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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Celfydd View Post
    The point is not whether they ARE focussed on your class rather than your spec (let alone how long that has been the case) but rather WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE focussed on your class rather than your spec.

    Everyone understands how the system works now and you add nothing by stating it. This thread is about how annoying the system is and how it should be changed.
    Do you really want to open the floodgates of "Wah! Blizz I forgot to change my loot spec before I turned in my emissary!!!!!one!!"? There's a reason we got the automated item restore service. To save the GM's sanity at having to fix every slip of memory.
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

  2. #42
    The dumb thing is the classes that clearly can use the same weapon type for all specs and it tries to give you something that only benefits one spec like Druids, Priests, Mages, Warlocks it should all default to staves as a reward. Certain classes should be hard coded to make life simpler for them.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    The dumb thing is the classes that clearly can use the same weapon type for all specs and it tries to give you something that only benefits one spec like Druids, Priests, Mages, Warlocks it should all default to staves as a reward. Certain classes should be hard coded to make life simpler for them.
    What about the eternal 2her vs 1her w/ frill debate?
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Swalload View Post
    The reasoning is you play a class, not just a spec.
    If this were true then how did we get spec-specific artifacts, spec-specific quests, and lootspecs? By your reasoning those things should not exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    Do you really want to open the floodgates of "Wah! Blizz I forgot to change my loot spec before I turned in my emissary!!!!!one!!"?
    Yes I do, because this is simply not an issue. The vast majority of players only play the one chosen specialisation of their class, and of the remaining tiny minority most of them are well aware of what spec they're currently in and how it affects their loot rewards.
    Last edited by Celfydd; 2018-11-21 at 08:13 AM.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Celfydd View Post
    If this were true then how did we get spec-specific artifacts, spec-specific quests, and lootspecs? By your reasoning those things should not exist.
    Complete opposite. We get to have every artifacts, that means we play a fucking class, by YOUR logic the 2 remaining quests should disappear after you get one weapon because in your eyes a class is only 33%(other than druid and DH exception) of a class.

    We have access to every content of the class, if the classes were just a spec we would only have access to things of that spec and the rest would have to be done on a different toon.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Unholyground View Post
    Well the fact that on my Druid I am guardian and only get 1 handed weapons, it forces me to get an off-hand and the whole cycle begins a new, it is unacceptable game design in my opinion and I stopped doing world quests because of it. Hell they could even give you a cache that allows you to chose the damn reward, not that hard.
    In months of playing and doing emissaries... I have yet to see a 2-handed Agil weapon. Sick system Blizz - you guyz is pro!

  7. #47
    Don't worry, you guys get holiday daggers

  8. #48
    I still think that all they should do is just add tokens that give you say +5 (+1?) to ilvl for the slot. Then cap the ilvl for that tier. Then the artwork for that slot would be based on transmog or something. You could have the transmog look be drops/crafted/etc.

    Then if you are an assassination rogue you just up the weapon slots. Not have to look for some dagger to drop.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Celfydd View Post
    If this were true then how did we get spec-specific artifacts, spec-specific quests, and lootspecs? By your reasoning those things should not exist.



    Yes I do, because this is simply not an issue. The vast majority of players only play the one chosen specialisation of their class, and of the remaining tiny minority most of them are well aware of what spec they're currently in and how it affects their loot rewards.
    Please don't talk about "the vast majority of players" because you don't speak for them or know how they play. So you basically have no argument other to say my point is irrelevant because you say so.
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Swalload View Post
    by YOUR logic the 2 remaining quests should disappear
    I never said or implied anything of the sort.

    Quote Originally Posted by cparle87 View Post
    you don't ... know how they play
    Actually we do since they write messages on forums. Switching specialisations was only relatively recently introduced in WoW and it remains a niche feature, only used frequently by advanced players.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Celfydd View Post
    I never said or implied anything of the sort.
    I said "The reasoning is you play a class, not just a spec."

    To which you replied "If this were true then how did we get spec-specific artifacts, spec-specific quests, and lootspecs? By your reasoning those things should not exist."

    What I get from this is you think the proof that we don't play a full class but rather only a single spec is because there are spec-specific things in the game. The fact that one class has access to all spec-specific things proves that we don't play only 1 spec, so the only way to make your statement true is if after we pick 1 spec-specific path, every content related to other specs should become unavailable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slime View Post
    In months of playing and doing emissaries... I have yet to see a 2-handed Agil weapon. Sick system Blizz - you guyz is pro!
    Why do you want a weapon at least 30 ilvl bellow what drops all the time?

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Swalload View Post
    I said "The reasoning is you play a class, not just a spec."

    To which you replied "If this were true then how did we get spec-specific artifacts, spec-specific quests, and lootspecs? By your reasoning those things should not exist."

    What I get from this is you think the proof that we don't play a full class but rather only a single spec is because there are spec-specific things in the game. The fact that one class has access to all spec-specific things proves that we don't play only 1 spec, so the only way to make your statement true is if after we pick 1 spec-specific path, every content related to other specs should become unavailable.

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    Why do you want a weapon at least 30 ilvl bellow what drops all the time?
    That bear toon is my 3rd 120, I don't raid with it or do much - but I try to gear it through emissaries and wqs an occasional mythic - I did finally get one to drop in a mythic so I have a 340 finally.. running around with a 315 was annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeBogina View Post
    Don't worry, you guys get holiday daggers
    Those will be like 335 I bet and boe and rare. and they look like trees!

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by slime View Post
    That bear toon is my 3rd 120, I don't raid with it or do much - but I try to gear it through emissaries and wqs an occasional mythic - I did finally get one to drop in a mythic so I have a 340 finally.. running around with a 315 was annoying.

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    Those will be like 335 I bet and boe and rare. and they look like trees!
    Sure but before you made that toon you already clearly knew that weapons as emissary rewards were extremely rare and sucked anyway, why would you count on that to gear up? Makes no sense to me. You alreayd had all the information to know it was gonna suck.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Celfydd View Post
    I never said or implied anything of the sort.



    Actually we do since they write messages on forums. Switching specialisations was only relatively recently introduced in WoW and it remains a niche feature, only used frequently by advanced players.
    MMO-Champs has maybe 1 million registered posters. Back in MoP Blizz released that there have been over 100,000,000 registered accounts. If everyone who has ever registered on MMO-Champs logged on and posted in a mega thread that they change loot spec to hunt specific gear that would be 1% of players. Since that is an impossibility I stand by my statement that no one can know what "the majority" or even a significant minority of players think, and should not presume to think for them.
    The most difficult thing to do is accept that there is nothing wrong with things you don't like and accept that people can like things you don't.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by slime View Post

    Those will be like 335 I bet and boe and rare. and they look like trees!
    lol well I played a warrior for a long time and I never got a giant tree sword

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