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[Korgrom]

Is it just me or does that new Lor’themar look like he’s dead, laid down at some sort of funeral with his eyes closed and hair up like that?

[digichi]

holy hell, lorthemar.. are we playing the same game? lol

[ninthbelief]

>No Embrace of the Loa: Rezan
C'mon encrypted files, pull through

[lichbane]

Don't even start that. Once they find out they aren't getting Zandalari Paladins, they will Cry cry cry.

Why does it even matter?

[Velshin]

Why does it even matter?

It matters because Alliance faction has more races that can be paladin class more than the Horde races.

[Leberman]

It matters because Alliance faction has more races that can be paladin class more than the Horde races.

While they do, we (horde), have more shaman races than alliance. So, that statement is kinda invalid. /shrug

[Ophenia]

Is it just me or does that new Lor’themar look like he’s dead, laid down at some sort of funeral with his eyes closed and hair up like that?

You may be right

That would be good though, I need to steal those damn fine gloves

[OriginZero]

Is it just me or does that new Lor’themar look like he’s dead, laid down at some sort of funeral with his eyes closed and hair up like that?

That's basically a t-pose for wow models. T-poses is a reference model. No animation or set position, etc.

So, you know, WIP.

[Deleted]

They go there to ask the Lich King who ordered Vol'jin to make Sylvanas Warchief, and why Vol'jin spirit can't remember. As seen on previous texts.

You got a link to that? Or just a general direction of where to look.

[therealbowser]

Looks like we have names for the Kul Tiran racials

Brush it off
Child of the Sea
Haymaker
Jack of all trades
Rime of the Ancient Mariner

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While they do, we (horde), have more shaman races than alliance. So, that statement is kinda invalid. /shrug

There are new playable races that cover every single race on Alliance side.

Paladin are the only missing class on new races Horde side. This wouldn't matter if Zandalari didn't already have tons of paladin lore and their reasoning was something as simple as "Rezan is dead, so we can't be paladins anymore". The whole idea of it is insulting for good reason, not to mention that Horde currently have two fewer options than Alliance.

Blizzard should just add paladins for Zandalari. This is getting to be ridiculous.

[ashblond]

My servant Lothemar betrayed me.

[Severn]

Dayum that new look for Lor'Themar is great! Looks older and a bit jagged.

[Asylinna]

People crying that zandalar don't get paladin are in so much denial. Without Rezan they have no more reason to be paladin which is perfectly fine the horde are supposed to have fewer paladin choices then alliance seeing as it used to be an alliance only class much like alliance have fewer shamans.

[Malrune]

People crying that zandalar don't get paladin are in so much denial. Without Rezan they have no more reason to be paladin which is perfectly fine the horde are supposed to have fewer paladin choices then alliance seeing as it used to be an alliance only class much like alliance have fewer shamans.

Draenei, Dwarf, DI, Pandaren and Kul'Tiran as Shaman options can't really be compared to Hordies only having little twig boy elves or stupidly giant tauren as their paladin options. I mean if Alliance players want to treat this is a victory sure but they ought to know it's not the sort of balancing change they need to fix the H:A ratio in WM and endgame content.

[Velshin]

While they do, we (horde), have more shaman races than alliance. So, that statement is kinda invalid. /shrug

Nope it is not invalid here let us calculate shall we?

Shaman class:

Horde: Troll, Orc, Tauren, Mag'har, Goblin, Highmountain, Pandaren

Alliance: Draenei, Dwarf, Dark Iron Dwarf.

Paladin Class:

Horde: Blood elf, and Tauren.

Alliance: Human, Dwarf, Dark Iron Dwarf, Draenei, Lightforged Draenei.

So yeah is that invalid for you?

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People crying that zandalar don't get paladin are in so much denial. Without Rezan they have no more reason to be paladin which is perfectly fine the horde are supposed to have fewer paladin choices then alliance seeing as it used to be an alliance only class much like alliance have fewer shamans.

Please don't say stuff like Zandalari troll don't have Rezan so no lore for paladin so they can't be paladin.

Tauren have a lot of lore as paladin? in Cataclysm expansion paladin class became available for Tauren with zero lore reasons so please stop the lore stuff thingy because if Blizzard want to make any race (insert class) they can. They are not forced to put lore reason behind any class combination.

[Ahrean]

Surprised no one is talking about what

"New Map
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion

Icecrown Citadel (8.1)"

could mean

We know we'll be going to see the Lich King as part of the Vol'jin questline, which is what this most likely is for.

[Julaes]

Nope it is not invalid here let us calculate shall we?

Shaman class:

Horde: Troll, Orc, Tauren, Mag'har, Goblin, Highmountain, Pandaren

Alliance: Draenei, Dwarf, Dark Iron Dwarf.

Paladin Class:

Horde: Blood elf, and Tauren.

Alliance: Human, Dwarf, Dark Iron Dwarf, Draenei, Lightforged Draenei.

So yeah is that invalid for you?

So, basically, you're proving his point.
The Alliance has 5 races that can be paladins while the Horde only has 2 but the Horde has 6 races that can be shamans while the Alliance only has 3, is the same difference of 3 races in both cases. As originally paladins were Alliance only and Shaman Horde only, I do not see any problem in how things are at the moment, but I believe that if the Zandalari got paladins the Kul Tirans will receive shamans to keep the balance.

Interesting fact, ignoring Kul Tirans and Zandalari that we are still not sure of the classes that they can be and Pandaren that is equal for both sides, follows a list of combos between race and class currently existing within the game:

Equal on both sides:
Hunter - A = 9 / H = 9
Rogue - A = 7 / H = 7
Warlock - A = 6 / H = 6
Warrior - A = 9 / H = 9
DK - A = 6 / H = 6

Allaince have more:
Mage - A = 9 / H = 7
Paladin - A = 5 / H = 2
Priest - A = 9 / H = 7

Horde have more:
Druid - A = 2 / H = 3
Shaman - A = 3 / H = 6
Monk - A = 7 / H = 8

[Velshin]

So, basically, you're proving his point.
The Alliance has 5 races that can be paladins while the Horde only has 2 but the Horde has 6 races that can be shamans while the Alliance only has 3, is the same difference of 3 races in both cases. As originally paladins were Alliance only and Shaman Horde only, I do not see any problem in how things are at the moment, but I believe that if the Zandalari got paladins the Kul Tirans will receive shamans to keep the balance.

Interesting fact, ignoring Kul Tirans and Zandalari that we are still not sure of the classes that they can be and Pandaren that is equal for both sides, follows a list of combos between race and class currently existing within the game:

Equal on both sides:
Hunter - A = 9 / H = 9
Rogue - A = 7 / H = 7
Warlock - A = 6 / H = 6
Warrior - A = 9 / H = 9
DK - A = 6 / H = 6

Allaince have more:
Mage - A = 9 / H = 7
Paladin - A = 5 / H = 2
Priest - A = 9 / H = 7

Horde have more:
Druid - A = 2 / H = 3
Shaman - A = 3 / H = 6
Monk - A = 7 / H = 8

I am not proving his point at all man can't you count? Shaman in Alliance side have 3 races and Horde for paladins just 2? is that even hard to calculate.....seriously... haha

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I am not proving his point at all man can't you count? Shaman in Alliance side have 3 races and Horde for paladins just 2? is that even hard to calculate.....seriously... haha

My main point was about the Zandalari if they can't be paladin then yes Alliance will have more classes for their races than Horde. I was talking about paladin class specifically here and how Horde must have one more paladin class race which must be Zandalari but I guess you didn't even read my post in the first place eh?

I know about the origin of paladin class being for Alliance only and Shaman only for the Horde. I was playing during classic and I was human paladin.

[Lady Velvet]

Daddy Lor'themar looks so COOL!

I love him...

[Crookids]

My God Lorthemar looks good.

A shame we'll never have the opportunity to have ear piercings and hair like that on our BEs. I hope heritage armor at least looks nearly as good.

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Surprised no one is talking about what

"New Map
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion

Icecrown Citadel (8.1)"

could mean

Because it's probably TW raid ICC.