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  1. #81
    Antifucks in this thread are just butthurt they're getting BTFO by a group appropriating their culture and doing it better. Call for bashing the fash and get bashed, it's poetic.

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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubaal View Post
    So a group of far left nut jobs and a group of far right nut jobs are in physical conflicts? Not going to lie, Im suddenly interested.
    Why are anti white supremacists nutjobs ?

    Are you not anti white supremacist too?

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Antifucks in this thread are just butthurt they're getting BTFO by a group appropriating their culture and doing it better. Call for bashing the fash and get bashed, it's poetic.
    You're an moron, but thanks for your thoughts on the matter.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    You're an moron, but thanks for your thoughts on the matter.
    Fucking poetic.

  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by dayne87 View Post
    People saying Antifa does exist are not understanding the point.

    The point is Antifa doesn't exist any more than anarchists exist as a political party. We don't have the "anarchist party." We don't have leaders of the anarchy party giving people direction. By the same token, people can be anti-fascist (what Antifa stands for) just like people can be anarchists.

    So while yes, there are sometimes anti-fascists facing off against fascists/racists, they are just counter-protestors and not part of some mega-group called Antifa. Contrast that to these Proud Boys, which ARE an organization.

    As for these riots and stuff...I feel like counter-protesters to these fascist protests need to resort to the non-violent approaches MLK JR and others took in the 1950s and 60s. Stand there in solidarity with signs or maybe say counter protesting words loudly but do NOT under any circumstances resort to violence. If the Proud Boys want to attack you (like the police did in the 50s and 60s with water hoses, dogs, etc. to the civil rights protesters) then let them and let the police arrest them. By counter-protesters attacking the Proud Boys they're giving them legitimacy.

    I haven't really seen these counter-protests, but my guess is some ARE there to be peaceful, and then it gets hijacked by anarchists in their midst who want to take it further than peacefully counter-protesting. Those anarchists should face justice, but again, don't say that they are part of Antifa as if it were an organized group.
    You're a brave fucking man telling others to take one on the chin for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Fucking poetic.
    Even with massive poetic licence, you're still a moron.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Antifucks in this thread are just butthurt they're getting BTFO by a group appropriating their culture and doing it better. Call for bashing the fash and get bashed, it's poetic.
    Because white supremacist groups are so peaceful and have a great history in the United States. /S

    The KKK and the Proud boys don't deserve any sympathy, wouldn't mind seeing the groups being disbanded and gone for good.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Well, at least you're honest about not caring that fascism is growing stronger.
    I couldnt care less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    Why are anti white supremacists nutjobs ?

    Are you not anti white supremacist too?
    I dont have time to put people in special groups nor do I care to, both sides are nut jobs. I just want to see both sides dropped in the center of Yankee Stadium and let them resolve their precious issues in an old school Roman manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kubaal View Post
    I couldnt care less.

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    I dont have time to put people in special groups nor do I care to, both sides are nut jobs. I just want to see both sides dropped in the center of Yankee Stadium and let them resolve their precious issues in an old school Roman manner.
    With a Roman salute?

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    With a Roman salute?
    Which ever way resolves the constant pissing and moaning.

  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kubaal View Post
    So a group of far left nut jobs and a group of far right nut jobs are in physical conflicts? Not going to lie, Im suddenly interested.
    Yeah its funny. They are basically just two different hooligan groups.
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  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Daelak View Post
    Arresting the proud boys and cracking down on right wing groups' ability to disseminate their bullshit and anti-fa will go away as well.
    No antifa won't magically go away. It will go a long way in stemming the incidents in public and cut numbers in both groups. The hardcore types will remain and we have prison cells for them.

  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    No antifa won't magically go away. It will go a long way in stemming the incidents in public and cut numbers in both groups. The hardcore types will remain and we have prison cells for them.
    Basically what happened to the KKK. You still get a sitting of bad incidents here and there, but at lest we don't have to deal with lynching and murder on a monthly basis.

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    So when this escalates to guns, bombs, terrorism and people caught in the crossfire, I am sure people will reflect on things like this eventually. At least Alt-Right stopped pretending they didn't instigate this.
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  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    probably the group that stomped those guys that they had on the ground already.

    but the fighting started when antifa both hit a guy with a bottle and beat and robbed someone.
    You have any evidence for this? If there was such as crime, how do you know it was "antifa" and not a random person or one of the Proud Boys?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stelio Kontos View Post
    Apparently it's all a part of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy™
    Why do you believe it's a conspiracy? Is there any fact presented here that you don't accept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i'm not defending them.

    but it's almost always antifa that starts the fighting.
    There's no evidence for this, there's not even any evidence that "antifa" was present at these events. This is the excuse that the Proud Boys use to obscure the fact that they advocate political violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    The current paradigm began with Antifa showing up armed with melee weapons and beating up unarmed people who were attempting to attend events like Ben Shapiro giving a speech at Berkeley. Repeatedly there were images of massive groups of Antifa just chasing people down and beating them, often with police simply standing there and watching due to stand down orders from the local government. Eventually, the anti-Antifa emerged, with people showing up with homemade shields, body armor and sticks/clubs, and then these people started to organize and engage in pitched street combat with Antifa.

    I would say that the internet helped to add fuel to this fire by spreading early footage of Antifa just running completely unopposed.
    Do you have a source for this? It seems me like any time the Proud Boys are involved in violence, they claim "antifa" was there but provide no evidence.

  15. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    Yeah its funny. They are basically just two different hooligan groups.
    Yeah its funny how one group wants to kill ethnic minorities and the other group oppose that.

    Funny as fuck.

  16. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by BFA is worse than WoD View Post
    It's funny how many people are afraid of the antifa boogeyman...do these people ever stop to think, "Hmmm...who is the leader of antifa? Where is their headquarters?" We can tell you the leader and HQ for Proud Boys, KKK and pretty much every major violent right wing group. Can't say that about antifa because ANTIFA DOES NOT EXIST lol. To dumbo conservatives anyone who pushes back violently against having their rights taken away is "antifa." It's stupid. It should be common sense but again it just shows how much our education system failed. Look at the posters around here that get all riled up and spam the board with antifa articles. They're generally barely literate and can't formulate an argument other than "make librul snowflake mad kekekekekeke."

    I'm going to make it easy for trumpanzees to understand:

    Cause: You want to take away the rights of women and homosexuals. You want to tell women they can't have abortions (or their access needs to be heavily restricted), which is taking freedom of their own body and their own personal independence away. You want to tell homosexuals they can't have the same legal benefits as straight people, which is taking away their freedom to live as nature directs them without being heavily punished. You want to tell minorities that their problems are fake, yet the data does not lie and the reality is most minorities don't feel as if they're treated fairly by the system that they pay taxes into just as much as you.

    Effect: People get violent because they don't want old white men policing them in the bedroom. They don't want old white men to have more control of their body than they have. They don't want to pay taxes into a system that FACTUALLY outputs far less for minorities and treats people far better the lighter their skin complexion is.

    Is it really that hard to understand? As much as people want peaceful protest to work, you're not going to have peaceful protest when you feel like your freedoms are already being stripped away. How would you react if your freedoms were being taken away? Would you stand around with a sign to protest the government inhibiting your ability to fap by censoring the internet or restricting access? Probably not, based on principle alone you'd probably want to get violent as you'd feel your own personal freedoms are being stripped away.
    Here's the problem though. The idealist leftism possessed by many 20 and under, never held a job, people doesn't work. All those examples you just listed do not work in a vacuum. In case you haven't noticed, the birthrate of white children in the US and Europe is tanking, meanwhile Arabic and Hispanic cultures are going through the roof. This is intended, as white people are deemed evil by the left and they want everyone to be a shade of mocha brown here in a couple generations (see that ad with the 1/3rd black chick with blue eyes). It's called multiculturalism.

    Problem is, technological and cultural advancement doesn't come from an equal distribution across the world. There are some cultures that lead, some cultures that follow, and, some cultures that never made it past inventing The Stick, let alone The Wheel, before they got co-opted. There's a reason the third world is the third world. I mean, Africa is a huge continent, and most countries in it are impoverished, dominated by warlords, and contribute really nothing to the world. Native African black people are in the process of turning South Africa into hell as we speak, taking white natives' farms, and raping the women, then killing everyone, and the world turns a blind eye. I know a good amount of Africans (Kenyans, Malawians, Ghanians, Guineans, and a few from Sierra Leone), and, to a man, they and their families GTFOed as soon as they could. Meanwhile, no African American, despite how fervently he protests how crappy the USA treats him, would ever emigrate to an African country because of how bad it is.

    So, to the point, the reason people protest gay rights, or pro choice, or whatever, is because any liberal policy can be described as "I am the most important person in the universe, fuck this culture, it's all about me." The single most important thing a woman can do is make a child. There is no one else, other than women, who can make a child. Men can contribute sperm, and help start, but it is on women to keep the species going. If we lose white people, we lose 90% of our tech and 80% of our culture. Anything we put into our culture like abortion, or encouraging being gay, or divorce, or 30 years of being on the pill, or encouraging women to delay having children until the "high risk pregnancy age" ANY of that, hurts our culture bad.

    A liberal cannot understand that there are things greater than themselves in the world, and that is what the right fights for.
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  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Huulo View Post
    https://www.vox.com/2018/10/15/17978...n-gop-violence

    There's been a lot of discussion here lately about right-wing groups like the Proud Boys and there supposed battles with "antifa." If you do a little research, a couple things become clear.

    Groups like the Proud Boys stand out from other alt-right groups in that they advocate political violence. There group's founder, Gavin McInnes, has directly called for violence to solve political problems. Not only has he praised the assassination of politicians, he's gone so far to publicly re-enact the murder of a Japanese socialist with other members of the Proud Boys group. They speak about the necessity of political violence frequently. It is their primary tenet.

    To deflect criticism over their use of violence, the Proud Boys often argue that the violence was started by "antifa." There's a problem with that: antifa doesn't exist, not as any kind of political group. Proud Boys and similar groups simply describe anyone they get in a fight with as antifa. The pattern goes like this: they go out in large groups, consume alcohol, look for fights, shout loud and provocative things (including hatred for minorities such as Muslims and Jews). Eventually the attack someone or someone attacks them. Later they tell the press they were attacked by "antifa." This has led to a lot of confusion, including reports that make it sound like two separate groups, the Proud Boys and antifa, are at war with each other. The victim-hood narrative is so important to the Proud Boys that they've created fake social media accounts in which they pretend to be antifa to send threatening messages. There's a reason why there's no prominent member of antifa to point to or interview. There are occasionally counter-protesters, but the idea that they're part of a single entity called antifa is a delusion. In reality, all we have here is an angry, violent gang that goes out looking for fights.
    Anyone person advocates political violence is a domestic terrorist


    Ever notice how "antifa" didn't appear to attack Tea Party rallies, or Trump rallies, or never got mentioned apart from these very specific groups? It is because these groups were created to seek out violence, and they need the myth of antifa so they can claim that videos of them beating up people somehow represent self-defense.
    Black-clad antifa members attack peaceful right-wing demonstrators in Berkeley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    Fucking poetic.
    LOL indeed, think won that round.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Zubacz View Post
    This is fake news. I dare you to provide even 1 first hand proof of anything you've written.
    I'd rather just prove all of it right now:

    https://www.vox.com/2018/10/15/17978...n-gop-violence

    https://me.me/i/1960-otoya-yamaguchi...unism-18781623

    So Gavin McInnes praised the assassination of a Japanese politician to the point where he stage a re-enactment of it at a Proud Boy event while swinging a katana at counter-protesters.

    He's attacked Muslims and Jews repeatedly on Twitter:

    “the Muslim world is filled with shoeless, toothless, inbred, hill-dwelling, rifle-toting, sodomy-prone men”) and an embrace of anti-Semitism and anti-Israel sentiments, including a video he made for the far-right Canadian outlet Rebel Media initially called “10 Things I Hate about Jews” (or as he would later tweet, “10 THINGS I HATE ABOUT THE GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING JEWS!”). He’s also argued that historically, perhaps Jews “were ostracized for a good reason.”

    He's also claimed that Jews killed millions of people in Ukraine.

    He's called violence "a really effective way to solve problems."

    Over and over again, there rhetoric emphasizes the need for violent solutions, as demonstrated in the sources I provided.

    There's video evidence of the Proud Boys attacking counter-protesters.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/far-ri...le-in-new-york

    There are testimonials from non-violent protesters who describe the Proud Boy's tactics of encircling individuals and punching them from behind.

    The only thing that isn't proven is that antifa wasn't at any of these events. This is because it's difficult to prove a negative, but at New York for example there's no evidence that any of the counter-protesters were "antifa" other than the Proud Boys calling them "antifa."

    In some cases, it may be that an individual counter-protester attacked one of the Proud Boys first, and then the Proud Boys used this as an excuse to attack unrelated innocent people by calling them "antifa"

    The good news is that authorities are investigating 9 individuals in the Proud Boys for starting these fights. The bad news is that they weren't arrested immediately following their crimes when they were clearly guilty, likely because the police were out-numbered.

    At this point, you would have to be blind to think the Proud Boys aren't a violent extremist organization. Anyone who really cares about removing violence from politics should oppose them.

    Fun fact: at Charlottesville similar alt-right groups were calling everyone who marched against them "communists." People immediately realized how absurd this was and it didn't catch on, so they switched to just calling them "antifa".

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Anyone person advocates political violence is a domestic terrorist

    That would make Gavin McInnes and many members of the Proud Boys domestic terrorists.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Kodaline View Post
    Here's the problem though. The idealist leftism possessed by many 20 and under, never held a job, people doesn't work. All those examples you just listed do not work in a vacuum. In case you haven't noticed, the birthrate of white children in the US and Europe is tanking, meanwhile Arabic and Hispanic cultures are going through the roof. This is intended, as white people are deemed evil by the left and they want everyone to be a shade of mocha brown here in a couple generations (see that ad with the 1/3rd black chick with blue eyes). It's called multiculturalism.
    Your not making any sense. How is it anyone's fault if the birthrate of white children are tanking except for white people?

    No one can force you to have children that are "a shade of mocha brown"....
    (Hey even Prince Harry married a mixed woman, OMG he was forced!?)
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  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    No antifa won't magically go away. It will go a long way in stemming the incidents in public and cut numbers in both groups. The hardcore types will remain and we have prison cells for them.
    Antifa's numbers are already basically at zero. The confusion lies in the fact that the Proud Boys call anyone who disagrees with them or counter-protests then "antifa."

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