs, have a tendency to do crime to pay for it, whereas the richer ones that use drugs, tend to just work for the money.

    It isn't without logic that these things occur.

  4. #144
    Everything that will befalls on the Afrikaners wlll be karmic retribution for enslaving millions upon millions of people, and actually increasing the repression at time went by. Normal people would think the Interwar British Empire was racist enough toward Blacks-not the Afrikaners.

    Yes, it's unfair. It was also unfair to create the Banthustans.

  5. #145
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    It's so hilarious that the far right is upset about people around the world doing exactly what they want to do in their own parts of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinit View Post
    this kind of talk is already the norm in western universities.

    they wold make good bedfellows with quite a few mmoc members and a certain ex mod.
    Absolutely laughable. How blind can a person be to actually compare the ultra conservative ethno-nationlists of one country to the liberal progressives of another while being a ultra conservative ethno-nationlist themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohwell View Post
    Except they're practically teaching this at universities in the US. Gotta love when racism is passed off as academia by the left.
    Are they teaching ultra far right ethno-nationlism at US universities? Because the BLF is far right incarnate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Yes, this is the entire point of the concept of racism. It is an extremely effective way to undermine classical liberalism, primarily by disabling the ability of society to reject ideologically incompatible groups seeking to enter that society.
    You mean like the white people in SA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Explosive View Post
    Extremist say something, so all of a sudden democrats and moderates are bad people who want to wipe out white people and replace christmas with islam. Got it. And also BLM and Antifa are responsible for this too of course, only by voting in republicans will you be safe!

    Also, thanks Obama.
    What the fuck are you talking about. Nobody cares about democrats here.

    What’s your problem mate?

  7. #147
    Yes, we already know, the blacks applied marxist theory to the question of race. The whites, as a minority in South Africa, especially white farmers who were tilling the land they obtained legally generations ago are the new imagined bourgeoisie that needs to be taken down.

    And with all that, you still won't hear leftists decry the doings of blacks in SA, condemn racism or condemn Marxism. Not even when the definition of racism is one they built up.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    Yes, we already know, the blacks applied marxist theory to the question of race. The whites, as a minority in South Africa, especially white farmers who were tilling the land they obtained legally generations ago are the new imagined bourgeoisie that needs to be taken down.

    And with all that, you still won't hear leftists decry the doings of blacks in SA, condemn racism or condemn Marxism. Not even when the definition of racism is one they built up.
    I mean concentration of land is actually a really big problem for most countries, especially poor ones that have a good chunk of their labor focused there, which can quickly turns into a semi-feudal relation. Not sure if this is the case in South Africa, but its not that unreasonable.

  9. #149
    All of this is just to mask the actual problem in South Africa. Rife corruption and cronyism. The current grant scheme is not sustainable and government knows this. You cannot have 10% of the population carry the rest. They need to find a way to quickly get people sustainable to the point where they can feed themselves, cause once that 10% gets fed up and stops paying taxes, the country burns down in a week. So many millions upon millions are dependent on their social grant that within 30 days 60% of this population will die of hunger. It is all a balancing act. Tribalism will also play its part, all the tribes in Safrica are shit scared of the Zulu's. Heck, all of Africa is scared of them. King Zwelithini sits on millions of acres of land that is unused, they threatened to take land and the King said, come, we will make war... all of a sudden they agreed that they dont want that land, just the rest. Like a circus playing out at the moment.

    On a side note, they want to give away unused agricultural land, but when they asked the population what they wanted, most said they want a house in the city. They will just sell the land they get. When asked if they want money or land, the vast majority just said give us money. It is all about short term solutions. That is why it wont work...

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    Yes, we already know, the blacks applied marxist theory to the question of race. The whites, as a minority in South Africa, especially white farmers who were tilling the land they obtained legally generations ago are the new imagined bourgeoisie that needs to be taken down.

    And with all that, you still won't hear leftists decry the doings of blacks in SA, condemn racism or condemn Marxism. Not even when the definition of racism is one they built up.
    Deep Southerners loved the SA in the sixties and praised it as model to follow. Afrikaners got the friends they so richly deserved.

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Trust Trader Mittens View Post
    I mean concentration of land is actually a really big problem for most countries, especially poor ones that have a good chunk of their labor focused there, which can quickly turns into a semi-feudal relation. Not sure if this is the case in South Africa, but its not that unreasonable.
    I recommend you check the documentary available at Youtube called "Farmlands". Should be an eye opener. When you hear the politicians unedited statements and explanations why they want to take the land from white farmers. And when you see those farmers, whose couple acres of land they want to take away.

    It's not like they tried the same thing in Zimbabwe ...


  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Carnitaur View Post
    All of this is just to mask the actual problem in South Africa. Rife corruption and cronyism. The current grant scheme is not sustainable and government knows this. You cannot have 10% of the population carry the rest. They need to find a way to quickly get people sustainable to the point where they can feed themselves, cause once that 10% gets fed up and stops paying taxes, the country burns down in a week. So many millions upon millions are dependent on their social grant that within 30 days 60% of this population will die of hunger. It is all a balancing act. Tribalism will also play its part, all the tribes in Safrica are shit scared of the Zulu's. Heck, all of Africa is scared of them. King Zwelithini sits on millions of acres of land that is unused, they threatened to take land and the King said, come, we will make war... all of a sudden they agreed that they dont want that land, just the rest. Like a circus playing out at the moment.

    On a side note, they want to give away unused agricultural land, but when they asked the population what they wanted, most said they want a house in the city. They will just sell the land they get. When asked if they want money or land, the vast majority just said give us money. It is all about short term solutions. That is why it wont work...
    No way, you are implying that autocrats are blaming the woes of their countries on minorities to rile up poorly educated people against them and secure their own power ? Those dastardly blacks !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astalnar View Post
    Yes, we already know, the blacks applied marxist theory to the question of race. The whites, as a minority in South Africa, especially white farmers who were tilling the land they obtained legally generations ago are the new imagined bourgeoisie that needs to be taken down.

    And with all that, you still won't hear leftists decry the doings of blacks in SA, condemn racism or condemn Marxism. Not even when the definition of racism is one they built up.
    Some people where quite for might is right from 1933 to 1944. They robbed and pillaged their way through Europe, enslaving and murdering as they wanted.

    Did they begged, cried and moaned when it came back to them in a whirlwind of vengeance in 1945 ? You betcha. For instance, what do you call ''LEGALLY OBTANIED FARMLAND'' ? Farmland legally acquired after a law that confiscated all Black agriculture land was passed by a white only legislature ?

  13. #153
    Black people in Africa = our land, close the borders!
    Black people outside Africa = everybody's land, open borders!

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Northy View Post
    Black people in Africa = our land, close the borders!
    Black people outside Africa = everybody's land, open borders!
    This is a really stupid comment.

  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Daedius View Post
    But Indians aren't African Blacks, and this group's xenophobic towards foreigners...? lol :V
    The whites in south africa aren't necessarily foreigners. Some of them have ties to the land that go further back than a lot of black people in the area.

  16. #156
    Philosophically, I am fine with the idea of native populations taking back land given to foreign settlers.

    Practically, though, it's usually problematic. Look at Zimbabwe. And I absolutely wouldn't condone violence as well. If a country wants to seize land that was taken by a conquering/occupying and redistribute it to the natives, that's their right. However, landowners should be compensated and there shouldn't be violence in doing so. And for God's sake, don't take fertile farmlands from people who know how to work them and give the properties to people who don't, that's just asking for food shortages.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Northy View Post
    Black people in Africa = our land, close the borders!
    Black people outside Africa = everybody's land, open borders!
    If your kind hate so much non white people, why you keep invading their lands ? Because since the siege of Wien, non white people have rather been invaded than the reverse. Not ''breitbart invaded'', really invaded.

  18. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    For instance, what do you call ''LEGALLY OBTANIED FARMLAND'' ? Farmland legally acquired after a law that confiscated all Black agriculture land was passed by a white only legislature ?
    The land obtained, was uninhabited land. It was traded for mainly, but in some instances, claimed through conquest (like most of the world). The land obtained was not next to rivers, but farmed and enriched through generations to become the successful farms they are now. The Khoi and San communities were at the southern tip of africa before 1652 when the first settlers landed. The rest of the tribes that eventually settles in the 1700's and 1800's were chased down from central africa and then obtained their land through conquest too. The only people who have any right or say to the land are the Khoi and San communities, but by way of that argument, anyone who can trace their lineage the furthest, has a right to claim all land. Its a BS argument. I do however agree that land should be given to people who will work the land and produce goods for export and the local markets. Too much land is just sitting around not being used. I also agree that not everyone should get fair market compensation, as the old apartheid government gave land to many people that was not obtained legally, but the original owner was chased off the land. In those cases, the land should be divided. I want all farm workers who have been on farms for several generations to have a say and claim to part of that land.

    Land has been given away or has been paid for by government, but those farms have all but failed. The land bought by black people who wanted to farm, that had experience and worked the land, have been resounding success stories. Most of the land in South Africa is owned by government and they want to own it all. It will never be "given", just loaned. The ANC, EFF and likewise have always been openly communist parties, so no surprises. A very well know south african politician, also said that he didnt join the revolution to be poor.

  19. #159
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    What I never understood is why these people don't leave the horrible Western countries of the evil white people and go live in the paradise that is Africa or Asia?

  20. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by Deruyter View Post
    What I never understood is why these people don't leave the horrible Western countries of the evil white people and go live in the paradise that is Africa or Asia?
    Amount of South African people who have applied for second passports since the beginning of the year, to countries like Malta, Cypres etc. have increased by 229%. Funny thing is, that only 55% of the applicants are white. Food for thought.

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