Forsaken=Scourge 2.0?

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Now I know you're just trolling...or stupid...or both, I haven't decided yet. No one who has actually been playing the game would be able to honeatly say that and keep a straight face. So all humans are the same? All orcs are the same? All dwarves are the same? All trolls are the same? All elves are the same? Gee I wonder where all these rebellions and wars and neutral factions have come from over the past 14 years? Makes you wonder doesn't it...

The character diversity ends at races. Blizzard managed to write all race unique and different and good in their way, but that's about where it ends. Can you honestly say Cairne, Baine, Sunwalker Dezco, Lasan Skyhorn are four unique and different characters? Or do they all just act like... tauren?


If blizzards decides forsaken are evil then forsaken are evil. It's not up to debate, it's not "not all forsaken!".
And blizzard decided this long ago, back in wrath/cata where they made all their quests evil.

[Darth-Piekus]

In all seriousness though. Sylvannas has to be removed if the Forsaken have any chance to be changed to something good for once cause it's obvious as long as Sylvannas lives they are never gonna change.

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Nope. Forsaken are individuals, with independent thoughts. They can be evil or good (depending on your PoV).

[omeomorfismo]

The Forsaken are a twisted mockery, things that shouldn't exist, and indeed they cannot even reproduce (even Worgen can), because they were never meant to exist. They are a mistake, and even Garrosh, that warmonger, realized that they go against the very laws of nature.

Azeroth is the world of the living. The dead have no place there. And this will never change.

technically even worgen couldnt reproduce until they curse someone. the "natural" offspring of 2 worgens are human/nelf.
basically both worgen and forsaken reproduce in the same way.
ironically they even using opposite forces, the first cursing with nature, the second ressurecting with necromancy.

[Zandalariprelate]

technically even worgen couldnt reproduce until they curse someone. the "natural" offspring of 2 worgens are human/nelf.
basically both worgen and forsaken reproduce in the same way.
ironically they even using opposite forces, the first cursing with nature, the second ressurecting with necromancy.

They were planned to be the "forsakens" of the alliance aka the evil token guy and Genn actually fit on that but alas, that never happened after Stormheim

[sillag]

I don't think so. You could argue the government of the Forsaken is evil (e.g. Sylvanas, Nathanos, the Deathguard, and the Deathstalkers), but this discounts the notion that the populace of the Forsaken is varied. "Before the Storm" itself puts the more human face of the Forsaken into pretty stark relief - individuals such as Elsie/Vellcinda Benton, the Felstone brothers, Annie Lansing, Tomas Gray, and Parqual Fintallas show that the Forsaken are not all to a one evil people. A government is not exactly the best representative of its people, especially not when the government in question is itself an absolute monarchy headed by an undead, immortal queen.

the forsaken is a totalitarian regime led by a dictator for life who punishes disobedience with instantaneous execution without trial. YES, the government does represent the nation in this instance.

[Maxilian]

Individuals from that particular race tend to use the plague more than others.

What makes then "more evil" than others is not the plague, that's just a weapon, as bad as burning people alive, or dropping a mana bomb on their city

[omeomorfismo]

If inhumanity isn't evil, then what is?

That's like saying "torturing someone to death isn't evil, it's just inhumane".

ironically you just described turalyon and basically large part of human paladins xD

[Severn]

This thread is so Cataclysm era.

Individuals from that particular race tend to use the plague more than others.

Because only individuals of that particular race know biochemistry.

[Verdugo]

In all seriousness though. Sylvannas has to be removed if the Forsaken have any chance to be changed to something good for once cause it's obvious as long as Sylvannas lives they are never gonna change.

Question is, why should they be changed into something you would consider "good". Is it because you play Alliance and want everything else to become boring like your precious humans?

[Darth-Piekus]

Question is, why should they be changed into something you would consider "good". Is it because you play Alliance and want everything else to become boring like your precious humans?

Because at this point they've become a mockery of Arthas and the Scourge. Someone who pretends to be a villain and escapes all consequences is literally boring. Arthas was consistent and interesting. Sylvannas isn't anymore unless you count her small fanbase.

[Guildenstern]

Sylvannas isn't anymore unless you count her small fanbase.

I lol'd hard on this one.

Also, please don't ever change us, Forsaken. If you want goody to shoes, go play Alliance or Tauren or something

[Darth-Piekus]

As the Forsaken are at the moment are boring. They are mockery of Arthas and his Scourge.

[omeomorfismo]

Because at this point they've become a mockery of Arthas and the Scourge. Someone who pretends to be a villain and escapes all consequences is literally boring. Arthas was consistent and interesting. Sylvannas isn't anymore unless you count her small fanbase.

they are in war with humans since wrath, what re you saying?

[Darth-Piekus]

Actually they were more interesting when they were trying to find a way to cure themselves, wanting revenge against Arthas and actually having Free Will. Blizzard tried to do something different than all the other companies when they portraited the usual undead and that made them interesting. Now they are a bad version of the Scourge. Unoriginal and boring.

You are free to like them if you want but personally I find them boring.

[Kherneas]

The average forsaken is the worst person you know, the "why does everyone hate me" kid that everyone definitely hates because he's an edgy shit who also snot rockets at people and tortures small animals during recess.