Is Anduin mind controlling Saurfang?

[Deleted]

No. Anduin mentioned saurfang didn't kill him when he had a chance before. Therefore Boiking might have mind controlled saurfang back then but if saurfang is already mind controlled why bother having a conversation with the mind slave. And if anduin mind controlled saurfang during the cinematic why wouldn't saurfang of killed him during whatever previous chance he had.

Saurfang hasn't atemped killed anidun twice now so unless anidun mind controlled him twice saurfang just doesn't want to kill him

[roboscorcher]

They promised a morally gray story. We haven’t seen much morally gray actions from Anduin. He knows he can’t beat Sylvanas alone. He might take to actions he would not normally do. It has happened in real life warfare

Freeing a prisoner of war in the hopes of the enemy eating itself...that's not exactly a black/white decision. That's like if the US released an ISIS fighter in hopes that he topples ISIS by himself.

[Magnagarde]

Nothing in that cinematic gave that impression away, unless Anduin made Saurfang slam his fist beside him and tell him that he could kill him right where he's standing.

[Combatbutler]

Though Anduin has displayed the ability and has already done it before, doesn't mean he mind controls people all the time.

[Adoxe]

Obviously not, but Anduin has used Mind Control once in MoP.

[Arrashi]

Though Anduin has displayed the ability and has already done it before, doesn't mean he mind controls people all the time.

But what if you are mind controlled to say that ?

[Combatbutler]

But what if you are mind controlled to say that ?

Then I will have to call Sylvanas telling her how great Anduin is, which means she will mind control me, then I will call the lich king going on about Sylvanas, who takes over and then I am going to tell Anduin bolvar is the best , which makes Anduin sad because we were such good friends and the cycle begins anew.

[laplacedemon]

Anduin is a Holy Priest soon to ascend to Retribution paladin, not a shadow priest. Holy priests dont mind control.

Except the time he actually used mind control and almost mind blast'd Garrosh and him being depicted multiple times as a healer instead of a warrior and therefore priest not a paladin?

Blink if Anduin made you write this.

[RangerDaz]

Except the time he actually used mind control and almost mind blast'd Garrosh and him being depicted multiple times as a healer instead of a warrior and therefore priest not a paladin?

Blink if Anduin made you write this.

Anduin uses plate and his father's sword, so it is natural that he might ascend to a paladin, as paladins are priests that evolved into Holy warriors.
And i don't understand the healer comment of yours, because there are Holy specced Paladins as well?

Btw, holy priests no longer use shadow spells since legion, only the discipline and shadow ones.

[Soeroah]

He has absolutely no reason to. He's just got a thing for locking himself in rooms with dangerous orcs and trying to work out what they're thinking through discussion.

Saurfang is just more receptive than Garrosh was, and their goals align. Mind control Saurfang wouldn't accomplish anything, and could in fact hamper his effectiveness at weakening Sylvanas' position. Not to mention lay the seed for future conflict should the rest of the Horde ever learn their beloved High Warlord was being mind controlled by the enemy king, instead of doing what he's doing out of a love for the Horde.

The only time Anduin has ever mind controlled someone is so he could get away from his guards and try to resolve conflict in Pandaria. He'd never mind control someone INTO conflict. He wants to avoid it at all costs.

[ro9ue]

Anduin is a priest. Priests can mind control.
We have never seen him use shadow magic, but player controlled priest have the power to use shadow magic.

Why would you have a conversation with someone you are mind controlling with no one else present?

[laplacedemon]

Anduin uses plate and his father's sword, so it is natural that he might ascend to a paladin, as paladins are priests that evolved into Holy warriors.
And i don't understand the healer comment of yours, because there are Holy specced Paladins as well?

Btw, holy priests no longer use shadow spells since legion, only the discipline and shadow ones.

Anduin is the polar opposite of his father, who is the stereotypical fighter. Anduin's story involves failing his father's expectations to be a warrior like him (Anduin was generally bad at melee and he still kinda is), finding his own path (being a priest) and making his father accept him as he is. In "Blood of Our Fathers", after Anduin protects his father and heals him so he can fight, Varian makes a speech about how he's a warrior, how he relies on strength, steel, blood etc. and how the times change, how the new kings will be healers.

You can say that Anduin learned he has to fight when his father died in Legion, however it is still more of a necessity than a character change. The fact that he wields his father's sword and wears plate armor is more symbolic than anything (Blizzard did recently say that he's still a priest when they were asked if he's a paladin because of the sword and the plate armor thing because it really is misleading). And they emphasize how he is a healer/priest in BfA's trailer. You see Sylvanas vitalising her army by being an exceptional warrior (and the warcry of course) while Anduin puts down his sword in the middle of the battle and mends wounds.

That's his mindset. For him to become a paladin, he needs to become more warrior-like and that's not happening yet. I thought he will end up as a discipline priest (he does have a tendency to cast barriers and it would fit him as disc is a middle way between being a healer yet having some offense) but who knows, maybe wearing his father's sword is enough to show that he's "willing to fight"...

[Kyphael]

Mind control only works on the weak minded in lore as I recall. Like Obi-Wan could use the Jedi mind trick on a storm trooper but not on Jango Fett.

[Combatbutler]

Mind control only works on the weak minded in lore as I recall. Like Obi-Wan could use the Jedi mind trick on a storm trooper but not on Jango Fett.

Are you saying si7 members are weak minded

[Maljinwo]

He knows he can’t beat Sylvanas alone.

All Anduin needs is a lvl 20 NPC with a shotgun.
That worked

[Kyphael]

All Anduin needs is a lvl 20 NPC with a shotgun.
That worked

Nameless foot soldiers? Yeah.

[Friendlyimmolation]

All Anduin needs is a lvl 20 NPC with a shotgun.
That worked

what if a guy with a shotgun counters the guy with a shotgun

[Unholyground]

I don't think it's something Anduin wouldn't do. It's just that there is no need for him to do it cause it's clear that Saurfang wants him to stop Sylvanas. He says so. So of course he is gonna cooperate. In case you haven't noticed, there are some people who aren't ok with what Sylvanas is doing.

Sylvanas is going to be putting N'Zoth in the blade and using him to open a rift to the Shadow lands, what could possibly go wrong? Let us follow her!

[Maljinwo]

what if a guy with a shotgun counters the guy with a shotgun

They will be locked in a War of 1000 days where opponents are so evenly matched they can neither advance or back off before their opponent sees it.

[Shelly]

Did Saurfang blow all his CDs at once outside the GCD and then just stand there?

Nope?

Clearly not mind controlled.