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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    soo how do you propose disarming the biker gangs, the inner city gangs, the mountain men ,rednecks, and hillbillies? how do you propose getting rid of all the guns in the US when you know there are millions of folks here who would rather shoot it out with the authorities than hand over their guns? i'm curious because if you don't have a plan than why the fuck are you talking about removing guns.
    Australia made it work. Europe makes it work.

    Are you saying that they're more competent and effective than the US is? If not, why are they able to make it work but the US wouldn't be able to? If so, what parts of their governance make them more effective?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebel View Post
    Yeah they just get car bombings, trucks plowing down side walks, and acid attacks.

    Idk about you, but i think id rather be shot dead then live the rest of my life looking like my face melted off.
    Oh you silly billy.

    The US still has those things, in addition to mass shootings.

    It's not an "either or" here thing with the US, it's an "and also" thing.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Australia made it work. Europe makes it work. Are you saying that they're more competent and effective than the US is? If not, why are they able to make it work but the US wouldn't be able to? If so, what parts of their governance make them more effective?
    That's the most ridiculous argument ever which constantly pops up.
    Unless you live here those countries and their social mores, laws and population will never fit in here.

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    And for the googol time it’s not guns that are so fucked up in the head they decide to go shoot up a school, or workplace, or any place.
    Guns were invented for the sole purpose of killing.

    Remove guns, people don't get shot, it is literally THAT simple.

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    There doesn't need to be a sub forum. There are too many intricacies and different events happening for it to be forced into one thread where everything will be drowned out or meshed together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoochlol View Post
    Guns were invented for the sole purpose of killing.

    Remove guns, people don't get shot, it is literally THAT simple.
    Correct, people wouldn’t get shot. We’d just have the same amount of people fucked up in the head, coming up with other ways to kill people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Cheese View Post
    There doesn't need to be a sub forum. There are too many intricacies and different events happening for it to be forced into one thread where everything will be drowned out or meshed together.

    A subforum isn’t a thread. This thread, is in the sub-forum of General Off-Topic for example. In other words each event would be a single thread, the sub-forum woulf house all the threads about mass-shooting discussions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    That's the most ridiculous argument ever which constantly pops up.
    Unless you live here those countries and their social mores, laws and population will never fit in here.
    Yeah, Australia is so different from united States, what with their shared language, great deal of shared cultural heritage, and ongoing shared alliances and constant interchange of people and goods.
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    Kaleredar is right...
    Words to live by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Yeah, Australia is so different from united States, what with their shared language, great deal of shared cultural heritage, and ongoing shared alliances and constant interchange of people and goods.
    Yeah, and I suppose there's over 330 million people, and system of government, and nothing in the way of shared cultural. (seriously, wtf?)
    And yes, we are taught violence at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alturic View Post
    Correct, people wouldn’t get shot. We’d just have the same amount of people fucked up in the head, coming up with other ways to kill people.
    He says as though that's still not an drastic improvement.

    "We'll have more Boston bombers!"

    Sweet. 3 deaths, IIRC. Bunch more injuries, but compared to, say, Vegas, I'd call that a huge win still.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    This is America. We always have warm dead bodies.
    if we had confidence that the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaoBurning View Post
    He says as though that's still not an drastic improvement. "We'll have more Boston bombers!" Sweet. 3 deaths, IIRC. Bunch more injuries, but compared to, say, Vegas, I'd call that a huge win still.
    How about "We'll have more Oklahoma bombers!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebel View Post
    Thats just false. If it was true, there'd be a lot of dead cops by now given the stupid ass ANTIFA and BLM groups who would take it into their own hands.
    Neither Antifa or BLM are violent groups full of psychos. They don't attack cops because they don't want to attack cops. Even shit head groups like your various flavours of neo-nazi don't go out of their way to shoot people they don't like.

    By your logic the only thing stopping neo-nazis from shooting minorities is an armed response and minorities in the US are much less well-armed than the police. And guess what? The average racist asshat is mostly just content to hate people on internet soap boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    thoughts and prayers
    Nothing we can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    ...and we have cars/vans mowing people down in London and Toronto...maybe we need a sub-section for that sort of thing.
    dude, we need one for the rapes in sweden.
    actually scratch that, we'd need a live feed to cover them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsdhjte View Post
    Can we have a Sub Section for mass shooting in the US? Now Maryland

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45594239

    Another mass shooting in progress in Maryland.

    Whats more can be said?
    Only if we get one for Knives and corrosive liquid control.

    The two could be merged into media hysteria forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Checkt View Post
    Why is it all guys? Even money says he's white... because the article didn't call him a terrorist...just like 95% of all mass shooters in the US.
    Why do you have to immediately make this about race? Just like the guy above you who has to immediately politicize this tragedy. These forums make me sick, honestly they should just remove the entire General Off-Topic section.

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    not maryland i mean they just imposed harsher gun control laws
    Well then get your shit together.
    Get it all together. And put it in a backpack. All your shit. So it’s together. And if you gotta take it somewhere, take it somewhere, you know, take it to the shit store and sell it, or put it in a shit museum, I don’t care what you do, you just gotta get it together.
    Get your shit together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rootkitt View Post
    Why do you have to immediately make this about race? Just like the guy above you who has to immediately politicize this tragedy. These forums make me sick, honestly they should just remove the entire General Off-Topic section.
    Because mass shootings have an explicit racial element to them? Mass gun crime is almost exclusively white.

    Normal singular homicides are majority black.

    There are reasons why both are the way they are, and ignoring the demographic that commits each is a sure fire way to make sure nothing ever happens to solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxinius View Post
    not maryland i mean they just imposed harsher gun control laws
    Maryland is a small state, hopefully those gun laws extend state lines so that someone couldn't just go to a red state with relaxed gun laws....say like Virginia....Ohio....West Virginia.....or Pennsylvania...

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    The amount of ignorance on this thread is amazing. Shouldn't there be some sort of rule requiring you to know a little about something before you go sounding off? I mean, like making a statement about lax state guns laws, yet not knowing that the majority of gun laws are federal, it just shows you don't know anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsdhjte View Post
    Can we have a Sub Section for mass shooting in the US? Now Maryland

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45594239

    Another mass shooting in progress in Maryland.

    Whats more can be said?
    This is actually an interesting one, because they are rarely done by women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivanstone View Post
    Neither Antifa or BLM are violent groups full of psychos. They don't attack cops because they don't want to attack cops. Even shit head groups like your various flavours of neo-nazi don't go out of their way to shoot people they don't like.

    By your logic the only thing stopping neo-nazis from shooting minorities is an armed response and minorities in the US are much less well-armed than the police. And guess what? The average racist asshat is mostly just content to hate people on internet soap boxes.
    Lmao. ANTIFA isnt a violent group? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.69a2576ea98e

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUu46J_OHQ4

    What world are you in?

    Meanwhile we've got BLM chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon" - Yeah that doesnt sound violent at all.

    Good grief.

    The fact that you defend their actions by bringing up neo-nazi's is just as insane. All 3 groups are fuckin nuts.

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    The easiest, most immediate remedy to this is to install metal detectors everywhere. Complaining about guns wont fix the problems for years. Make real tangible changes now and save lives.

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