Poll: Garrosh vs Varok

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    Horde Garrosh vs. Varok

    Garrosh without Hearth of Y'sharaj and with axe Gorehowl. Varok Saurfang without demon blood and with axe Arcanite Reaper.



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    Got to give it to the veteran. Experience has to count in the end even if Garrosh is like freakishly strong even for an orc.

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    Varok is certainly a strong warrior, but Garrosh from Warsong, where the best warriors of the Horde were, and Garrosh's rivals were more serious than Varok's rivals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    Varok is certainly a strong warrior, but Garrosh from Warsong, where the best warriors of the Horde were, and Garrosh's rivals were more serious than Varok's rivals.
    Garrosh didn't grow up with the Warsong. Cairne would've won in the duel against Garrosh as pointed out in the book. He only won because of the poison.

    Varok all the way. Way more experience etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The World View Post
    Garrosh didn't grow up with the Warsong. Cairne would've won in the duel against Garrosh as pointed out in the book. He only won because of the poison.

    Varok all the way. Way more experience etc.
    Garrosh in the Rise of the Horde was supposed to fight the draenei, but was infected and sent to Garadar. This means that he grew up as a warrior already in the Warsong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    Garrosh in the Rise of the Horde was supposed to fight the draenei, but was infected and sent to Garadar. This means that he grew up as a warrior already in the Warsong.
    I've read the book and there is no mention of that at all, only that he was sick in Garadar, but not that he was old enough to fight the Draenei.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The World View Post
    I've read the book and there is no mention of that at all, only that he was sick in Garadar, but not that he was old enough to fight the Draenei.
    This is mentioned in WoW, it seems, I just indicated that he was ready as a warrior even in the events of the book of Christie Golden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    This is mentioned in WoW, it seems, I just indicated that he was ready as a warrior even in the events of the book of Christie Golden.
    Still, I don't think he's stronger than Varok. Sha-Empowered? No doubt that'd he'd whop Varoks' butt, but not without it.
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    Garrosh.

    Hellscreams are like the upper class under the warsong clan, Saurfang family is below the Blackhands so that is why i rank the hellscreams above them without any demonblood boosts ect otherwise the Saurfangs would be the leading family of the Blackrock clan yet they where just soldiers in their army.
    Last edited by mmoc2b606a4969; 2018-10-06 at 03:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The World View Post
    Still, I don't think he's stronger than Varok. Sha-Empowered? No doubt that'd he'd whop Varoks' butt, but not without it.
    Garrosh had more than one 1x1 fight. Varian, Cairne, Taran Zhu, Thrall. Experience in fights 1x1 is not bad for Garrosh. Yes, Varok is more experienced than Garrosh, but Varok's endurance is not the same as Cairne's, so I think Garrosh will be the winner due to his endurance and experience in 1x1 fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tromage View Post
    Garrosh.

    Hellscreams are like the upper class under the warsong clan, Saurfang family is below the Blackhands so that is why i rank the hellscreams above them without any demonblood boosts ect otherwise the Saurfangs would be the leading family of the Blackrock clan yet they where just soldiers in their army.
    Blackrock family:
    1.Blackhands
    2.Doomhammers
    3.Saurfangs

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    i don't think anyone - alliance or horde - can stand against someone who is veteran of 1st, 2nd and 3rd war
    Saurfang war experience is equal to none, i don't know anyone i can name who has more actual war experience more than him, and that include nelfs who are alive since 10k years
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    Garrosh. Garrosh after Cairne became a monster in his own league. He is like Broly. The more he fights the greater power he gets. After all he was able to match, no, almost kill Varian during Tides of War. Which means he fights on the same level as demigod powered human potential.

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    All garrosh needs to do is tell varok that their fight isnt honorable, he'll have an existential crisis, and then garrosh can kill him

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    i don't think anyone - alliance or horde - can stand against someone who is veteran of 1st, 2nd and 3rd war
    Saurfang war experience is equal to none, i don't know anyone i can name who has more actual war experience more than him, and that include nelfs who are alive since 10k years
    Experience is not everything in a fight otherwise we would have 60 year old kickboxers and boxers in the ring IRL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    i don't think anyone - alliance or horde - can stand against someone who is veteran of 1st, 2nd and 3rd war
    Saurfang war experience is equal to none, i don't know anyone i can name who has more actual war experience more than him, and that include nelfs who are alive since 10k years
    Kilrogg Dead Eye was the most experienced of the warchiefs of the Horde (Rise of Horde). But he was not the strongest warrior among them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sam86 View Post
    i don't think anyone - alliance or horde - can stand against someone who is veteran of 1st, 2nd and 3rd war
    Saurfang war experience is equal to none, i don't know anyone i can name who has more actual war experience more than him, and that include nelfs who are alive since 10k years
    Just to add, the battle at Karabor, Shattrath, Ahn'Qiraj, Northrend.

    Probably battles against the ogres as well.
    Last edited by Dalheim; 2018-10-06 at 03:31 PM.
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    The best Warchief the Horde ever had since Blackhand vs and old Orc women that only complains and moans?

    Garrosh would win easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The World View Post
    Just to add, the battle at Karabor, Shattrath, Ahn'Qiraj, Northrend.

    Probably battles against the ogres as well.
    Whom Varok personally defeated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by funcik View Post
    Whom Varok personally defeated?
    Never been mentioned as he's never been used that much until now, unlike Garrosh.
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