vanilla allowed for more choice or, at least, more apparent choice.
vanilla allowed for more choice or, at least, more apparent choice.
there will always be a cookie cutter build for instanced PvE.
When in the hell will people understand this.
Is this enough reason to scrap customization in all games from now on? Yeah, lets kill customization for good.
No more customization for anyone. RIP customization.
Let customization live in PvP and World Content.
vs checking wowhead/warcraft logs for the best talent setup vs different bosses in legion/bfa, picking those talents and doing exactly the same thing?
it really didn't
the current talent system is just as cookie cutter options focused as the previous system, but for some reason people think that easier to change talents + different talents being far better vs different bosses = not at all cookie cutter options, lol
Last edited by Dizzeeyooo; 2018-09-21 at 08:40 PM.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Also, it's should HAVE. NOT "should of". "Should of" doesn't even make sense. If you think you should own a cat, do you say "I should of a cat" or "I should have a cat"? Do you HAVE cats, or do you OF cats?
People still do that today except they use ilvl as a standard rather than checking talent builds. There will always be something that people measure skill by, as necessary or arbitrary as it will be. The old talent system just happened to have a higher chance of picking something utterly bad, but that's a whole part of the game experience. It's a big thing missing in today's game.
Yes, it was a bad thing, but bad things make you appreciate the good that much more. I've never looked at the current talent system and felt like it was my build. Even if people chose cookie cutter builds in the old system, building and picking which talents to take while leveling is what mattered most. The journey, not the destination.
Screw the old talent systems. Bring back spell rankings and having to go out and find your new spells/ranks.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Also, it's should HAVE. NOT "should of". "Should of" doesn't even make sense. If you think you should own a cat, do you say "I should of a cat" or "I should have a cat"? Do you HAVE cats, or do you OF cats?
Honestly, current gives you more choice and variation in having to pick one of 3. Vanilla had more "talents" but most of them had little impact on how you played
Both systems are bad for different reasons. Blizz should go to a hybrid system.
1. You choose your specialization at level 1
2. At level 10 you get access to the talent tree for your spec, and a talent point. All of these talents are passive effects tied to your spells. You get 1 point per level until cap.
3. At level 15 you get access to the feat grid (the current system), these are all powerful activated abilities. You get one every 15 levels and each row has a theme. (Defensive/ Movement, Cooldown, Rotation addition etc)
4. At level 60 you get access to secondary specialization. You choose a second spec and that opens up that specs talent tree. You can now put your talent points into a second tree and you recieve some key spells/abilities from that second specialization.
Why this system is good: It keeps the sense of progression while leveling up that the old talent tree had. It will be cookie cutter but you can't avoid that entirely. Instead, by keeping the current talent grid system with only activated abilities you give players a choice to customize their builds through there, while also ensuring that it's not boring. Finally, you unlock a secondary spec and gain some of its tools. RPG wise this shows that your character has become well versed in their starting spec and is branching out into one of the others, giving you more spells and passives to play around with. The key difference here is that you also recieve spec exclusive spells.
Oh, i give up man.
When i confront people with examples proving them wrong they instantly stop replying to me like @Wada did just now.
There is no winning on the forums.