Asmongold, voice of many, shares his thoughts on current state of WoW

[Mirishka]

Voice of mindless people who can't make up their own minds about things, maybe. I couldn't care any less about him or his opinion if I consciously tried.

[Gadzooks]

Sometimes all it takes is for these issues to be pointed out clearly by a "youtube celebrity".

He's not the first one though is he:

Bellular - Was shilling for a long time. Hired by Blizzard to do "begginer videos". Even he has started shitting on the pathetic state BfA is in.

Kelani - Usually super positive. Multiple videos shitting on the state of the game.

Hogman(Cartoonz) - Multi rank 1 gladiator literally quit the game during Alpha because of the shit-show class design was in. He moved to Fortnite. When someone quits what used to be a complex RPG for fucking Fortnite you know something is wrong.

Preach - Brought up all these issues in Alpha repeatedly. People tried to flog it off saying its typical negative Preach. Surprise surprise, everything he pointed out came true.

Method - Multiple Method players have spoken out about the shit show this game is in. A funny one was their top Shaman player.

And now we have Asmongold. WoWs biggest Twitch streamer. Taking large dumps on the state of the game.




Keep sticking your head in the sand though. Good job.

Even Taleisen and Evitel have been throwing shade on the same things people are "crying" about, and they're pretty Happy Happy Joy Joy when it comes to WoW. It's pretty universal, wherever you look - YouTube, Twitter, here, other sites, Facebook, their own forums - the game systems of BfA are a hot dumpster fire. Everything else is great, is also universally agreed upon.

The only one I'm aware of not complaining is Panser.

[Gungnir]

Cry baby fucking self fellating fruit cakes. Go get some sun and a hearty piece of ass.

Not only did you manage to be offensive, ignorant and self-righteous in the same post, you managed to cram in some healthy sexism aswell.

The world surely needs more of you.

[Zogarth]

The content of Asmongold and MethodJosh influencers were both created and written by Blizzard, everything they say, including donation and the chat messages they read out loud and respond to all created for the show. It amazes me how well their new type of viral marketing works to touch a kind of mentally ill gamer type you can't reach through regular channels.

Actually Asmongold is a Blizzard developer himself, and a part of the lizard elite. Also, the moonlanding never happened, 9/11 was an inside job, the earth is flat, and radio-waves mind control people.

[Darkguyver2020]

You're assuming the players live in some kind of a bubble unaware of how crap BfA is?
When people love something they defend it, did it accure to you that maybe most of WoW players agree with the "crybabies" and that's why
everywhere you go you see negative reaction to BfA?
At least we "crybabies" have some visual indications that this xpac is a huge flop
What do you have? can you show us any kind of numbers that will contradict the backlash or is it all based on your blind trust on Blizzard and Ion?

What the fuck are you smoking? The forums have been an ungodly shitshow since WoW was first conceived. Yes, even during Vanilla and BC. Both considered the Golden age of WoW by many a nostalgia blinded nerd.
I've lost count of the amount of times that WoW has apparently "died" since I first started playing. A bunch of insufferable virgins whining about a video game doesn't prove anything, except maybe the fact that you fucktards need to find something better to do with your pathetic existences.

[chooi]

Again, that's always how this conversation goes. The most toxic people threw the shit, and then when someone says it's not fine, the most rational and balanced critical posters show up and say it was unfair.

Saying what you don't like is perfectly fine. Except 70% posts on this forum are along those lines "ayyyy unsub from this shit game right now or you're a fanboi". Or "only idiots like BfA it's OBJECTIVELY BAD".

Also, if you like the underlying mechanic and the core of the game.....then you just like the game mate. You dislike some parts of it, which is normal, unless you expect the game to be absolutely perfect, which will never happen.

With almost 1.5k posts on this forum you should know who to simply ignore.

BTT: Yes, I like the Raid game. I'm okay with the M+ game. I don't like the WQ game, the PVP game, the Warfront game, the Expedition game and the Crafting game in BFA. I really hate the Slot-Machine Casino game which is embedded everywhere now. (Just being rough here. I don't want to write a novel about this.)

And don't get me wrong, I was actually really lucky this time with the Casino game given the time invested compared to my fellow raiders. But it's still not fun because I also know that it can go the other way next time. I simply prefer linear progression with a clear goal and direction that ends once you reach that goal.

[RoKPaNda]

So Standard Asmongold video? Play an expansion and then two months in release a whine video? He did it for the last few expansions also. Play hype game for free money, then release a video trashing it later in hopes that it will spawn threads just like this and get more free views.

All that needs to be said about BfA is this: If you liked Legion, everything that you liked about Legion is still intact in BfA (Unless you were a fan of legendaries.) - Even if you don't like the new features like Warfronts and Island whatevers BfA is still at least as good as Legion by default. If you didn't like Legion, well, WoW probably isn't for you anymore. And those new features that aren't as good as they should be? They're working on them. They've said that in a Reddit AMA and an official Q&A session. It may not have been done the way that people like Asmongold had hoped, but that's how it is. And this idea of Blizzard polish that's somehow gone? Laughable. That's a term that Blizzard came up with. Anyone who ever played their games know that they're just as bad as Bethesda about releasing bug filled and unbalanced games with kneejerk hamfisted patches that break things more until they finally get it right. They always have been, they always will be.

[Metallourlante]

So Standard Asmongold video? Play an expansion and then two months in release a whine video? He did it for the last few expansions also. Play hype game for free money, then release a video trashing it later in hopes that it will spawn threads just like this and get more free views.

All that needs to be said about BfA is this: If you liked Legion, everything that you liked about Legion is still intact in BfA (Unless you were a fan of legendaries.) - Even if you don't like the new features like Warfronts and Island whatevers BfA is still at least as good as Legion by default. If you didn't like Legion, well, WoW probably isn't for you anymore. And those new features that aren't as good as they should be? They're working on them. They've said that in a Reddit AMA and an official Q&A session. It may not have been done the way that people like Asmongold had hoped, but that's how it is. And this idea of Blizzard polish that's somehow gone? Laughable. That's a term that Blizzard came up with. Anyone who ever played their games know that they're just as bad as Bethesda about releasing bug filled and unbalanced games with kneejerk hamfisted patches that break things more until they finally get it right. They always have been, they always will be.

Not even close.

[Mage in Pajamas]

I first noticed it back in the early Alpha with everyone posting and parroting "Well Taliesin & Evital said ___." Then it became Asmongold, and Bellular, so on down the line.

Interesting, it's always whoever is the most overtly negative and hardline pessimistic.

T&E are always optimistic. If anything they take the piss out of the forums crowd with the 'sh#@show' sarcasm bit.

Bellular is always thoughtful and usually very pro-Blizz. You can tell he's frustrated with this expac. He was not the negative nancy of the moment in Legion.

Asmon is the guy I can't stand. I find his videos lazy. I especially find his "reacts to" series disgusting, as he lazily replays other peoples' videos , adds nothing of value, and collects views. Some have been so bad, I would argue he added nothing transformative and therefore stole content.

One of his recent "reacts to Preach's" video was just him saying, "Yeah, I agree. Yeah that's true" over and over. Way to be a thief, dude.

[evermynd]

You guys are delusional if you think blizzard doesn't communicate. They communicate insanely well for a business of their size and of any size.

[ohanna]

What the fuck are you smoking? The forums have been an ungodly shitshow since WoW was first conceived. Yes, even during Vanilla and BC. Both considered the Golden age of WoW by many a nostalgia blinded nerd.
I've lost count of the amount of times that WoW has apparently "died" since I first started playing. A bunch of insufferable virgins whining about a video game doesn't prove anything, except maybe the fact that you fucktards need to find something better to do with your pathetic existences.

Wow, you really need to have some sex in your life, you sound stressed out and bitter.
I'll go easy on you shakey one: the HUGE difference is that Vanilla / BC / Wrath GAINED subscribers, so even when ppl were "whining" the majority
of us felt a healthy lively game.
Did WoW had flaws? ofc, always! on every expansion!
Did any previous xpac launched so messy, buggy, boring, meaningless like BfA is now? no, NEVER!
The funny (and sad) thing is that you're telling us that we need to do "something better with our existance". hmm, hello? we unsub'd, we don't play wow anymore,
but we do care about this game still since we left friends there hoping to come back when this s%&%show of Ion & Co. will end.

[Craaazyyy]

I'd like to imagine the majority of people who are having fun with BFA will be playing the game instead of flocking to toxic WoWtubers like Assmongoloid and Heelinmanchildsface.
All the crybabies love to brown nose so called e-celebs as a means to justify their petty anger over their asinine first world problems.

yeah, but not a lot of people play the game these days.. also some people dont like that game as much but still playing it for one reason or another

also i absolutely love how people like you think that if someone has the same opinion as some sort of "celebrity" of any kind that means he gotten influenced by that celebrity and its not his actual opinion

[RoKPaNda]

Not even close.

Except by all accounts the good Legion content is still intact so it HAS TO be at least as good. Hence all the "Oh it's Legion 2.0" whine posts.

[ONCHEhap]

You're assuming the players live in some kind of a bubble unaware of how crap BfA is?
When people love something they defend it, did it accure to you that maybe most of WoW players agree with the "crybabies" and that's why
everywhere you go you see negative reaction to BfA?
At least we "crybabies" have some visual indications that this xpac is a huge flop
What do you have? can you show us any kind of numbers that will contradict the backlash or is it all based on your blind trust on Blizzard and Ion?

https://web.archive.org/web/20080914...Id=10001&sid=1


This is litterally the forums on the 14th september of 2008
Don't go pretending that GD was ever not a complete shitshow of whining and people saying "I quit"

[Craaazyyy]

Except by all accounts the good Legion content is still intact so it HAS TO be at least as good. Hence all the "Oh it's Legion 2.0" whine posts.

but its not just about content existing, its about other shit that got removed and replaced with trash systems like azerite bs

also not everyone shares the opinion that Legion was good

[Darkguyver2020]

Wow, you really need to have some sex in your life, you sound stressed out and bitter.

Really now?

As usual, another crappy Q&A with various questions that no one cares about along with Ion's most repeated word "philosophy" and non-answers.
Let's see how much time it will take Blizz to fire this clown.

People like who accept Ion's BS are the reason WoW reached this low point.

Good, enjoy the crap-fest expansion that you adore so much
Just don't be surprised when you one day log in and see much less players around you, those "crybabies" that without them your game experience won't be the same.
Unlike you we are not wired to love anything that Blizzard releases, so have fun with the Azewrong system while we spend our money on better games.

Pot calling the kettle black.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080914...Id=10001&sid=1


This is litterally the forums on the 14th september of 2008
Don't go pretending that GD was ever not a complete shitshow of whining and people saying "I quit"

Hahah. Check-fucking-mate, bitch!

[Ozyorkbourne]

gear is almost pointless when it comes to mythic raiding 90% of it is mechanics and ability

Mythic bosses are designed to be killed with heroic ilvl gear btw wtf game have you been playing

nothing about mythic will be nerfed

And what mythic raid experience do you have to back that up. You're suggesting that to kill a boss every member of the 20 man team would need to play mechanically perfect, zero lost dps, like an actual bot to down bosses then? Maybe I have the wrong profile but you're basing this off what, 4 taloc pugs and a mother kill for mythic?

Maybe you're trolling or maybe you genuinely think gear doesn't improve dps enough to make bosses more killable, but I assure you gear matters a lot for boss kills in competent groups.

[Shakou]

pvp (arena*) is the best thing about this xpac

nothing more needs to be said

The fuck? Unbalanced mess. Assassination rogues are 10% of everything at 2400 rating and above, but they keep hard nerfing warriors who are not even 2%. Other problem specs include: frost mages, resto druids, resto/enhance shamans and absolutely no significant nerfs have happened. Instead they nerf the classes that were underperforming at gladiator and rank 1 ratings. So dumb to balance pvp around low lvl pvp where people don't know how to play the game.

[Craaazyyy]

https://web.archive.org/web/20080914...Id=10001&sid=1


This is litterally the forums on the 14th september of 2008
Don't go pretending that GD was ever not a complete shitshow of whining and people saying "I quit"

different reasons of why people were whining

also Wrath launch was awful, but they made it much better later on

you can say, well, they can do the same with BFA, but i personally dont think they can, first of all i think Wrath was the last expansion which was able to recover after a shitty start.. some of expansions actually gotten worse with time

also i dont think BFA has the foundation that is needed for a successful recovery..

i also dont share the opinion that Legion was good(i dont consider any part of it good.. start, middle of it, or the end)

[FiveDkp]

BFA is a decent expansion. It is just that Legion was an amazing expansion and was on a completely different level compared to BFA. Hence BFA looks like a steaming turd compared to it.

The biggest issues is the lack of azerite armor farming. Still is, make it drop in M+ or don't bother! Give the hardcore something to do!