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  1. #161
    Just stop arguing with them. Its a lost cause... Remember they're the party that believes feelings are as pertinent as facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    I think you are forgetting Trump appeals to the people that believe Obama wasn't a citizen of the United States merely because a man says it. Sure its on record. Sure there is the birth certificate. But all he has to do is say fake and people say its fake because why not. It fits with the false reality they have invented to cope with the fact there way of life has mere decades left.
    And think of how much trouble they can cause in those decades.

    Especially now that we're on the tipping point for global warming.
    Putin khuliyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    And think of how much trouble they can cause in those decades.

    Especially now that we're on the tipping point for global warming.
    Not much you can do about it. They are going to fallow him no matter what anyone says or does unless you plan on killing them somehow which as temping of an offer it might be... just doesn't fit with my style.

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    The Cherokee Nation has responded to Elizabeth Warren's "proof"



    Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. It makes a mockery out of DNA tests and its legitimate uses while also dishonoring legitimate governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented and whose heritage is proven. Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage.
    LOL Man... You know this shit has blown up in Warren's face when even THE Cherokee Nation is calling her out on her BS.
    Last edited by SupBrah; 2018-10-15 at 09:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    And she has Native American roots, just like she said.

    SO, are the Trumpsters going to stop with their lies and bullshit?

    The Magic 8 Ball says, "It does not appear so."

    It's almost as if the Trumspters are working on marching orders.
    But she doesn't look Native American, so they don't care. As you can see, these are very shallow people who are only interested in appearances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupBrah View Post
    The Cherokee Nation has responded to Elizabeth Warren's "proof"
    LOL Man... You know this shit has blown up in Warren's face when even THE Cherokee Nation is calling her out on her BS.
    So she takes the test that Donald wanted her to take, but the Cherokee don't recognize that test, and that's HER fault?

    Ok...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupBrah View Post
    The Cherokee Nation has responded to Elizabeth Warren's "proof"

    LOL Man... You know this shit has blown up in Warren's face when even THE Cherokee Nation is calling her out on her BS.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_John_Baker

    Of mixed ethnicity, like many Cherokee citizens, he is 1/32 (3.1%) Cherokee by blood.
    The current chief of the Cherokee Nation has as much native blood in him as she potentially does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    The current chief of the Cherokee Nation has as much native blood in him as she potentially does.
    Twice as much, assuming the high end of her DNA results (which topped out at 1/64). Either way, its their call. If they want to criticize her for this, that's fine. Native groups are really the only groups that have much of a credible voice to say anything about this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_John_Baker



    The current chief of the Cherokee Nation has as much native blood in him as she potentially does.
    Wrong

    Ignoring that the results apparently aren't very accurate when determining NA ancestory, According to Sen Warren's "results", she is AT MOST 1/64 Native American, or AT MOST 1.56%.

    That's actually half as much as the tribal chief

  10. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by SupBrah View Post
    Wrong

    Ignoring that the results apparently aren't very accurate when determining NA ancestory, According to Sen Warren's "results", she is AT MOST 1/64 Native American, or AT MOST 1.56%.
    Serious question: Why is something so trivial, something she largely only talks about reactively in response to ongoing attacks rather than bringing up proactively, so important to you? Why is this topic so significant? Why does it seem to animate you so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Serious question: Why is something so trivial, something she largely only talks about reactively in response to ongoing attacks rather than bringing up proactively, so important to you? Why is this topic so significant? Why does it seem to animate you so much?
    Because it's literally the only thing they have to attack her over without going into policy debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SupBrah View Post
    Wrong

    Ignoring that the results apparently aren't very accurate when determining NA ancestory, According to Sen Warren's "results", she is AT MOST 1/64 Native American, or AT MOST 1.56%.

    That's actually half as much as the tribal chief
    so the best available evidence is she most likely has about half as much native american heritage as the current chief of of one of the major tribes..... sounds like she was telling the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Twice as much, assuming the high end of her DNA results (which topped out at 1/64). Either way, its their call. If they want to criticize her for this, that's fine. Native groups are really the only groups that have much of a credible voice to say anything about this topic.
    1/64 is less than 1/32.

    Quote Originally Posted by SupBrah View Post
    Wrong

    Ignoring that the results apparently aren't very accurate when determining NA ancestory, According to Sen Warren's "results", she is AT MOST 1/64 Native American, or AT MOST 1.56%.

    That's actually half as much as the tribal chief
    You might want to reread the OP....

    This puts Ms Warren as between 1/32 and 1/512 Native-American, according to the Boston Globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    1/64 is less than 1/32.
    Yes...hence why I said twice as much (in refernce to Bill John Baker's heritage) - Even if we grant her the highest end of her heritage (1/64) Baker has twice as much native DNA (1/32) as she does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    You might want to reread the OP....
    Reread the article, they made an error in their math by a factor of one and updated it to reflect the accurate range - 1/64 to 1/1024 (between 6-10 generations).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Yes...hence why I said twice as much (in refernce to Bill John Baker's heritage) - Even if we grant her the highest end of her heritage (1/64) Baker has twice as much native DNA (1/32) as she does.
    Oh, thought you meant Warren. You're right.

    Reread the article, they made an error in their math by a factor of one and updated it to reflect the accurate range - 1/64 to 1/1024 (between 6-10 generations).
    Ah.....why didn't they correct it farther down the article?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Serious question: Why is something so trivial, something she largely only talks about reactively in response to ongoing attacks rather than bringing up proactively, so important to you? Why is this topic so significant? Why does it seem to animate you so much?
    And it's not even like she did this to ask for recognition from the Cherokee tribe or whomever. She did this in an apparently vain attempt to get Donald Trump to shut the f**k up, because we all know that if she runs in 2020, he'll be calling her Pocahontas all the way to November. . . . and probably beyond.
    Putin khuliyo

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    I wish you would ignore my post, I can't recall you ever writing anything worth reading.
    This is a pretty hysterical attempt at an insult coming from someone who just admitted they post unverified crap and have no concern if anyone actually believes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    She should not have given in to those drooling morons. Nobody else gives a fuck.
    Agree - the results were going to be irrelevant anyway. Trump and his supporters will not stop the Pocahontas crap no matter how much evidence you throw in their faces. Especially when it's all they've managed to concoct so far.

  18. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    And it's not even like she did this to ask for recognition from the Cherokee tribe or whomever. She did this in an apparently vain attempt to get Donald Trump to shut the f**k up, because we all know that if she runs in 2020, he'll be calling her Pocahontas all the way to November. . . . and probably beyond.
    How long until Trump says something along the lines of: "it ought to be criminal, you know, it's really just sad," and then sparking chants of "lock her up!" from his crazy followers?

  19. #179
    Why is it important if she is Native American? What's the point?
    This whole thing is just some strange version of "I had a black girlfriend once."
    She can't even name this person, can she? For all we know someone in her family could have raped or been raped by a Cherokee Indian at one point. Nothing is more annoying than people and their bull shit heritage that's only said to look cool, like heritage is some kind of dick measuring booster.

  20. #180
    Well, she got played.

    1. Safe money was on them never paying up.
    2. Now they can easily make it look like she's doing this for herself.

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