Why can't the father choose not to pay the child support if he wants abortion?

[Eggroll]

Condoms don't work all the time.

Well, if men were the ones being pregnant it would be different. But they ain't. Deal with it.

[derpkitteh]

if we're going to allow abortion, this should be how it works.

it's unfair that a woman gets all the choice in this.

[Deleted]

Both abortion and childbirth leaves marks - both physical and mentally.

Seems like some of you are forgetting that the men, whom in theory caused the problem, does not get any life-long repercussions.

I'm not saying it is fair for the man, that he should pay, for something he never wished to happen.
I just wanted to even the weights a little.

[Eggroll]

if we're going to allow abortion, this should be how it works.

it's unfair that a woman gets all the choice in this.

You mean, as a man, you want to have the power to command what another person does with his body?

Why is it that people can not fathom that their actions have consequences? If you as a guy have sex with a woman there#s a risk of pregnancy. Well, maybe don't fuck around everywhere. How about that?

[Naked Snake]

Well, if men were the ones being pregnant it would be different. But they ain't. Deal with it.

What does that have to do with my comment?

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Why is it that people can not fathom that their actions have consequences? If you as a guy have sex with a woman there#s a risk of pregnancy. Well, maybe don't fuck around everywhere. How about that?

It sounds like you should be against abortion with that attitude.

[Puri]

Why is it that people can not fathom that their actions have consequences? If you as a guy have sex with a woman there#s a risk of pregnancy. Well, maybe don't fuck around everywhere. How about that?

With the same reasoning I can demand that a women does not abort if she wants to as the father.

[Jtbrig7390]

You mean, as a man, you want to have the power to command what another person does with his body?

If a woman can abort from responsibility then a man should be able to as well.

A woman can abort from having the child therefore cutting all responsibility.

A Man should be able to abort from having any responsibility from the child as well.

Its that simple.

[Eggroll]

What does that have to do with my comment?

Apparently whomever is the one being pregnant is getting the choice. It just happens to be the woman.

[Naked Snake]

Apparently whomever is the one being pregnant is getting the choice. It just happens to be the woman.

So again, what does that have to do with my comment? You are writing nothing but gibberish.

[Dhrizzle]

I think men should be required to pay, but as something to balance out them not having an option to opt out, the woman receiving the money should be required to show some sort of proof where the money goes. I'm sure everyone has seen memes of some chick posting about her several hundred dollar outfit that child support money bought. It's all funny when you see it like that, but I've had old friends of mine have to deal with it in reality and it's considerably less amusing for them.

I don't exactly have a problem with some sort of oversight as to how the money is spent, it seems like a shitty system but it suits the shitty situation. Ideally both parents would be involved in raising the child so the one paying support would know where their money is going, but that would require more maturity than a lot of people are able to show.

[derpkitteh]

You mean, as a man, you want to have the power to command what another person does with his body?

Why is it that people can not fathom that their actions have consequences? If you as a guy have sex with a woman there#s a risk of pregnancy. Well, maybe don't fuck around everywhere. How about that?

i'm not a guy, and i'm pro-choice. i think the man having the option to have a monetary abortion is only fair.

[Illiterate]

The system is rigged against men in every way.

[Rendark]

Apparently whomever is the one being pregnant is getting the choice. It just happens to be the woman.

That doesn't sound very fair to me. Why should someone have less rights based purely on circumstances of birth?

[wonderlust]

Because feminists want equality....except when it doesnt benefit them

Feminists don't want equality, they want equity.

Equality is treating everyone the same, regardless of what they are (which is a very dumb notion).
Equity is treating each individual based on what/who they are (which is the smart way to do things).

If you have a frog and a snail, you don't test them both by measuring how high they can jump.

[Dhrizzle]

if we're going to allow abortion, this should be how it works.

it's unfair that a woman gets all the choice in this.

The woman gets to choose what happens with her body, it she chooses not to abort then there is a child both parents are responsible for.

[Eggroll]

With the same reasoning I can demand that a women does not abort if she wants to as the father.

Depends on the relationship with the woman maybe? If you just picked her up at a nightclub to impregnate her to then force her to have your baby
that would be more than weird.

On the other hand, if you have an actual relationship those questions should usually answer themselves within the relationship because in a normal
world a couple decides wether THEY want to have children or not.

The OP suggests it's more about a hit and run fuck tbh.

[derpkitteh]

The woman gets to choose what happens with her body, it she chooses not to abort then there is a child both parents are responsible for.

if she chose not to abort, she brought it on herself and should have to deal with that herself.

[Dhrizzle]

That doesn't sound very fair to me. Why should someone have less rights based purely on circumstances of birth?

Then you should campaign for men to have the right to abort unborn babies they are carrying.

[Natta Lmo]

sounds like u shouldnt be having sex if u dont want to be responsible for what u did...

[Ehrenpanzer]

Feminists don't want equality, they want equity.

Equality is treating everyone the same, regardless of what they are (which is a very dumb notion).
Equity is treating each individual based on what/who they are (which is the smart way to do things).

If you have a frog and a snail, you don't test them both by measuring how high they can jump.

Thats actually a very astute observation and awareness. Unfortunately, thats not what feminists want. They want total equality, regardless of skill or ability.