Bill de Blasio shows why socialistic impulses are not made for America

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The bike lane in Rego Park was stupid. It doesn't serve the residents and it was really just put there to allow people to bike into Manhattan. (Manhattan's interests trump that of Queens, color me surprised!)

On transit issue, just to play devil's advocate and without any knowledge of the specific patterns in question that informed that particular decision, bike lanes aren't the kind of thing meant to serve their particular neighbourhood, they're meant to reduce traffic patterns across the entire city by encouraging safe bike transit along major routes; someone biking to work rather than driving is one less vehicle on the roads creating smog, is one less parking slot you need at the work end of things (at least), and so on. A bike lane project like that wouldn't help people in Queens directly, but it should end up reducing congestion a bit, which helps them indirectly.

[Orbitus]

3 pages of valid criticism of your posted article, and this is what you chose to respond to?

Troll detected, next.

It is the standard right winger response to bullshit links. Especially to opinion articles from shitgibbons like Jim Demint.

[Byleth]

Don't give two shits about infrastructure to tell you the truth.

The bike lane at Rego Park was voted down by Community Board. Overruled by Bill. Killed approx. 250 parking places in the neighborhood where parking is at premium.
Will continue into Forest Hills, despite Community Board plea not to. Hundreds of parking places will be lost.

Don't let me start with SHSAT exam.

Gee, you seem to care a lot about infrastructure, you know, for someone that doesn't care about it. Hmmm....

[Mihalik]

On transit issue, just to play devil's advocate and without any knowledge of the specific patterns in question that informed that particular decision, bike lanes aren't the kind of thing meant to serve their particular neighbourhood, they're meant to reduce traffic patterns across the entire city by encouraging safe bike transit along major routes; someone biking to work rather than driving is one less vehicle on the roads creating smog, is one less parking slot you need at the work end of things (at least), and so on. A bike lane project like that wouldn't help people in Queens directly, but it should end up reducing congestion a bit, which helps them indirectly.

Yes. In principle yes. The specific case discussed here really doesn't do any of that, it actually makes traffic all around the area worse as the works once complete ended up creating somewhat of a bottleneck.

[Spiffums]

Actually he did.

Luke 6:29-30. To him to strikes you on the one cheek, offer the other also. And from him who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who asks of you. And from him to takes away your goods do not ask them back.

GIVE is the word Jesus used........ Socialism is TAKE from you BIG DIFFERENCE!

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I'm going to assume you are not trolling, and you actually don't understand what city planning is or does.

Any citizen is allowed to live in any residential area baring a court order preventing them from doing so (sex offenders etc). When the city grants a building permit, for example for 100 housing units in a building, a city has to provide certain services to that building, such as sewage, power, gas, schooling for the residents, police etc. This costs the city resources. So when they grant the permit they do so with a condition attached where they require a fraction of the housing units to be reserved to people with a certain economic profile (young families, low income families etc). The city furthermore tries to incentivize this by waiving certain taxes and fees for the developers cooperation. The city does this to prevent ghettoification, and to better distribute services thus improving the living conditions in the city as a whole.

The reason why this sort of doesn't work in New York, is because housing prices are so insanely inflated that the city is simply unable to afford an incentive high enough to motivate developers to allocate any part of their developments to protected housing. Furthermore it is even financially viable for developers to disregard city, state and even federal housing ordinances or to endlessly litigate them in court as the potential fines aren't high enough to make a dent in the profit margins.

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One outright lie+spelling error(illegals getting your money), one idiotic statement (people are lazy to work while working 60 hours a week and still not making a living wage, cuz you know, fuck minimum wages), one neat hypocritical one (most gun nuts are Jesus freaks too, even tho they haven't got the faintest idea about anything Jesus said or done, apart from something something hate the gays), and an ignorant statement (Jesus told ya'll to give it away willingly, all of it).

So yeah...

Yeah all the welfare Queens have 3 jobs sure of course. Anyone with a damn job at all makes to much to get on welfare. You people need to out in the real world and figure this stuff out before you just repeating what CNN tells you.

[Mihalik]

Yeah all the welfare Queens have 3 jobs sure of course. Anyone with a damn job at all makes to much to get on welfare. You people need to out in the real world and figure this stuff out before you just repeating what CNN tells you.

Yeah, cuz fuck reality, statistics and whatnot.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b00705db4d1364
https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc.../#6ee7a455720b
https://www.ibtimes.com/welfare-amer...stance-2300713
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/13/b...ce-anyway.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...y-already-work
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...aking-the-bank

[elaina]

Typical right wing garbage thinking regulations are an attempt to punish and control people rather than protect the weak and underprivileged from predatory capitalism. Tell me more about how the 'haves' are mad about how they don't have even more. *That* cycle of insatiable greed is the 'dark impulse' of putting down others we should actually be talking about.

[Stormspellz]

GIVE is the word Jesus used........ Socialism is TAKE from you BIG DIFFERENCE!

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Yeah all the welfare Queens have 3 jobs sure of course. Anyone with a damn job at all makes to much to get on welfare. You people need to out in the real world and figure this stuff out before you just repeating what CNN tells you.

factual wrong, maybe you should stop repeating shit you hear from right wing propaganda, walmart alone blows this out of the water.

[Kronik85]

GIVE is the word Jesus used........ Socialism is TAKE from you BIG DIFFERENCE!

And if the socialists simply asked? What then?

[Klaiden Potugye]

Typical right wing garbage thinking regulations are an attempt to punish and control people rather than protect the weak and underprivileged from predatory capitalism. Tell me more about how the 'haves' are mad about how they don't have even more. *That* cycle of insatiable greed is the 'dark impulse' of putting down others we should actually be talking about.

The "weak and unprivileged" are mostly protected in this capitalist capital of the world we call New York, if they give two shits about helping themselves.
The issue is not about "mad rich" people but about the middle class who have to work to get everything, while "weak and underprivileged" live in socialistic bliss - free or almost free housing, free or almost free utilities, food stamps, free internet (thank you Bill) and no will whatsoever to go out there and work.

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factual wrong, maybe you should stop repeating shit you hear from right wing propaganda, walmart alone blows this out of the water.

Walmart, just like McDonalds shouldn't be seen as a career move, but a stepping stool for future career.

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On transit issue, just to play devil's advocate and without any knowledge of the specific patterns in question that informed that particular decision, bike lanes aren't the kind of thing meant to serve their particular neighbourhood, they're meant to reduce traffic patterns across the entire city by encouraging safe bike transit along major routes; someone biking to work rather than driving is one less vehicle on the roads creating smog, is one less parking slot you need at the work end of things (at least), and so on. A bike lane project like that wouldn't help people in Queens directly, but it should end up reducing congestion a bit, which helps them indirectly.

There is no reason to play devil's advocate on that one.

It is all about de Blasio's EGO and legacy. Just like Vision Zero. He wants his name enshrined in the history of the city.

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Gee, you seem to care a lot about infrastructure, you know, for someone that doesn't care about it. Hmmm....

When you included infrastructure you were referring to this part, right?

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, as you may have heard, made the biggest mistake any elite leftist can. He admitted what he really believes. Lamenting the inability of his government to plan every aspect of real estate in New York City “to determine which building goes where, how high it will be, who gets to live in it, what the rent will be,” de Blasio identified property rights as the great obstacle to his ambitions. “What’s been hardest,” he said, “is the way our legal system is structured to favor private property.”

Thus my reply.

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The bike lane in Rego Park was stupid. It doesn't serve the residents and it was really just put there to allow people to bike into Manhattan. (Manhattan's interests trump that of Queens, color me surprised!)

The proposed changes to SHSAT likely won't get past the state legislature, albeit I am sympathetic towards the proposal to reserve some of the spots for low income kids who go through the Discovery program successfully.

Under that proposal the ratio of black and latino students would go up from 9% to 16% hardly what I would call a monumental shift.

It's also worth keeping in mind the Discovery program is just a second chance to improve your grades and not a free pass. But I do understand why opponents wish to keep the current admissions system. It is a fair system if you chose to disregard the fact that your parents income largely determines your educational attainment.

Still neither are signs of a socialist apocalypse.

No one was talking apocalypse. But we get these early signs and they worrisome. To me.

[SirKickBan]

“socialistic impulse” in communities of people seeking “things to be planned in accordance” to their needs.

..My god. It truly is the end of days.

[Mormolyce]

I'm not gonna lie, my eyes glazed over and I started drooling about 2 sentences in.

But eyes-glazed droolers are precisely its target demographic!

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Large part of America is fucking stupid.

"You must have at least this much cognitive dissonance to go on this ride".

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GIVE is the word Jesus used........ Socialism is TAKE from you BIG DIFFERENCE!

17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's. And they marvelled at him.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...12&version=KJV

Caesar was a taker.

[Klaiden Potugye]

..My god. It truly is the end of days.

De Blasio attributes this [radical] energy to a “socialistic impulse” in communities of people seeking “things to be planned in accordance” to their needs.

You can use full quotes.

When Bernie says something along these lines I believe him. I don't have to agree with his stance on many things, but...

But De Blasio is full of shit. Empty words and empty gestures.

[Stormspellz]

The "weak and unprivileged" are mostly protected in this capitalist capital of the world we call New York, if they give two shits about helping themselves.
The issue is not about "mad rich" people but about the middle class who have to work to get everything, while "weak and underprivileged" live in socialistic bliss - free or almost free housing, free or almost free utilities, food stamps, free internet (thank you Bill) and no will whatsoever to go out there and work.

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Walmart, just like McDonalds shouldn't be seen as a career move, but a stepping stool for future career.

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There is no reason to play devil's advocate on that one.

It is all about de Blasio's EGO and legacy. Just like Vision Zero. He wants his name enshrined in the history of the city.

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When you included infrastructure you were referring to this part, right?

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, as you may have heard, made the biggest mistake any elite leftist can. He admitted what he really believes. Lamenting the inability of his government to plan every aspect of real estate in New York City “to determine which building goes where, how high it will be, who gets to live in it, what the rent will be,” de Blasio identified property rights as the great obstacle to his ambitions. “What’s been hardest,” he said, “is the way our legal system is structured to favor private property.”

Thus my reply.

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No one was talking apocalypse. But we get these early signs and they worrisome. To me.

AND yet its a job that disproves your claim right off the bat.

[Spiffums]

And if the socialists simply asked? What then?

They can give theirs and therefore won't have to ask for mine.

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Yeah, cuz fuck reality, statistics and whatnot.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b00705db4d1364
https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc.../#6ee7a455720b
https://www.ibtimes.com/welfare-amer...stance-2300713
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/13/b...ce-anyway.html
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...y-already-work
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...aking-the-bank

All sites/papers with an agenda.

[Mihalik]

All sites/papers with an agenda.

Yes, Forbes, Ibtimes and Bloomberg, bastions of socialism. Dude, you can deny reality as much as you want, but reality stays...you know...real.

[Kronik85]

They can give theirs and therefore won't have to ask for mine.

So you're saying that when people ask you to give them your shit, you're answer is to jedi mind trick them into giving you theirs? I'm not sure you english so good or understand the question.

[predasmoke3]

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, as you may have heard, made the biggest mistake any elite leftist can. He admitted what he really believes. Lamenting the inability of his government to plan every aspect of real estate in New York City “to determine which building goes where, how high it will be, who gets to live in it, what the rent will be,” de Blasio identified property rights as the great obstacle to his ambitions. “What’s been hardest,” he said, “is the way our legal system is structured to favor private property.” His comments have attracted a wide range of criticism.



There is an impulse, but it is not socialistic. It is tyrannical, and it is not new. This tyrannical impulse lives within all of us. The desire to set ourselves apart and write special rules for others is the dark side of human nature. It is that immutable impulse, which ever leads men and nations toward ruin, that our Founding Fathers set out to harness and neutralize with the Constitution. They knew no power on earth could turn people into angels. So they consciously devised a political system of divided government and dispersed powers, and cultivated an economic system of free market capitalism, anchored in equal individual property rights.

De Blasio is absolutely right that the great threat to his ideological goals are private property and the rule of law that protects it. What really frustrates him is that in America, everyone else enjoys the same rights he does. That is the real story about the lament of the New York City mayor, and the reason that boomlet socialism is enjoying a surge on the left.

Despite what “fake news” tells you, there is nothing populist about socialism. It has never empowered the “little guy.” In socialist systems, the little guy always ends up in bread lines or behind bars. Nor does it, as conservatives sometimes charge, mire everyone in equal misery. On the contrary, in socialist countries, the wealthy and the connected always make out like bandits. Literally. That is why, throughout history, it is always elites like de Blasio, O’Rourke, Ocasio Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, along with their allies in academia, entertainment industry, and the mainstream media, who lead the charge to push forward this disgraced ideology.

If and when the revolution comes, they expect to be the ones calling the shots. They think they deserve to wield that power over the rest of us deplorables, bitterly clinging to the wrong side of history. Such self satisfied and power hungry elites are exactly the kind of people our Constitution set up to thwart. The frustration expressed by de Blasio is a positive outcome of that system, one we should all be eager to protect.

Source: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...de-for-america


True. Just look at Russia and other 14 independent nations.

Really missed the part where he said he's mad that everyone else is enjoying life as much as he is?

No one who knows what they're talking about cites the news for information regarding political systems.

The dark desire to set ourselves apart and tell others how to live? Sounds like an uncle i have, named Sam.

You're making a fool of yourself by acting like the news is the forum upon which your critics receive their information. Also, if you reference Russia as a socialist state and equate that to what people mean when they say that, then you are a fool and you probably shouldn't be given any power in deciding what happens either. Pick up a book you half-wit.

[Orbitus]

All sites/papers with an agenda.

No, just sites you can't refute because they are speaking the truth. Amazing, huh?

[Wyrt]

Maybe when a good portion of the US screeches "SOCIALISM" at basic things like universal healthcare that leads people to start thinking, "hey, maybe socialism isn't so bad after all."

So, congrats conservatives, you played yourselves.