maiev uses spirit of vengeance, it's a "shadow" of maiev. maiev says all of her powers are granted by elune.
tyrande uses dark moonlight in the end time dungeon.
elune has been said to have the dark, war-like side known as the night warrior since her inception as a character. if she's a true deity, which it seems like she may be, using both of the fundamental magics of the universe would suit her imo.
So I wasn't wrong then? Nozdormu didn't bless Teldrassil because he didn't like the NE or their attitude. Thanks.
Besides you flapped at me because I'm hoping for Zandalari Paladins. "Humans, Blood Elves or something with hooves are there for you." Open mindedness isn't a difficult concept.
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Ho, right. So we are going to act like if their absence in the game until now wasn't a clear choice from blizz because NE has a society has lost their link with the world tree (and thus their immortality), and that their sudden addition 15years later, after the most significant event in NE history since WC3 has no signification what so ever?
Really?
You're literally using the in-game magic type of "shadow". Fel and necromancy are both classified as "shadow" in the game.
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It doesn't mean it's void. Not all "shadow" magic is void.
And that is not the real Tyrande, just a whisper-y, lingering image of her.tyrande uses dark moonlight in the end time dungeon.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
"Trees of life" existed for a long time as the druids could turn into them since... Burning Crusade, I think? And again, the Trees of Life channel the energies of Nordassil. The trees of life by themselves do not grant immortality to the night elves. And since Nordrassil is dead, and has been dead since the end of Warcraft 3, that means the night elves are still no longer immortal.
A comparison would be power plants and energy transformers. Nordrassil is the power plant, trees of life are the transformers. Yeah, you now have the transformers, but if the power plant's not operational, those transformers won't give any energy.
Unless you can show some actual evidence that they've regained their immortality?
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
Ok, I'll try it one more time slower so you can catch it : the Trees of life sudden return IS the proof. Why else would blizzard bring them back, especially if that would create a huge lore contradiction?
Are you serious? The whole gimmick of the "light" in warcraft is that IT'S NOT A DEITY but a concept, a force like shadow or death.
You are REALLY trying to talk lore when you don't even know something as basic as that?
Lol what?
So where exactly it is said that Nordrasil has lost all power at the end of WC3?
It just said that it needed to heal and regrow (thing he has obviously done by the time cata roll out, because as you may have noticed, the tree was perfectly fine then).
And your lil spiel about how Teldrasil being blessed by the aspects whire gave back their immortality to the NE is just completely wrong, once again showing that you have no idea on what you are talking about.
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Teldrassil
Alexstrasza, impressed that the tree could prosper alone without her influence or her kin's, blessed it belatedly. The tree flourishes even more under the gift from the Life-Binder, even if still being unable to return the night elves' immortality.
/facepalm
If anything that just proved that NE could regain immortality with a suitable world tree, and guess what? Nordrasil is still here, alive and kicking, there's just a missing link and that link is the Trees of life who are making their come back.
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Nop, it's the other way around. The void is shadow, but not all shadow are void.
No.
Pure Light and Shadow dwell in a realm outside the borders of reality, but shades of their presence are found in the physical universe. Light manifests as holy magic, while Shadow (also referred to as "the Void") appears as shadow magic. (Chronicle Volume 1, page 10)
Just a reminder, by Tree of life, people mean the giant ancients that disappeared, not the druid form.
The trees of life were massive.
"Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
"You sit in OG/SW waiting on a Mythic+ queue" by Altmer <- Oh, the pearls in this forum...
"They sort of did this Dragonriding, which ushered in the Dracthyr race." by Teriz <- the BS some people reach for their narratives...
In every short story, in lots of quests in Darkshore after Cata, all Nightelves refer to the fact that their immortality hasn't returned. They are still long lived, which they were even before Nordrassil, but the blessing of the Bronze Aspect was what made them actually immortal.
When Malfurion released the powers from Nordrassil, he gave up the Nightelves' immortality with it.
Some, including Fandral Staghelm, were furious about that and wanted to have a new tree that would grant them their immortality back. But it didn't. So they asked for the Aspects to bless it again, who refused.
After Teldrassil was cleansed and Staghelm exposed and gotten rid of, Nozdormu wasn't around to give a blessing, so Teldrassil only got Alexstrasza's blessing (resistance to illness, poisons and such) and Ysera's blessing (the Dream-connection), but not the immortality (in Stormrage). When Nozdormu came back, he gave up his Aspect powers together with the other Aspects and with this also his ability to grant the immortality (in Cataclysm)
As such: Tree cleansed and blessed with good health and good sleep, but no immortality. Nightelves very long lived, but not immortal.
Does it even matter whether they are immortal or just very long lived? Its not like they were unkillable when they were immortal.
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