Teacher teaches a student about the hands.

[grexly75]

I don't envy teachers having to teach ghetto trash like that in public schools.

This is probably one reason there are probably so few people going into the education profession.. And with the direction that society is going I hate to see what this world will be like 20, 50 to 100 years from now.. Pretty much future generations are going to be so screwed if things keep going the way they are..

[muto]

This is probably one reason there are probably so few people going into the education profession.. And with the direction that society is going I hate to see what this world will be like 20, 50 to 100 years from now.. Pretty much future generations are going to be so screwed if things keep going the way they are..

Cubicles around the desks.

[Rotted]

teachers are adults. Children are children. No idea what can be going on with him in his home life that makes him act out in such a way.

While I disagree with the teacher and he needs to be sacked. That is not an excuse for the teen to be a cunt. Additionally, we're seeing a 2 minute video not the entire scenario. This kid could be the ring leader and shit stirrer that's been pushing that teacher to the edge for an extended period of time, trying to get a reaction from him. Maybe, maybe not.

But people like you need to stop giving teens like this (Making the point of teens here, that dude isn't a child) shields and protective barriers as an excuse to do what ever the fuck they want and think there's no consequences.

[PACOX]

Teacher should have called security or the office as soon as he threw the ball.

Clearly but in that moment the teacher isn't thinking to expose himself long enough to make a call while the kid is actively threatening him.

In an ideal world there would have been an alert system near by. Just looking at the room you can tell that schools telecom system was probably just a telephone. Don't think he was going to give the chance to sucker punch him while on the phone.

Someone was going to put hands on the kid regardless. Be it the resource officer or the dean if the teacher was able to get to the phone.

[Exeris]

This is what happen when you just throw teachers into the arena with absolutely no tools to maintain order. They cant punish, they cant expel, they're supposed to take the abuse of students who dont give a fuck about anything because they know they're untouchables in the current system.

So yeah "He shouldnt have done that", but it's hard for me to blame him for doing it either.

Saw a documentary not long ago about how Norwegian teachers are one of the most likely employees to be victims of abuse and violent abuse, we also have a problem recruiting teachers.

I have problems with my memory so I don't remember the exact numbers just that it was something in the ball park of 1/3 of the teachers got attacked at least once a week.

Teenagers are the obvious main problem, strong enough to be a physical match to their teachers and they know they can get away with pretty much anything because of their age and many of them have irresponsible parents that just don't give a shit.

[PACOX]

Well have the teenager expelled from the school. Assault is assault and the teacher should face the full weight of the law.

Teacher should be charged for sure. For one you never want to set an example where teachers are fighting students.

What's the full weight of the low though when you can see why the situation escalated. The guy isn't going around just strong arming kids because they didn't mind him. He was physically threatened and didn't handle the situation in a professional manner.

[Deleted]

That punk deserved to get knocked out cold. The teacher showed more than a reasonable amount of restraint. The only disappointing aspect of the video is that the student wasn't lying on the floor unconscious at the end!

He surely did but that doesn't make it the best course of action, risking damage for something as insignificant as this is pretty idiotic for both sides, they both got lucky this time.

[Exeris]

Clearly but in that moment the teacher isn't thinking to expose himself long enough to make a call while the kid is actively threatening him.

In an ideal world there would have been an alert system near by. Just looking at the room you can tell that schools telecom system was probably just a telephone. Don't think he was going to give the chance to sucker punch him while on the phone.

Someone was going to put hands on the kid regardless. Be it the resource officer or the dean if the teacher was able to get to the phone.

I'm a big fan of that, I think teachers should have access to a panic button so they can get help, if for example a fight breaks out it can easily be an impossible situation for a single teacher to deal with, it can also be used in a medical emergency.

[mostvp71]

Guy coming right at you. Try to call security. Get shit kicked. Great plan.

Brat wanted to act like an adult. He got treated like one.

The kid was tiny, sure if you absolutely must defend yourself then yes, it’s justified. That wasn’t even remotely the case here.

[Deleted]

If you lay your hands on a minor, for whatever reason, you should be disqualified from teaching. It's tough, but you needs to be able to cope with shot and not violently retaliate, you need to be better than that.

I get that kids are awful, there is almost certainly things that can be done to make schools a better place for both teachers and students but handing teachers weapons and allowing them to assault their students is definitely not it.

[Super Kami Dende]

Kind of disappointed that the Teacher didn't smack him even harder. What an absolute little cuntrag.

[Themius]

While I disagree with the teacher and he needs to be sacked. That is not an excuse for the teen to be a cunt. Additionally, we're seeing a 2 minute video not the entire scenario. This kid could be the ring leader and shit stirrer that's been pushing that teacher to the edge for an extended period of time, trying to get a reaction from him. Maybe, maybe not.

But people like you need to stop giving teens like this (Making the point of teens here, that dude isn't a child) shields and protective barriers as an excuse to do what ever the fuck they want and think there's no consequences.

I'm sorry but protective shields? So I am to ignore the fact that teenagers are at a time in their lives where they are extremely erratic where they are prone to violence and criminality? Those two things peak in teen years and drastically fall off as they go into adulthood. I am to ignore how the brain develops because.... what's the reason? I'm not excusing the actions, I'm explaining why they happen and what can prompt them. If the teen was pushing the teacher to the edge then why didn't the teacher call security well before hand?

Teens are children 14-15-16 those are the ages of children. Who said there should be no consequences who the fuck said that?! The consequence should be forced therapy so they can talk to someone and talk through their issues and we need to find out whether this is due to his home life or is it something with him, or is he a sociopath. You don't find out those issues by saying "fuck him! expel him!" you need to find out why.

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You are sugar coating this by saying "student disagrees with teacher and express his opinion". Student did address professor using N word. Student is reckless. However, in any case when there are adults and kids, my blame is always on adults. This situation could have been handled far better if the teacher knew what he was doing and if teacher was actually qualified to be a teacher. I am sure people get a job as teachers by going to school and trying to be convincing on job interview how they love to work with kids or some version of it and school board goes "Yeah, he seems fine".

I guarantee the use of the n word wasn't racist there so he is talking to the teacher like he is talking to any person off the street most likely.

[Rotted]

I'm sorry but protective shields? So I am to ignore the fact that teenagers are at a time in their lives where they are extremely erratic where they are prone to violence and criminality? Those two things peak in teen years and drastically fall off as they go into adulthood. I am to ignore how the brain develops because.... what's the reason? I'm not excusing the actions, I'm explaining why they happen and what can prompt them. If the teen was pushing the teacher to the edge then why didn't the teacher call security well before hand?

Teens are children 14-15-16 those are the ages of children. Who said there should be no consequences who the fuck said that?! The consequence should be forced therapy so they can talk to someone and talk through their issues and we need to find out whether this is due to his home life or is it something with him, or is he a sociopath. You don't find out those issues by saying "fuck him! expel him!" you need to find out why.

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I guarantee the use of the n word wasn't racist there so he is talking to the teacher like he is talking to any person off the street most likely.

Therapy? great. Let's sit them down, talk about feels and how what they do is wrong and they shouldn't do it again.

"Sorry bois, I can't make the game tonight, I've got to go to my therapist"
"What ya do?"
"Started a fight with a teacher, no biggie"

The issue is we have no real, actual form of punishment for teens like (teens, not children. Fuck 16 is practically a young adult) and they know it. So yea expel them for the safety of others. They won't give a fuck in the present but in the future they'll realize how they've fucked up and then it's down to them as a person to get out of it and sort themselves out.

[Jekyll]

Both were retarded and teacher should never hit a student (except for self defense).

That kid was also saying pretty racist things.

It was self-defense. The student hit him first with his ball.

[Themius]

Therapy? great. Let's sit them down, talk about feels and how what they do is wrong and they shouldn't do it again.

"Sorry bois, I can't make the game tonight, I've got to go to my therapist"
"What ya do?"
"Started a fight with a teacher, no biggie"

The issue is we have no real, actual form of punishment for teens like (teens, not children. Fuck 16 is practically a young adult) and they know it. So yea expel them for the safety of others. They won't give a fuck in the present but in the future they'll realize how they've fucked up and then it's down to them as a person to get out of it and sort themselves out.

So we know there can be psychological issues leading to his behaviour and your attitude is "hahahahahaha therapy is a joke hahahaha"? The whole point is to get down to "why" you don't know what the fuck may come up.

Expelling them is fucking retarded unless they are a big threat. Why? Because now you want to make a group of people who will have it worse in life, and likely lead to higher crime rates which affects everyone

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I dont understand, i dont see this as a problem. But i really dont, i think it was all fair. lol

[Cizr]

It was self-defense. The student hit him first with his ball.

I dont know how self defense laws work in USA but here its only self defense if you are stopping attack that is happening.

Example :

I can hit back a guy that is hitting me but I cant hit a guy that attacked me 5 minutes ago and atm is not attacking me. If I do that I´m aggressor now.

[Deleted]

But people like you need to stop giving teens like this (Making the point of teens here, that dude isn't a child) shields and protective barriers as an excuse to do what ever the fuck they want and think there's no consequences.

The barriers are to protect YOU from teenagers and not the other way around, teenagers will naturally have unparalleled fighting spirits and don't care about consequences, you can't win a full-out war with stupid that has a stronger temperament and constitution than you.

[Rotted]

So we know there can be psychological issues leading to his behaviour and your attitude is "hahahahahaha therapy is a joke hahahaha"? The whole point is to get down to "why" you don't know what the fuck may come up.

Expelling them is fucking retarded unless they are a big threat. Why? Because now you want to make a group of people who will have it worse in life, and likely lead to higher crime rates which affects everyone

The odds if their acting this way at this age, their already heading for a life of crime.

I've grown up with a few of lads like the one in the video. Most of them expelled because of physical violence towards other students not teachers. One of them ended up in Juvie at 14 for a year and a half.

All of them bar one work in trade either happy and contempt or regret for their decisions.

The one who isn't in that position? The one that served time. It was a royal slap in the face to him. He came out of school with no GCSE's only a few courses of what ever they had inside. They wouldn't let him into college based on his past and qualifications. So he worked and saved up. Two years ago he got into university doing computer science and mathematics joint honors.

He had a hard cold dose of reality and punishment and it's done him wonders

[Doomislav]

I think that part of the problem was that the teacher felt like he had no recourse. I feel for the guy, but he shouldn't have attacked the student physically. He should have got an administrator and had him detained, or otherwise removed from his classroom.

Also consider the student. Any young kid with this amount of scorn and disregard for his teacher is going to have a very difficult life unless there was a way to turn him around. And no, smacking him in his head won't do it, he probably gets enough of that at his home.