Is Don Lemon right about who are the biggest terror threat to this country?

[Deleted]

I think this Lemon guy is doing Trump a BIG favour by saying this just before the elections.

[Themius]

The reality is that most terrorism in the US is done by white people. Sorry if this bursts your bubble, and you are entitled to your own opinions on this matter, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

There is even a nice report that shows the facts - https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/683984.pdf

Go ahead and jump down to Appendix II...you will see that the majority of the list are white people.

It’s funny because this is how you use stats. You show the stats say note this and then ask the question why without jumping to saying all whites are bad and therefore we all need to be scared of whites.

Compare that in contrast to what happens with black Americans where posters here instantly approve of prejudging all blacks due to stats and you see the difference.

Whites are allowed to pass judgements without asking questions to get down to the answer.

And no one is allowed to even ask a question about white crime even when no judgement is passed.

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

So are we not to talk about Muslim terrorist? We can talk about terrorist growing out of say Iraq without also being racist towards Iraq. Simply acknowledging there is a terrorist problem from a specific group isn’t tantamount to also passing judgements in the entire group.

i wouldn't be opposed to throwing the KKK and the skinheads into the same group of terrorists as isis and all those guys. as long as we can start considering the crips, bloods, ms13, the mafia, and everyone else in the same manner.

they all spread terror.

but he said we have a "white men problem" or whatever. that's horseshit.

what we have is a crazy problem. the entertainment industry glorifies the type of lifestyle lived by the aforementioned groups. we need to find out why, from a mentality point of view, it's so easy for a country bumkin or a kid from the hood to pick up and weapon and kill people.

[steristumpie]

http://https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2018/02/02/cnn-anchor-don-lemons-sister-leisa-dies-at-58-after-drowning/23351255/

Kek.

Don Lemon’s sister is a better anchor than him.

Infracted

[Machismo]

i wouldn't be opposed to throwing the KKK and the skinheads into the same group of terrorists as isis and all those guys. as long as we can start considering the crips, bloods, ms13, the mafia, and everyone else in the same manner.

they all spread terror.

but he said we have a "white men problem" or whatever. that's horseshit.

what we have is a crazy problem. the entertainment industry glorifies the type of lifestyle lived by the aforementioned groups. we need to find out why, from a mentality point of view, it's so easy for a country bumkin or a kid from the hood to pick up and weapon and kill people.

What about the Trump administration, that helps promote such behavior? Are you willing to also call them out?

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

What about the Trump administration, that helps promote such behavior? Are you willing to also call them out?

absolutely. i'm a real republican. the type that wants to get back to focusing on our budgeting and strong military, not the he said she said BS.

Donald Trump gets shit done, but i do not approve of how he goes about doing it at all

[Malaky]

So you've admitted it is a Muslim ban. There's absolutely no provision about it that makes it temporary, other than that any law can be temporary if a future government reverses it.

My god, you're so utterly and completely dishonest. "So you've admitted" ...what the heck? Admitted? It's a travel ban from a number of extremist muslim countries, that's the whole point! What did you think were we talking about? Those countries are known dangerous islamic zones and their ability to enter the US is being restricted.
It's the whole purpose. If the world had a number of countries in which "white extremist terrorism" runs rampant like it does there they'd be restricted as well. The fact that they're muslims doesn't grant them exception from anti-terrorism measures like this one. It's what you do, not what you are.

It was also clearly, very clearly stated by the government to be a temporary provision in order to buy time to find a more efficient solution, it was a huge point of contention... but since it doesn't fit your narrative of unjust oppression you're willfully ignoring everything that doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm done with you.

[Machismo]

absolutely. i'm a real republican. the type that wants to get back to focusing on our budgeting and strong military, not the he said she said BS.

Donald Trump gets shit done, but i do not approve of how he goes about doing it at all

Sure, he gets shit done, and it's largely bad for things like budgeting. Our spending, debt, deficit, and inflation are all on the rise. Let's not even get into his tariffs, and anti-catpitalistic attacks on companies. Heck, we could also discuss his utter contempt for the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 10th, and 14th Amendments...

Something tells me you will still be voting for him in two years.

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My god, you're so utterly and completely dishonest. "So you've admitted" ...what the heck? Admitted? It's a travel ban from a number of extremist muslim countries, that's the whole point! What did you think were we talking about? Those countries are known dangerous islamic zones and their ability to enter the US is being restricted.
It's the whole purpose. If the world had a number of countries in which "white extremist terrorism" runs rampant like it does there they'd be restricted as well. The fact that they're muslims doesn't grant them exception from anti-terrorism measures like this one. It's what you do, not what you are.

It was also clearly, very clearly stated by the government to be a temporary provision in order to buy time to find a more efficient solution, it was a huge point of contention... but since it doesn't fit your narrative of unjust oppression you're willfully ignoring everything that doesn't fit the narrative.

I'm done with you.

And yet, that deadline has long since passed. It's almost as if Trump is pushing the Muslim ban he called for...

[Vash The Stampede]

How is it that 28% of people voted yes? Seriously, isn't this the most racist shit aired on TV yet? Don needs to get fired off CNN. What does it take to get someone fired for white hatred on mainstream media? Does Don have to call white people "as white as the whitest cracker on the brightest day"?

I voted for Hilary last election but this time around I might just go for Trump just to piss off CNN. You want Trump? Cause this is how you give Trump another term. This crap makes Alex Jones look less crazy.

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

Something tells me you will still be voting for him in two years.

if the democrats put up reasonable, moderate person I'm in. i think a lot of people would be.

if they put up another bernie or hillary be prepared for 12 more years of a Trump. 4 for donald, 8 for ivanka. then 8 for donny jr, 8 for eric. after all that Baron will be ready to run the country....

THIS IS NEVER GOING TO END IS IT?

[Deleted]

It's statements like this that push more voters to the right

No, ignorance is what drives voters to the right.

It's a fairly known fact, that the overly dominant majority of gun deaths or mass shootings were carried out by white people.

Statistics show that over the last 3 decades, 60% of all shootings were committed by white people, and the second group are black people at 17%.

So yes, there's a terror threat on the white side of the population and it's probably more important to worry about than the random Islam attack you get every 2 years, vs the 20 mass shootings you get every calendar year.

[Vash The Stampede]

if the democrats put up reasonable, moderate person I'm in. i think a lot of people would be.

if they put up another bernie or hillary be prepared for 12 more years of a Trump. 4 for donald, 8 for ivanka. then 8 for donny jr, 8 for eric. after all that Baron will be ready to run the country....

THIS IS NEVER GOING TO END IS IT?

Bernie was far more popular than Hillary. If Bernie ran for president then we wouldn't have Trump. The youth really resonated with him. It would be a mistake to not have Bernie or a Bernie like candidate run against Trump.

[Machismo]

if the democrats put up reasonable, moderate person I'm in. i think a lot of people would be.

if they put up another bernie or hillary be prepared for 12 more years of a Trump. 4 for donald, 8 for ivanka. then 8 for donny jr, 8 for eric. after all that Baron will be ready to run the country....

THIS IS NEVER GOING TO END IS IT?

Well, not if Trumspters continue to be ignorant fools. You claimed it was about budgeting, yet Trump is objectively worse than even Obama.... who was downright terrible. Like I said, Trumpsters claim to support one thing, but at the end of the day, they don't really mean it.

[Vash The Stampede]

No, ignorance is what drives voters to the right.

It's a fairly known fact, that the overly dominant majority of gun deaths or mass shootings were carried out by white people.

Statistics show that over the last 3 decades, 60% of all shootings were committed by white people, and the second group are black people at 17%.

So yes, there's a terror threat on the white side of the population and it's probably more important to worry about than the random Islam attack you get every 2 years, vs the 20 mass shootings you get every calendar year.

Mass shootings by white people... sure. Homicides though are overwhelming not white people. It's like saying a car is reliable cause the engine is reliable, but you ignore the rest of the car.

https://www.acsh.org/news/2017/08/10...-average-11680

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

Bernie was far more popular than Hillary. If Bernie ran for president then we wouldn't have Trump. The youth really resonated with him. It would be a mistake to not have Bernie or a Bernie like candidate run against Trump.

i wouldn't go that far. bernie scared a lot of people (trump people) with his socialism talk

i do think bernie would have done better than hillary though.

guess we'll never know

[Kathandira]

She was making a dig at the reporter who mixed them up is what I think. Joke in poor taste, but I don't think she's racist.

I dunno, she is on record calling young black men super predators. All I do know, is I don't trust her at all.

[Nfinitii]

He's not demonizing white people. He's pointing out how ridiculous a ban on white people would be, to show how ridiculous the ban on Muslims is.

That would be believable if the narrative for years hasn’t been if ur a white male ur a privelage pos that seeks to control and bring everyone down around u.

[Huulo]

It was also clearly, very clearly stated by the government to be a temporary provision in order to buy time to find a more efficient solution, it was a huge point of contention... but since it doesn't fit your narrative of unjust oppression you're willfully ignoring everything that doesn't fit the narrative.

There's no reason to believe it's temporary. Calling it temporary is essentially meaningless. Any law can be temporary if a future government changes it, so thinking that describing the law as temporary changes it in any meaningful way is naive.

Suppose I banned ketchup and stated "very, very clearly" that it was temporary, with no set time to expire. It could last for 10 years, 100, or 1000, or whenever a new government changes it, making it not temporary in any meaningful way.

I prefer a legal system that judges and punishes people based on their individual actions. You prefer one which does so based on their religious and ethnic backgrounds, at least in part. I'm simply pointing out the difference between us.

And honestly, lumping in a giant portion of the world as "extremist Muslim zones" is as ignorant as saying that America is a dangerous extremist zone because of the bombings and school shootings. Have you ever been to any of these places? Do you know anything about them?

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That would be believable if the narrative for years hasn’t been if ur a white male ur a privelage pos that seeks to control and bring everyone down around u.

I think that's just a narrative in your mind.

[Themius]

I dunno, she is on record calling young black men super predators. All I do know, is I don't trust her at all.

She did but opinions can changed and that policy was absolutely race based for sure.

[Kathandira]

She did but opinions can changed and that policy was absolutely race based for sure.

That's something I think many people have a hard time with, myself included. Recognizing that people change, and their opinions or political stances can change, especially over a decades long career. I try to keep that in mind, but then something gets said that reminds you of who they once were, and it makes me second guess if they really have changed at all.