so mage dosen t have water elemental in wow clasic?

[Edison]

Do you even...?
Frost mages are very strong in classic open world pvp.

He is 100% baiting.

[Demetrion]

I'll tell you only one thing: Frostbite. You're fine.

[Deleted]

Nobody would remember as nobody played frost

Have fun playing Fire in Molten core and Bwl ;-)

[Whistl3r]

so mage dosen t have water elemental in wow clasic?
i bet it wil suck in world pvp in wow clasic with no pet and 1 blink once the ataker gets to me im done

Yes but other classes didnt have the abilities to close the gap on blink they do now. No Heroic leap, Charge was only ooc, No shadow step, aspect of the cheetah caused the hunter to get dazed if they were hit etc etc.

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Didnt come out till TBC and even then it was on a CD so wasnt up 24/7 as it is now.

PVP Frost mage it would be Frostbolt at range or you would be doing Frost nove, Cone of Cold, Arcane explosion..... i always preferred playing POM Pyro spec

ToEP POM Pyro <3

[Greyvax]

2-shotting people was the norm at max level, especially with damage boosting trinkets.

frost nova + CS. then set up a shatter combo with frostbolt & cone of cold = destroyed

[Gungnir]

2-shotting people was the norm at max level, especially with damage boosting trinkets.

frost nova + CS. then set up a shatter combo with frostbolt & cone of cold = destroyed

Hearing Cone of Cold get mentioned in an argument about damage really takes me back..
It's one of my favourite spells but it's been so fucking awful in every expansion since WotLK and I am surprised that it's still around today, since it does no damage anymore.

[shaunika123]

mages were literally the best world pvp class(even arguably better than rogues)

lol.

nobody really had gap closers except for warriors and druids

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Hearing Cone of Cold get mentioned in an argument about damage really takes me back..
It's one of my favourite spells but it's been so fucking awful in every expansion since WotLK and I am surprised that it's still around today, since it does no damage anymore.

same could be said about frostbolt

but to be fair you can do pretty nice dmg with cone of cold now, cos there's a pvp talent that buffs its dmg after a nova

[unbound]

so mage dosen t have water elemental in wow clasic?
i bet it wil suck in world pvp in wow clasic with no pet and 1 blink once the ataker gets to me im done

Nope. Sheep was very effective back then, and melee didn't have nearly as many closers as they have today.

[andrewjoy]

Don't go into Bfa expecting much of a class balance.

Fixed it for you.

Oh and no , no water elemental.

[Vakna]

Yep, people will have to get back into the mindset of distributing points in trees instead of the extreme partitioning they've had the past few xpacs.

What do you mean get used to it? It was just a couple cookie cutter builds you can google (since they've been around for 14 years already), then just forget the talent tree exists. You don't need to get used to something that only happens once and requires no thought.

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so mage dosen t have water elemental in wow clasic?
i bet it wil suck in world pvp in wow clasic with no pet and 1 blink once the ataker gets to me im done

I now believe 45 is a wow subscriber.

[Deleted]

Don't go into classic expecting much of a class balance.

So just like retail?

[JustRob]

The whole idea of playing a frost mage is to kite your opponent while killing them. If you let them get into melee range you've failed at playing frost mage.

Casters have always been glass cannons, ofcourse they can't facetank a melee class.

[Spotnick]

Yet another person who didn't play back then but acts like they did.

I joined in BC, but obviously I forgot about the frost boss in AQ40 and resistance in other raids, but in BC frost was exclusively for PVP if my memory serves me well.

[Chaelexi]

Is this a joke?

No, it wasn't in Vanilla, it came in TBC, and only as a cooldown I think. The 31 point talent was Frost Shield, Frost AoE grinding was massively popular, and 31 Arcane/20 Frost was a really solid spec for MC/BWL, you only went fire in AQ40+ gear, it couldn't beat frost until then.

It could not beat frost due to everything being immune to Fire.....

[MardestyGSOG]

LOLOLOLOL Frost mages were op as all hell in vanilla, probably 2nd in pvp dominance to rogues

[Jazzhands]

It could not beat frost due to everything being immune to Fire.....

Uhhh, AQ40/20/ZG/Naxx? Only Mc/Bwl/Ony have that issue, and the gear you have at that point isn't good enough for fire anyways, not enough crit.

Once you get enough crit and are mainly progressing in AQ and beyond fire is better.

[Chaelexi]

LOLOLOLOL Frost mages were op as all hell in vanilla, probably 2nd in pvp dominance to rogues

Missing Demo warlock. a frost mage could lose to a felhunter if a fight

[Shibito]

Frost mage is insanely OP in vanilla try it on pirate servers and see

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so mage dosen t have water elemental in wow clasic?
i bet it wil suck in world pvp in wow clasic with no pet and 1 blink once the ataker gets to me im done

I want to say Water Elemental was a CD? I kinda remember it being one when I started in TBC.

Nobody would remember as nobody played frost

What the hell, am I that old? Vanilla information is readily available if you don't remember or didn't play, but I remember all of it clearly. Frost was good, no elemental. Almost everyone was Frost.