1. #6521
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Trump claims during a rally that if he hadn't of mocked Ford, they wouldn't have won.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...speech-mocking

    He also refuses to say she lied. That means a sitting POTUS, mocked a victim of sexual assault simply to get a political win. If you support this shitgibbon, you no longer get to talk about morals or civility.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/10/14/17976...anaugh-accuser

    Bonus points - as with a large number of his supporters, Trump just overtly expressed that he doesn't care whether or not Ford was right. If her allegations were all true and what she claimed to have taken place took place, Trump simply doesn't care.

    Why? Because he "won", and "winning" is all that matters apparently.

  2. #6522
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Trump claims during a rally that if he hadn't of mocked Ford, they wouldn't have won.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...speech-mocking

    He also refuses to say she lied. That means a sitting POTUS, mocked a victim of sexual assault simply to get a political win. If you support this shitgibbon, you no longer get to talk about morals or civility.
    Supporting that sort of behavior means you probably don't belong in a civilized world.

  3. #6523
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodakane View Post
    Trump claims during a rally that if he hadn't of mocked Ford, they wouldn't have won.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...speech-mocking

    He also refuses to say she lied. That means a sitting POTUS, mocked a victim of sexual assault simply to get a political win. If you support this shitgibbon, you no longer get to talk about morals or civility.
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  4. #6524
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
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    And this is why Trump is a fucking moron. And anyone still with him, are the problem.

  5. #6525
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
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    "It doesn't matter. We won."

    These should be fucking terrifying comments to anyone.

  6. #6526
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    "It doesn't matter. We won."

    These should be fucking terrifying comments to anyone.
    It isn't to the ones that are sucking the fake tanner off Trump's toadstool cock.

  7. #6527
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Yeah, the evidence is his testimony - you know, what he said while under oath? Are you confused about what perjury is and means? I sense zero good faith posting here - no matter what I say, you'll just blow it off. But since some of us still embrace intellectual honesty, the key perjurious statement by Kav was him claiming not to have watched Ford's testimony. He did, and almost 20 people saw him doing it. That's perjury.

    You're going to argue "who cares" because it's such a small thing. And the answer to that is, if he lies about small things, why do you think he wasn't lying about the big ticket items.

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    How can you be this uninformed about someone you're so passionate about defending?

    Roberts refers ethics complaints against Kavanaugh to federal judges

    Ethics complaints against Brett Kavanaugh have not been resolved yet

    Ignorance is not your friend in this fight - even though your side seems to embrace it for the moment.
    @cubby - So the Fbi conducted 6 background checks on him and they did an in depth interview of every relevant person relating to Ford or Kavanaugh. As for everyone saying 1 week wasn't enough, the FBI has thousands of agents and could interview hundreds of people in a day. There was no need to interview Kavanaugh or Ford again, they both already submitted testimony under oath. Do you think the FBI wouldn't get the truth out from them due to the media calling this a limited scope investigation? surely the FBI could work around any difficulty, as said by James Comey "they are up to the task"

    Lets try this again. I might have to use bold letters so you understand things better. I asked "what complaints came up in the past for Kavanaugh before the nominee hearing, specifically during the 12 years where he was on the bench? please provide a source for those.

    I was not talking about the recent complaints because he lost his temper when he was repeatedly called a gang rapist by every left leaning media outlet with zero evidence. Those type of complaints remind me of a situation akin to when your high school teacher gives you a bad grade and you decide to file a complaint against him, perhaps call him a rapist or something like that. Whatever works in the democrat playbook.

    Speaking of perjury, Christine Ford may have tread very close to the subject herself. Not that it really matters anymore. I suppose this just goes to show you that not everyone is 100% honest in their testimony at times.
    source https://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...rjury-problem/

    What intellectual honesty? The democrats are willing to hang an innocent man because they don't like his politics and think he might vote against their interests on key issues. How far have we fallen.

    The right is still willing to back their nominee, and stand by him. We will wait for corroborative evidence before we actually convict someone and we don't rely on hearsay or vague statements/contradictory statements from witnesses that quickly retract them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.vox.com/2018/10/14/17976...anaugh-accuser

    Bonus points - as with a large number of his supporters, Trump just overtly expressed that he doesn't care whether or not Ford was right. If her allegations were all true and what she claimed to have taken place took place, Trump simply doesn't care.

    Why? Because he "won", and "winning" is all that matters apparently.
    trump says stupid things, more news at 11.
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  8. #6528
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post

    Speaking of perjury, Christine Ford may have tread very close to the subject herself. Not that it really matters anymore. I suppose this just goes to show you that not everyone is 100% honest in their testimony at times.
    source https://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...rjury-problem/
    Literally everything about that site, including the way it's written, should be a giant red flag that it should not be a place where you get any sort of information from. Why am I never surprised to learn where certain people find their opinions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    Surely there are better ways to criticize someone than to complain that they're asking you to actually back up what you're saying with...you know...facts. Especially given that American conservatives and their shills refuse to let facts get in the way of any of the horseshit they believe. Surely.
    Conservatives don't want facts. None of the show these people put on is about getting information. It's about being an assclown long enough that you stop pressing your point simply because they're ridiculous, while they giggle at all of the hoops they're throwing you through.

  9. #6529
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    Literally everything about that site, including the way it's written, should be a giant red flag that it should not be a place where you get any sort of information from. Why am I never surprised to learn where certain people find their opinions?

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    Conservatives don't want facts. None of the show these people put on is about getting information. It's about being an assclown long enough that you stop pressing your point simply because they're ridiculous, while they giggle at all of the hoops they're throwing you through.
    Source shaming, that's a great idea, especially when you don't actually have any corroborative evidence for what happened so instead you just attack the source and claim misinformation.

  10. #6530
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    Source shaming, that's a great idea, especially when you don't actually have any corroborative evidence for what happened so instead you just attack the source and claim misinformation.
    But there's this tote FBI investigation that clears Kavanaugh the white house and the republican says so but they won't release it because.... reasons....

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    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    @cubby - So the Fbi conducted 6 background checks on him
    Irrelevant unless you really want to get into the thousands of examples where background checks didn't turn up criminal activity.

    and they did an in depth interview of every relevant person relating to Ford or Kavanaugh.
    What? That's not true. The FBI came out and said they were limited in their investigation.

    But then again, you've shown you aren't really interested in the truth. You just want to be right.
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  12. #6532
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    Source shaming, that's a great idea, especially when you don't actually have any corroborative evidence for what happened so instead you just attack the source and claim misinformation.
    Try not using the internet equivalent of a hobo on the street screaming about UFOs then. You don't get to link shit basically one step above infowars and whine about being called out on it.
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  13. #6533
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenonis View Post
    Irrelevant unless you really want to get into the thousands of examples where background checks didn't turn up criminal activity.

    What? That's not true. The FBI came out and said they were limited in their investigation.

    But then again, you've shown you aren't really interested in the truth. You just want to be right.
    Democrats aren't interested in the truth either, if they were they wouldn't have held onto the allegations till the very last minute and instead spent the time used to question Kavanaugh about the allegations during his nominee hearing.

    Regarding the FBI, there wasn't really much to investigate. Kavanaugh and Ford already provided their testimony under oath and under threat of perjury. However, you are correct in a sense; The FBI missed interviewing the guy who accused Kavanaugh of throwing ice at a party - my bad on that. One potentially ground breaking witness was missed.

    The current FBI director says the interview was per normal standards, and the FBI wrapped up their interviews before the week had finished. If the FBI needed more time, wouldn't they use the full 7 days instead of wrapping up their investigation in 5?
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/fbi-ch...robe-1.4857144

    Most people realised the majority of the allegations raised were not worth the FBI's time due to being either inconsistent/vague/false/other reasons, and therefore they weren't interviewed.

    Quote Originally Posted by shimerra View Post
    Try not using the internet equivalent of a hobo on the street screaming about UFOs then. You don't get to link shit basically one step above infowars and whine about being called out on it.
    But people link CNN all the time and don't get called out on it.

  14. #6534
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    Democrats aren't interested in the truth either
    Wrong, we are. Hence the investigation, everybody know's how much of a sham brett kavanaugh's "Investigation" was. 1 week is not nearly enough time for an investigation.

    Also you're completely Ignoring Trump making fun of a Victim.

    if they were they wouldn't have held onto the allegations till the very last minute and instead spent the time used to question Kavanaugh about the allegations during his nominee hearing.
    Again that was Blasey Ford's Choice.
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  15. #6535
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Wrong, we are. Hence the investigation, everybody know's how much of a sham brett kavanaugh's "Investigation" was. 1 week is not nearly enough time for an investigation.

    Also you're completely Ignoring Trump making fun of a Victim.



    Again that was Blasey Ford's Choice.
    1 week was plenty, there was literally 0 things to investigate. Ford failed to name the time or place/day/how did we get there/how did we get back? there was no corroborative evidence, so all the FBI had to do was interview witnesses. The FBI has hundreds of agents in every office... do you think they were short staffed? or something?

    Again, the FBI wrapped up their interview within 5 days, they didn't use all 7 days for whatever reason. You would think if they needed more time they would have spent every spare minute they had to interview and they would have finished on day 7 instead. One can only conclude that they finished early due to not having any further need to interview.

    I dont condone Trump for making fun of the victim, that's wrong even if she made it up.

    Actually that was Finesteins choice, she could have checked over the report quietly, also as a ranking member of the senate Judiciary committee, she could have also ran an investigation without the need of the FBI.
    Last edited by announced; 2018-10-16 at 04:22 AM.

  16. #6536
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    1 week was plenty, there was literally 0 things to investigate.
    Complete BULL ROFL.

    They didn't even interview the main suspects.

    Again, the FBI wrapped up their interview within 5 days, they didn't use all 7 days for whatever reason.
    The Investigation was already "Limited" so of course it only took 5 days.

    Actually that was Finesteins choice
    Wrong, It was because of Ford. Don't know why you're ignoring Feinstein did what she did because of Ford.

    I dont condone Trump for making fun of the victim, that's wrong even if she made it up.
    And nothing is going to happen just because you don't "Condone", republicans have completely failed to hold Trump responsible for his actions.

    But then again You know Trump is going to get away with it, because it's clear that Trumpers don't care, they have lost all semblance of respect.
    Last edited by szechuan; 2018-10-16 at 04:53 AM.
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  17. #6537
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post

    But people link CNN all the time and don't get called out on it.
    The fact that you compare the two shows the lack of critical thinking and massive partisanship. Idiots like you, and Trump pretty much wandering from one instance of jackassery to the next, put CNN back into relevance when it before they were hoping from hologram to whatever their gimmick of the week was to keep people interested.

    But one thing they have done is maintained a relative journalistic integrity with their biggest issue is having to issue a correction because they screwed something up in their rush to be first. But unlike the crap ass bullshit website you linked they do make the correction, they don't post conspiracies(in fact red state basically is nothing but a Right wing conspiracy site).


    Partisans like yourself can never point to anything substantial as to why CNN is so horrid outside that they accurately describe the stupid things your God King trump does. In fact CNN before Trump was basically just the nonsense people had to ignore at airports until your Great Leader told you all to hate it because they were mean to time. Fake News has nothing to do with whether or not the news is Fake as Trump applies it and everything to do with whether or not it's mean/negative regarding Trump. The fact that CNN had a lot to report on Trump and the fact that it wasn't flattering is an issue with Trump, not CNN.
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  18. #6538
    Quote Originally Posted by shimerra View Post
    Partisans like yourself can never point to anything substantial as to why CNN is so horrid outside that they accurately describe the stupid things your God King trump does. In fact CNN before Trump was basically just the nonsense people had to ignore at airports until your Great Leader told you all to hate it because they were mean to time. Fake News has nothing to do with whether or not the news is Fake as Trump applies it and everything to do with whether or not it's mean/negative regarding Trump. The fact that CNN had a lot to report on Trump and the fact that it wasn't flattering is an issue with Trump, not CNN.

    You can also blame Youtube for part of the problem Including people like Philip DeFranco, he is Disingenuous in his "reporting".
    Last edited by szechuan; 2018-10-16 at 05:26 AM.
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  19. #6539
    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Complete BULL ROFL.

    They didn't even interview the main suspects.



    The Investigation was already "Limited" so of course it only took 5 days.



    Wrong, It was because of Ford. Don't know why you're ignoring Feinstein did what she did because of Ford.



    And nothing is going to happen just because you don't "Condone", republicans have completely failed to hold Trump responsible for his actions.

    But then again You know Trump is going to get away with it, because it's clear that Trumpers don't care, they have lost all semblance of respect.
    Rofl, what main suspects. Do you mean Kavanaugh at Judge? perhaps you need to learn how to read someday. The FBI did interview Judge
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brett-k...viewed-so-far/

    Quote Originally Posted by CBS
    Who is the FBI Interviewing?
    Mark Judge
    Dr. Christine Blasey Ford has accused longtime Kavanaugh friend Judge of being in the room with Kavanaugh during the alleged sexual assault. Judge, an alcoholic who has memorialized his drinking in a book, has publicly said through his lawyer he has no recollection of the incident described by Ford.

    On Oct. 2, Judge's lawyer, Biz Van Gelder, said in a statement the FBI had finished interviewing Judge. The FBI's interview took place over the course of at least two days.
    The other main suspect, Kavanaugh was not interviewed for obvious reasons. Kavanaugh was already interviewed multiple times by the FBI, the senate and has given sworn testimony under oath. Ford was also not interviewed due to already providing testimony.

    according to https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...-letter-822902 Feinstein sat on the letter for over 30 hours of testimony, and over 2000 questions from various senators regarding Kavanaugh. She received the letter on July 30th apparently. Whether she kept it private to respect Ford's wishes, who knows? but the allegations were leaked from Feinstein's office anyway.


    I never know Szechuan was an actual FBI agent and has the relevant expertise to comment on this investigation, and insist that it takes a few weeks or months. Clearly it's not a stall tactic at all. However, EX-FBI director Jim Comey already stated he has complete confidence in the FBI right here https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...igation-854308

    If Comey says they can do it, wouldn't you be inclined to believe him?


    Quote Originally Posted by shimerra View Post
    The fact that you compare the two shows the lack of critical thinking and massive partisanship. Idiots like you, and Trump pretty much wandering from one instance of jackassery to the next, put CNN back into relevance when it before they were hoping from hologram to whatever their gimmick of the week was to keep people interested.

    But one thing they have done is maintained a relative journalistic integrity with their biggest issue is having to issue a correction because they screwed something up in their rush to be first. But unlike the crap ass bullshit website you linked they do make the correction, they don't post conspiracies(in fact red state basically is nothing but a Right wing conspiracy site).


    Partisans like yourself can never point to anything substantial as to why CNN is so horrid outside that they accurately describe the stupid things your God King trump does. In fact CNN before Trump was basically just the nonsense people had to ignore at airports until your Great Leader told you all to hate it because they were mean to time. Fake News has nothing to do with whether or not the news is Fake as Trump applies it and everything to do with whether or not it's mean/negative regarding Trump. The fact that CNN had a lot to report on Trump and the fact that it wasn't flattering is an issue with Trump, not CNN.

    What integrity? CNN was sucking Obama's cock for 8 years, they literally didn't do their job to ask any tough questions or even challenge the president on any issue. They changed from having reporters report the news, to virtue signalling and trying to become the news. Don Lemon still refers to himself as an objective journalist instead of a partisan hack.
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  20. #6540
    Quote Originally Posted by announced View Post
    Rofl, what main suspects. Do you mean Kavanaugh at Judge? perhaps you need to learn how to read someday. The FBI did interview Judge
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brett-k...viewed-so-far/
    ROTFLMAO
    Do you even read the articles you post?

    Kavanaugh was already interviewed multiple times by the FBI, the senate and has given sworn testimony under oath.
    No he wasn't.

    CNN was sucking Obama's cock for 8 years, they literally didn't do their job to ask any tough questions or even challenge the president on any issue.
    Why bother with Birtherist Questions from the Right Wing that are obsessed with Conspiracy?

    Whether she kept it private to respect Ford's wishes?
    She did, but when people found out Ford came out.

    I never know Szechuan was an actual FBI agent and has the relevant expertise to comment on this investigation.
    How can they even do a "Proper" investigation if they didn't even interview the Main suspects?
    Last edited by szechuan; 2018-10-16 at 06:37 AM.
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