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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    You have too small of a sample size to go off of.
    3 weeks into an expansion is too small of a sample size? Did you not see my poll that asked if anyone still had 340 Azerite Gear, and over 75% voted yes. The system is ridiculous.

  2. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    People complaining about loot nowadays wouldn't have lasted two weeks in vanilla.
    I wouldn't have raided in Vanilla because that would have been a colossal waste of time.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Alodi View Post
    Azerite armor is the worst thing that's ever happened to this game. Does this system have any upsides at all?
    The upside is for those who win the lottery by getting their perfect stats and then topping dps and feeling amazing. So basically system sucks ass.

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Factcheck View Post
    did a mythic 6 last week and the week before, got a 355 chest with terrible traits in the box twice in a row. I hate it. I hate it a lot.
    that's actually really lucky, I've had bracers both weeks.

  5. #105
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    The game is basicly a hamsterwheel now. Repeatable shit that keeps you subbed. However there was too much consistency, people could get geared farming up and valor, doing the dailies and weekly's and that was it.

    Now they've implemented a variable interval reward system which is basicly like the name implies a way to have you play more of the same game with the small chance of getting better gear. It's what casinos use as well, and its addictive.

    It's a way to artificially prolong a games life (takes longer to gear). Skinner found that variable ratio schedules have two benefits:

    a) they result in the most instances of the behavior than any of the other schedules (i.e., people will keep handing in the expense report on time), and

    b) they result in behaviors that Skinner said were “hard to extinguish”, which is “psychology speak” for the idea that the behavior persists over time, even when rewards aren’t being given any more.

    Tldr: blizzard uses psychological tricks to make u more addicted to the game so they can make money off you for longer with their retention model.
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  6. #106
    3 Weeks of running mythic+/raids and a 340 2hand weapon from 4 world quest is the best weapon that "droped" for me with terrible stats.
    Running around with 340 trinkets and just terrible on use trinkets droping for me...
    The weekly chest gave me 3 times wrists...
    4 Mythics weekly quest reward ofc wrists with terrible stats...
    Battlefront reward... you guessed it right wrists with terrible stats...
    Ofc our Prot pala gets every ID from the first boss the 2 hand mace but he cant trade it because of the high item level...
    They really should remove the item level cap for trading items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    3 weeks into an expansion is too small of a sample size? Did you not see my poll that asked if anyone still had 340 Azerite Gear, and over 75% voted yes. The system is ridiculous.
    Expecting to be decked out in raid level gear 3 weeks into an expansion is exactly what's wrong with people like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagie View Post
    3 Weeks of running mythic+/raids and a 340 2hand weapon from 4 world quest is the best weapon that "droped" for me with terrible stats.
    Running around with 340 trinkets and just terrible on use trinkets droping for me...
    The weekly chest gave me 3 times wrists...
    4 Mythics weekly quest reward ofc wrists with terrible stats...
    Battlefront reward... you guessed it right wrists with terrible stats...
    Ofc our Prot pala gets every ID from the first boss the 2 hand mace but he cant trade it because of the high item level...
    They really should remove the item level cap for trading items.
    Welcome to RNG, WoW has always been like this.

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkommo View Post
    Expecting to be decked out in raid level gear 3 weeks into an expansion is exactly what's wrong with people like you.

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    Welcome to RNG, WoW has always been like this.
    Expecting to be rewarded for putting in time is what's wrong? I've had 3 chances to to get an Azerite piece from my m+ box. 6 chances from token rolls. 30 chances from raid (normal and heroic). 2 chances from the weekly emissary. Guess how many pieces I've gotten? 1. Yeah I should expect to be geared out by week 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Yeah I should expect to be geared out by week 3.
    No, you shouldn't expect it.

    Bosses drop more than just Azerite gear, it also took time to get tier sets. Sometimes you get lucky, other times you don't. The weekly chests etc, have massive loot pools, you have a far greater chance of getting an item you don't want.

    I do think Azerite gear should drop from M+.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkommo View Post
    No, you shouldn't expect it.

    Bosses drop more than just Azerite gear, it also took time to get tier sets. Sometimes you get lucky, other times you don't. The weekly chests etc, have massive loot pools, you have a far greater chance of getting an item you don't want.

    I do think Azerite gear should drop from M+.
    Massive loot pools yes, but you have a supposedly higher chance of getting a weapon or Azerite gear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Massive loot pools yes, but you have a supposedly higher chance of getting a weapon or Azerite gear.
    Never heard this before, any source?

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekkommo View Post
    Never heard this before, any source?
    https://old.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...bh3/?context=3

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    Thanks, so overtime your chance to get Azerite increases from the chest, then reset when you get a piece.

  14. #114
    Yes there are quite alot of unhappy campers with 0 azerite drops over 340. I only have the champions exalted head and have been doing anything except PVP (as a lock, lol)

    Almost anyone complains with m+7-10 runs and norm/heroic/myth runs that has not 3 pieces over 340. Yes this is probably pretty normal, that one or two pieces elude u. But all 3 on all the weekly locked out drop chances for azerite... after 4 weeks. That is not a back luck protection working as intended for the player. And this is a problem BECAUSE it is actually common to have multiple azerite pieces as well (even my 3rd twink has 2 370 and one 355 piece incl. 1 uldir trait after 2 warfronts and 1 normal uldir raid.

    So the biggest problem is the amount of spread between characters.... Many people with multiple azerite pieces but also many with none... and all the things in between. Of course you do not unterstand this if you happen to be one the lucky ones... But mains with all weeklys covered can go empty for 4 weeks... and that is bad
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  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by sunxsera View Post
    Frustrating for me, too - got 2x 370 azerite pieces from the world boss -but they have really bad traits. So i `m using 3x 340 pieces.
    Also got a 380 ring from the weekly +10 chest, that is a 8-11% downgrade from my 355 rings.
    Cleared uldir 3x on normal on my alt warlock - not a single azerite item.
    If you have the same number of traits open, you are gimping yourself by choosing the better traits and using lower ilvl. But lets blame Blizzard for your stupidity. If you don't have the traits open, lets blame Blizzard for your laziness.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizah View Post
    why so mad bro

  16. #116
    It wouldn't have been half as bad if Blizzard had given at least some consideration to the availability of specific azerite items. There's for example only one cloth azerite chest in the whole of Uldir, yet the Arathi world boss only drops shoulders and head, which can already drop from two different bosses in Uldir. Then there is of course the beautiful azerite bad luck protection in your m+ chest, which just means you get to wait a couple of weeks only to get canned by a 1/3. So in the end it all boils down to you pulling the lever on that Mythrax slotmachine every week, which is obviously not a frustrating experience at all.

  17. #117
    It's RNG....like every single expansion and time before it. What the hell does the Azerite system have to do with it? People talking crazy saying "I can't target gear" since when could you? Sometimes we had different avenues to get gear from like badges or crafting but that was rarely. Usually you had to farm dungeons for a good piece. Sometimes that piece wouldn't ever drop, nothing new

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitros14 View Post
    The loot system this expansion is completely fucked. The worst it's ever been.

    The only way it could be worse is if they re-added Legiondaries.
    Jesus Christ don't say that! Knowing them, they'll actually do it.

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzyorcborne View Post
    Jesus Christ don't say that! Knowing them, they'll actually do it.
    Considering how often we get legiondaries in Blingtron 6000 boxes, I wouldn't be surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by munkeyinorbit View Post
    If you have the same number of traits open, you are gimping yourself by choosing the better traits and using lower ilvl. But lets blame Blizzard for your stupidity. If you don't have the traits open, lets blame Blizzard for your laziness.
    Last traits unlock at lvl29 for me - not even players in Method have a lvl29 EoA. Those lazy world first players !
    I also trust simcraft & bloodmallet more than some random forum wannabe.

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