Elizabeth Warren releases her DNA test.

[Grapemask]

When did she campaign on her native american heritage?

Exactly. She has never used her heritage while campaigning. The only time it came up at all was when brought up by a Republican.

This is how fucktards like Trump manage to flip the script for the army of fucktards.

[DisNagaEatinBeans]

Most white Americans are 98.6% caucasian, with 1% (or less) genes from other races.

According to the study circulating in the media, Elizabeth Warren is anywhere from 1/64th to 1/1024th native american. This means she is even whiter than most white americans.

The woman is a liar. The president should either donate 1/1024th of a million dollars to her charity, or donate the full million to an actual native american charity.

[SupBrah]

Alright, so when did all these conditions get added? Because they seem new as of...*checks watch*...today.



Except Warren has never used slurs against native americans. Except she doesn't claim to be native american, only have native american ancestry.

This is a strawman argument.



Not at all, both are extremely different situations.

Racial slur? It's not a slur. He used a hard "a", and by your logic he would have just as much of a right to go drop the "hard a" as Elizabeth Warren does to claim to be a "Native American minority Harvard Professor"

But fine, maybe not the best example. A better example would be if that Republican had changed his race to "African American" after becoming a professor at Harvard in order to be considered a "minority professor", and then trying to justify it by showing paperwork that he's around 0.1%-1% African American.

You would still call him a complete moron. But that's literally what Warren did, except she went with "Native American" instead of "African American"

Edit:

And since I think a lot of people missed this (from her results analysis) the first time I posted:

Wait... so your... "Justification" is that, despite being LESS Native American than the average American, she's "at least" more Native American than people who have barely/never made contact with Native Americans (Utah = Mormons)??

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[Wyrt]

Shes doing it right now. Because she knows Trump is going to bring it up in the debates and on the campaign trail. Shes doing this purely for political reasons to get out ahead of Trumps jokes.

So she's not allowed to prove Trump wrong? Is that what it is?

[Edge-]

Which means nothing because everyone got a bit of something strange in their ancestry.

It means she was telling the truth and this nonsense should be put to bed...but it won't be.

And not at all. "She possesses 12 times more Native American blood than a white person from Great Britain, the report found, and 10 times more than a white person from Utah."

Not to mention there are plenty of folks who can't trace any ancestry back to native americans (I can't, for example).

The point is she is no where close to being able to claim she is native american or part native american.

Her only claims are that she has native american ancestry, which this test verifies.

According to Ben Shapiro the majority of americans have a percent of a percent of Native blood in them.

And I'm sure intellectual juggernaut Ben Shapiro has evidence to support this claim?

But just because u have .00009% or w.e Native american blood doesnt mean your part native american.

It literally means that one of her ancesters 6-10 generations back was native american. That's all, and that's all she's claimed.

[solinari6]

But fine, maybe not the best example. A better example would be if that Republican had changed his race to "African American" after becoming a professor at Harvard in order to be considered a "minority professor", and then trying to justify it by showing paperwork that he's around 0.1%-1% African American.

probably not the best example, considering:

The nation's answer to the question 'Who is black?" has long been that a black is any person with any known African black ancestry. This definition reflects the long experience with slavery and later with Jim Crow segregation. In the South it became known as the "one-drop rule,'' meaning that a single drop of "black blood" makes a person a black. It is also known as the "one black ancestor rule," some courts have called it the "traceable amount rule," and anthropologists call it the "hypo-descent rule," meaning that racially mixed persons are assigned the status of the subordinate group. This definition emerged from the American South to become the nation's definition, generally accepted by whites and blacks.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...d/onedrop.html

[Edge-]

Most white Americans are 98.6% caucasian, with 1% (or less) genes from other races.

According to the study circulating in the media, Elizabeth Warren is anywhere from 1/64th to 1/1024th native american. This means she is even whiter than most white americans.

The woman is a liar. The president should either donate 1/1024th of a million dollars to her charity, or donate the full million to an actual native american charity.

https://blog.23andme.com/23andme-res...en-in-our-dna/

First link from the Imgur picture says nothing about how much native american DNA is in average white folk.

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...f-youre-white/

Second link shows that she's within the norm for average white americans (1/512, though her test indicated that she's more likely 1/256)

And there were no preconditions on "how much" native american DNA she had to have or if there was a threshold for how many generations back before it was "too little". These are all creations today in response to the fact that her DNA test supports her claim and sinks the attacks from conservatives.

[Hilhen7]

Hell we are all black if being 1/512th African American is all it takes to be considered African American

What percentage does it require to be considered white?

[SupBrah]

If you're going to lie this blatantly about every single point of fact, there's no discussion to be had with you.

The test results put her ancestry at anywhere between 1/32 and 1/512th Native American.

Literally everything you said was false.

*sniff*
WRONG

The Boston Globe, aka the origin of this report:

Correction: Due to a math error, a story about Elizabeth Warren misstated the ancestry percentage of a potential 6th to 10th generation relative. The generational range based on the ancestor that the report identified suggests she’s between 1/64th and 1/1,024th Native American.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

You couldn't even get the first line of your "rebuttal" correct? LOL you claim "literally everything" I said was false yet right on the first sentence you prove you have no idea WTF you're talking about.


Edit:

probably not the best example, considering:

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...d/onedrop.html

Wait... are you saying libs are literally trying to invoke the "One Drop" rule?? Jesus... What a timeline we live in.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Shes doing it right now. Because she knows Trump is going to bring it up in the debates and on the campaign trail. Shes doing this purely for political reasons to get out ahead of Trumps jokes.

Sounds like Trump is the one campaigning on it.

[Grapemask]

Most white Americans are 98.6% caucasian, with 1% (or less) genes from other races.

According to the study circulating in the media, Elizabeth Warren is anywhere from 1/64th to 1/1024th native american. This means she is even whiter than most white americans.

The woman is a liar. The president should either donate 1/1024th of a million dollars to her charity, or donate the full million to an actual native american charity.

A liar? Given that her only claim was that her mother told her they had native american ancestors, and this is now proven true. This must be those alternative facts, coupled with some alternative logic.

[Endus]

*sniff*
WRONG

The Boston Globe, aka the origin of this report:



https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

You couldn't even get the first line of your "rebuttal" correct? LOL you claim "literally everything" I said was false yet right on the first sentence you prove you have no idea WTF you're talking about.

I already corrected myself. This changes nothing about the overall point. You're still lying about her heritage. You've just quoted proof that you're lying. And you're so disconnected from reality you can't even see that.

[solinari6]

A liar? Given that her only claim was that her mother told her they had native american ancestors, and this is now proven true. This must be those alternative facts, coupled with some alternative logic.

Maybe Trump called her Pocahantas so many times, the the trumpsters believe that she claims she IS Pocahontas, and this test clearly proves she is NOT.

Or something like that, it's hard to think like a trumper.

[Adam Jensen]

Shes doing it right now. Because she knows Trump is going to bring it up in the debates and on the campaign trail. Shes doing this purely for political reasons to get out ahead of Trumps jokes.

Seriously?

She's pre-empting the obvious "Pocahontas" jab that Trump is inevitably going to use against her, as he's already done several times. This is a reaction to comments made against her as a hedge against any further comments from Trump and his cult.

Had Trump left this alone, this wouldn't be a thing.

[DisNagaEatinBeans]

https://blog.23andme.com/23andme-res...en-in-our-dna/

First link from the Imgur picture says nothing about how much native american DNA is in average white folk.

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2...f-youre-white/

Second link shows that she's within the norm for average white americans (1/512, though her test indicated that she's more likely 1/256)

And there were no preconditions on "how much" native american DNA she had to have or if there was a threshold for how many generations back before it was "too little". These are all creations today in response to the fact that her DNA test supports her claim and sinks the attacks from conservatives.

But it does mention that. "Among her findings were that about 3.5 percent of self-identified European Americans have at least 1 percent or more African Ancestry. It’s likely that many of these Americans, who describe themselves as white, may be unaware of their African ancestry, which in many cases goes back between five to ten generations." This coincides completely with the statement "Most white Americans are 98.6% caucasian, with 1% (or less) genes from other races."

As for Warren: given she's exactly as "native" as everybody else, I hereby declare I'm part native american too. So is the president, as well as everybody else. Everyone else is now on the exact same level as Warren (except they don't try to use it to get votes.)

Also for the record: there was a "dearth of native DNA," so they used mestizo-hispanic DNA as well. The sort of DNA that, by itself, does not qualify you for native american status anywhere.

[SupBrah]

I already corrected myself. This changes nothing about the overall point. You're still lying about her heritage. You've just quoted proof that you're lying. And you're so disconnected from reality you can't even see that.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

Me: "She's like 1/1024 Native American"
You: "LIAR!"
Me: "Here's a link to the source saying she's like 1/1024 Native American"
You: "See! You just proved your a liar"



LMAO I'm done. Thank God you can't ban people for disagreeing with you and/or pointing out how wrong you are anymore.

[Adam Jensen]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

Me: "She's like 1/1024 Native American"
You: "LIAR!"
Me: "Here's a link to the source saying she's like 1/1024 Native American"
You: "See! You just proved your a liar"



LMAO I'm done. Yeesh... Thank God you can't ban people for disagreeing with you anymore.

Does 1/64 - 1/1024 mean anything to you? How about the word "range?"

[DisNagaEatinBeans]

A liar? Given that her only claim was that her mother told her they had native american ancestors, and this is now proven true. This must be those alternative facts, coupled with some alternative logic.

Pertinent detail:

"To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American. That’s because scientists believe that the groups Americans refer to as Native American came to this land via the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago and settled in what’s now America but also migrated further south. "

In order to be considered a native american, virtually all tribes require you possess 25% native-american blood quantum. This is very specifically not hispanic blood quantum. Even if that did qualify, Warren would not because she has the same percentage as everybody else.

The woman's a fraud. Stop being such a fool.

[Xyonai]

Does 1/64 - 1/1024 mean anything to you? How about the word "range?"

You're making the grave mistake in assuming that they're debating in good faith.

Though, really, if the best line of attack against Warren that these guys have is a fuckin' Technicality then I'm sure they're going to be shocked and appalled by all the petty crap Trump's deliberately lied about while in office.

[SupBrah]

Does 1/64 - 1/1024 mean anything to you? How about the word "range?"

You know what? Fine. Let's meet in the middle at 1/256, or 0.39%, deal?