If they want to keep people entertained, they should release content faster..
These are new times and people will not pay each month, if they feel bored.
If they want to keep people entertained, they should release content faster..
These are new times and people will not pay each month, if they feel bored.
And that’s why the 8.1 war campaign is time gated. And why people inferred that a January 22 launch was very likely since that’s when part 4 of the war campaign is coming out according to PTR calendar.
So they are doing the same thing. Just with slightly fewer chapters but this time lining up when raid launches.
Post count? Who the hell cares about that? Well, maybe people that think that their opinion about video game is "objective fact" care ;D. No, I won't continue this "discussion" (you can reply once more to get last word and "win discussion" if you want). Sleeep well!
More content. Consider this... BfA dropped, basically, on 9/1. In the last 3 months, they've received $45m for each 1M subs (more or less... I get that there's a discount for buying a multi-month sub, etc). Let's say they have, on the low end, 2m subs. So they've grossed ~$90m from BfA subs alone. That doesn't include the box price or any other services.
What do I expect from a company whose product grosses $90m or so every 3 months? Well, more than we get on the 11th, that's for damn sure.
Why not, say, new 5 mans? Oh, I know... 'they take a lot of effort!!!" So? I mean, reuse art if you need to - I'd rather a new dungeon with similar art than nothing.
And if it's THAT hard to create dungeons aside from the art... why do their tools suck so bad? After 14 years, why would they have crappy tools?
Finally, just to answer this before someone says it... yes, I get that they need people to do the work. So... hire some? It's not like they've not known the release date of BfA for months before this fall and thus that they would need patch content, etc.
Or we can just keep making excuses for a large game company that can't seem to create much content.
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I don't even care much about raiding anymore, what's pissing me off is the story and the azerite system is boring, and the content in this patch is centered around more Horde vs. Alliance shit and infusing Azeroth discharge into our armor for lame ass traits. The one saving grace is the leveling xp nerf, but even that's just meh because it's one of those things they broke so later they could "fix it" and advertise it as a patch feature. "Look, in 8.1 we fix what we fucked earlier this year!" If that's not trolling, I don't know what is. As game director, Ion has to be blamed for it.
I'm not really happy with the date. They shoud just open the mini raid at launch.
22 is the worst possible week for me. I have waited 12 years for KH3. F you Blizzard! You are not ruining this occasion for me.
because some people travel cross the world to visit with their families for christmas, so first week of january would be bad.
also btw, for example in legion there was 5 months between each raid, this will put uldir at 4.5 between sooooo
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yes,. yes they do, i love how your only comparison is fucking vanilla.
they have stopped doing holiday released for years now because those were HORRIBLE
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Warfront, islands, faction assaults, Heritage armors, raid, new pet battle dungeon, new war campaign, system changes, reputation changes, new vendors for M+, warfronts, and general pvp.
22nd is way too late imo.
By then I'll probably be busy with 4.5 in FF14 and end up playing catchup with the raid. Should have been first week of January.
Well... not the raid, not on the 11th. Aside from that it sounds like a lot but let's split it out into playable content and other features:
playable content
Warfront, islands, faction assaults, new war campaign
1 new warfront which, if it's like Stromgarde, is useful a couple of times. Islands - new, but this is some of the more boring content I've done in WoW so it's hard to get excited about new maps. If the new island bring new AI enemies that are more compelling... ok. Faction Assaults - Legion invasions Part 2? Decent but need to see it. War Campaign - mostly these are rep based quests. Good for them doing this, but we need to see how they are.
That's IT for new playable content until Jan 22.
Other features
Heritage armors, system changes, reputation changes, new vendors for M+
IN between (not core play content)
new pet battle dungeon
By the way, people are noting that raids have historically come out every 5 months or so and that's true and worked well... in the past.
Remember, that in the past most raids took a big chunk of that 5 month period progressing. You wouldn't kill the entire raid for weeks and weeks, maybe even taking most of the 4-5 months to get to and farm the last boss. There wasn't another option - if you wanted to see the raid, that was how you did it.
The two things that are different now are LFR and normal. LFR obviously lets you see the raid when a wing is released. There's no real progression there - if you want to, you'll see all of the bosses in a wing the week it's released.
Normal isn't much better. While I'm sure some people progress in normal, most people get through it in a month or less. That means that if you hit normal the week it's out, you're done pretty fast. In this environment, insisting on 5 months between raids means you have a long drought where you're farming the raid or not raiding depending on how you deal with a raid once it's done (obviously some people move to the next difficulty bit that's not really a new raid, is it?)
The cowards still haven't said when Zandalari and KT fatties are playable. March sometime after the last LFR comes I guess?
I feel like the source of the problem really came down to release date. BfA released too early and at a poor time. I feel like Legion would have suffered a similar timing issue were it not for ToV. Had BfA released in October, timing would have felt okay here and product would have felt more finished to boot. I know people hated big year gaps at the end of expansions, but as could be seen, user complaints are far more prevalent when these gaps are placed in the middle of the expansion. Final tiers being longer than others are nice because final tiers also feel like you finally received the complete game. Blizz can go all out with their trinkets, etc. as well without fear of it being OP for future tiers. There's more benefits for putting the gap there.
Because it shows that the holiday means little. If they want to release something they will release when they want whether or not a holiday is coming. It still doesn't change that January 22nd is way after Christmas and New Years. Either way you are just spouting BS and given your caps lock and swear words getting quite angry over it. And also the raid can't be released before it is ready because it is ready the day the patch releases. It isn't unfinished until they fully unlock it. What kind of logic even brought you to that conclusion.
Holiday releases are not that horrible. World first players will still play. The rest who think they are competing of course will have their egos hurt when they suddenly can't play. There is nothing wrong with a guild taking a holiday break and not getting to jump right in because of that. I can guarantee you that if it released during 25th-1st that their will still be plenty of pugs attempting it.
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