Oct 23 Hotfixes, Patch 8.1 - Azerite Armor Targeting, Conquest Rewards, Raid Testing

[Jinzuru]

Okay, this change to adding azerite shards or whatever to eventually buy good azerite armor reminds me of marks of valor or whatever they were (valor and justice) back in BC/Wrath and maybe other expansions too. But the difference is that back then you could do normal/heroic dungeons to earn small amounts of said currency with a long-term goal of buying a high ilvl piece of gear.

Now, as a casual player who doesn't do Mythic+ or raid beyond LFR it sounds like, unless they let gear obtained from Warfronts/LFR be scrapped for the currency, I won't be able to buy any of that gear.
And many would argue that I shouldn't be able to buy. Why do I have need for that type of high ilvl gear if I"m only doing normal/heroic dungeons, expeditions and warfronts and LFR? well, because I too want to feel more powerful as the expansion goes on.

Anyway, the point is that this change probably won't affect me but I do feel for the Mythic+ folks who probably feel like they're on a loot treadmill.

Well after all this stuff goes live, you'll be able to scrap any epic quality azerite you get. So emissary cache, warfront, possibly world boss and LFR azerite/Mythic 0.

[Mr Biscuit]

The system is a decent start but it absolutely needs to be tuned down. We should be able to get a specific piece in 3 weeks, not two months. That was typically the Valor pace and it was reasonable.

[shaunika123]

So you are complaining precautionary just in case you are right with your "3 month forecast"?

I didnt make a forecast, I was asking what the source for that is.

and said that if it is indeed true, then the whole thing is pointless.

getting an item 3 months too late is pointless

[fishoa]

pay 3 times as much for what you want because blizzard can't stop designing systems with rng

lmao

[Smeller]

This will basicly mean if you only want to play M+ and you dont like PvP or Raids you will never be able to biuld a set of many azerite pieces to swap inbetween... You know what this whole boring uninspiring system was biult around.

If you only want to play M+ and are able to do M+10 every week why do you need a full set of BiS-gear?

[OhanaMage]

BfA is beyond salvage at this point
People who will want to aim 385 gear are mostly raiders / hardcore players, by the time they'll get 2 specific 385 items the 385ilvl will be irrelevant with
the new 420ilvl raid gear that will be out by then.
Blizzard are specialists in putting nice ilvl gear at a vendore that you can aim for but by the time you will actually get it it will be useless
just like they did with the gear you get when you're exalted with BfA factions: 355ilvl when you're already should be well above 360 (unless you're 100% casual).

[Deleted]

Good thing I already sold 20 azerite armor pieces last week to clean up and now I can disenchant them for currency... welp blizz

You can't disenchant the current ones, only the new ones when it's implemented so don't worry

[Wildpantz]

2-3weeks when you only get from weekly cache. Also more items if you do higher keys also scraping

[kathvely]

Raid drop of Azerite gear....
/w "Hey, do you need that Azerite item?"
/w "No, but I need to destroy it and many more in order to target another Azerite item."

[Eleriol]

If you only want to play M+ and are able to do M+10 every week why do you need a full set of BiS-gear?

Why would anyone want BiS gear ever? Most of us grind for loot for the satisfaction of seeing your character getting stronger or maybe your intrested in pushing higher then +10 then you absolutely will need the best loot you can get.

[c1v1d]

Raid drop of Azerite gear....
/w "Hey, do you need that Azerite item?"
/w "No, but I need to destroy it and many more in order to target another Azerite item."

I didn't think about this...fuck me now it's even worst than I thought it was. Yikes.

[Malfecto]

2-3weeks when you only get from weekly cache. Also more items if you do higher keys also scraping

Except that you won't get Azerite from weekly cache after this change and M+ keys don't drop azerite armor. Your sources for this will be Emmisary cache drops, raid drops, and however many M0 you can stomach for drops. Your big chunks will only come from raid or emmi and only if you don't need them and you are already farming up at 370 from cache.

[Zoldor]

What is the point in the 355 and 370 options? Random, lower ilvl, ilvl that can be obtained through emissary and by the time this all shows up there will be a new raid where LFR drops 355ish, normal 370 etc? I don't actually see the point in the random 355 and 370 pieces.

[ashblond]

Removing Azerite gear will be the best thing to BFA at this moment, although Blizzard will never do that.

[keyboardshinobi]

I wonder, will this do like Caverns and turn the opposing faction into races of the other faction during the flashback fights?

[Deleted]

there's a difference between a reasonable amount of a time and an unreasonable amount of time. They're just making your play more by spacing things out such an extreme amount.

And a couple of months (which is a number you pulled from your behind, we simply don't know that) is a "unreasonable amount of time"?! And "they're just making you play more"? Wtf? The game is WAY WAY easier to get gear nowadays when compared to most of the game past interactions... a couple of months was the normal time you had to endure in Vanilla to get a single epic on a raid and raiding 3-4 times a week... So how come they are just making you play more now, if now we have the easiest time to gear out from the 14 years the game has?!

People just like to complain...

[Alcsaar]

Heaven forbid your perfect piece takes TIME to achieve.

A major amount of time to achieve a specific piece of gear that will be below the item level of the next heroic/mythic tier of raid gear. Meh. Pretty awful.

how do you know? all it shows is the cost, it doesnt show how much you get from stuff.

genuinely curious.


if it takes you 3 months it's quite literally pointless since by the time you get it it's obsolete.

They said in their first announcement that they are balancing the amount of points you get around it taking 2 to 3 weeks to get a "random" piece of gear cache. By that logic, and only if you're doing mythic 10+s, you can expect to get a specific piece of gear after a minimum of 6 weeks at the very best, and more likely around 8 to 10 weeks. Considerably longer if you're only a "casual" mythic+ player (5-9)

2+ months to get a piece of gear at item level 385 in 8.1 is going to be pretty awful.

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A major amount of time to achieve a specific piece of gear that will be below the item level of the next heroic/mythic tier of raid gear. Meh. Pretty awful.




They said in their first announcement that they are balancing the amount of points you get around it taking 2 to 3 weeks to get a "random" piece of gear cache. By that logic, and only if you're doing mythic 10+s, you can expect to get a specific piece of gear after a minimum of 6 weeks at the very best, and more likely around 8 to 10 weeks. Considerably longer if you're only a "casual" mythic+ player (5-9)

2+ months to get a piece of gear at item level 385 in 8.1 is going to be pretty awful.

You're comparing Vanilla but in Vanilla a piece of end game gear lasted longer than 3 months. Hell, some if it was best in slot for years.

[Myci]

Classic blizz. Get everyone hyped by a supposed "fix". Everyone saying this is a move in the right direction is just flat out wrong. Now you can DE 10 shitty pieces to eventually gamble for another shitty piece! Meanwhile the 10 useless 370 pieces in my bag are still replaced by a 340 piece with better traits. Only 2/4 traits on that piece I actually want now.
The literally just doubled down on their shitty system while telling everyone they are fixing it. I love azerite traits. They should be more interchangeable like relics or gems. The way they implemented it is shitty and nothing but a half ass time sink.

[Smeller]

Why would anyone want BiS gear ever? Most of us grind for loot for the satisfaction of seeing your character getting stronger or maybe your intrested in pushing higher then +10 then you absolutely will need the best loot you can get.

If you don't need BiS-Gear, you'll have the highest ilvl of Azerite gear in 6-9 weeks.

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What is the point in the 355 and 370 options? Random, lower ilvl, ilvl that can be obtained through emissary and by the time this all shows up there will be a new raid where LFR drops 355ish, normal 370 etc? I don't actually see the point in the random 355 and 370 pieces.

Maybe it is more beneficial to you going for an ilvl that's one tier below the highest. They said +10 will give you 3 times the currency +7 gives you. So you should be able to get 370 gear way faster than 385 which means you could go for your BiS and actually get it midtier.

[MrExcelion]

Mythic Plus Azerite Armor Vendor Now on PTR
Thaumaturge Vashreen is now on the PTR and selling Mythic Plus Azerite Armor caches and specific pieces for the new currency, Azerite Impurity. While we don't know the amount of Azerite Impurity rewarded from your mythic plus cache or breaking down pieces, we do know the costs on the vendor.
@chaud is it possible to copy a toon and then scrap or de an azerite piece?

cant really test because i dont have the 50gb of hdd space